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I really haven't wanted to admit this, but I think I'm a fanboy of AMD.  Recently I ordered a VEGA 64, I own ryzen and had a bulldozer processor. I actually built someone a FX9590/RX480 PC last year and often find myself recommending AMD products. Okay, it's not exactly AMD, more I like the underdog, the David to your Goliath, the small fry. 

 

Anyway, I want to hear about your guy's stories of brand loyalty and why you are loyal to said brand.

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I am loyal to no brand. I buy what is the best product at the time of purchase. Currently I am on the ryzen + pascal side of things. I disagree with the way intel has gone recently with regards to dishing out incremental upgrades and ryzen was more suitable for my use case. I chose pascal as I disagree with the way AMD handled the rebate thing, and the vega cards were hella expensive for a founders/frontier card at the time I needed a GPU.

 

If I have had good experience with a brand in the past, I am likely to look at their offerings first. But unless I am in a real rush I will at least look at the competition, and often do a fair amount of comparison, before choosing the product that best fits my needs. 

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There's a difference between liking a brand and being a fanboy. Fanboys defend their favourite brand beyond the point where it is reasonable and contest irrefutable facts when they don't suit them. Bulldozer was flawed, that doesn't mean you need to be a fanboy to still buy it - as long as you don't lie to anyone else about what they'd be getting.

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Brand loyalty is inherently a dumb thing (not calling anyone dumb btw), you should be buying the best thing you can afford and forcing yourself to stick to one brand is basically limiting your options for no good reason.

 

I've owned AMD CPUs (Athlon XP, Athlon 64), Intel CPUs (from the Core 2 line up to my 6700K), AMD GPUs and Nvidia GPUs. I always buy what is performing best at the time I buy using multiple different sources to formulate my opinion.

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2 minutes ago, Sauron said:

There's a difference between liking a brand and being a fanboy. Fanboys defend their favourite brand beyond the point where it is reasonable and contest irrefutable facts when they don't suit them. Bulldozer was flawed, that doesn't mean you need to be a fanboy to still buy it - as long as you don't lie to anyone else about what they'd be getting.

Fair points, the 9590 was £115 on sale so we the reason it was recommended. Bulldozers problem was AMD but their eggs in the wrong basket. They bet on more FP workloads being offloaded to GPUs and more parallelisation on the x86 side. That with the way Windows delegated tasks to the cores made it even worse. It acted as if each module was one core, when it was more like 1.5 cores per module. But definitely not two whole cores in many ways.

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i'm royal to some brands. gigabyte is one, western didital as well. reason is that their products always work for me and i have products made by them that are more than 10 years old and still work. 

 

i don't really care about the nvidia/amd debate, i'll just buy the best card i can afford for a particilar build. just as long it's a gigabyte card xD

 

intel vs amd is also not a thing for me. i think ryzen has bad single thread performance, and that's why i didn't choose it. i don't care about multicore. i have an 8-core dual xeon server for that  *insert sunglasses emoji*

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19 minutes ago, Ben Quigley said:

I really haven't wanted to admit this, but I think I'm a fanboy of AMD.  Recently I ordered a VEGA 64, I own ryzen and had a bulldozer processor. I actually built someone a FX9590/RX480 PC last year and often find myself recommending AMD products. Okay, it's not exactly AMD, more I like the underdog, the David to your Goliath, the small fry. 

 

Anyway, I want to hear about your guy's stories of brand loyalty and why you are loyal to said brand.

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i don't think you arre a fanboy aas well. there is a difference between being loyal to a brand and being a fanboy. 

 

being loyal to a brand is like me. i use products from certain brands because i have good experiences with them. 

 

being a fanboy is different. an example is someone i know, who recommends linux for gaming pc's... you can see the problem there, i don't have to go into it. 

fanboys don't care about facts. they tell everyone everything from the other company's terrible. 

 

in other words, i would consider you a fanboy if you said that intel and nvidia are awful no matter what they release. 

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1 minute ago, firelighter487 said:

i don't think you arre a fanboy aas well. there is a difference between being loyal to a brand and being a fanboy. 

 

being loyal to a brand is like me. i use products from certain brands because i have good experiences with them. 

 

being a fanboy is different. an example is someone i know, who recommends linux for gaming pc's... you can see the problem there, i don't have to go into it. 

fanboys don't care about facts. they tell everyone everything from the other company's terrible. 

 

in other words, i would consider you a fanboy if you said that intel and nvidia are awful no matter what they release. 

I'm more pissed off with Intel's business practices than their products. I own a GTX 980TI because it was on offer for £240 at the start is the year. Even though the FX was a shitty CPU I never had any issues with it. Nor with my athlon from back in the day which is why I stick with AMD. 

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I like AMD and my RX480, but I don't think I'll be getting another AMD card to upgrade this 480. Recently the drivers have been completely broken for me. I can't even change the temperature target without something going wrong. I'm not loyal to any brand, but I do tend to stick to ASUS for my motherboards. Always had good experiences.

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2 hours ago, Ben Quigley said:

I'm more pissed off with Intel's business practices than their products. I own a GTX 980TI because it was on offer for £240 at the start is the year. Even though the FX was a shitty CPU I never had any issues with it. Nor with my athlon from back in the day which is why I stick with AMD. 

i don't care about that. if i can get better performance for my workloads for less money i will buy whatever is available. 

 

i also don't like Microsoft's business strategies, but switching to Linux and losing 95% of all my games... no way. 

 

2 hours ago, Connor Price said:

I like AMD and my RX480, but I don't think I'll be getting another AMD card to upgrade this 480. Recently the drivers have been completely broken for me. I can't even change the temperature target without something going wrong. I'm not loyal to any brand, but I do tend to stick to ASUS for my motherboards. Always had good experiences.

try DDU and reinstalling them. i had this issue on an rx460 a while back. 

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Just now, firelighter487 said:

try DDU and reinstalling them. i had this issue on an rx460 a while back. 

Have done about 4 times now. I have to DDU and re-install every now and again because my games just start crashing with DX11 errors and my Radeon settings just stop working. Overclocking / undervolting tends to break everything for some reason.

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3 minutes ago, Connor Price said:

Have done about 4 times now. I have to DDU and re-install every now and again because my games just start crashing with DX11 errors and my Radeon settings just stop working. Overclocking / undervolting tends to break everything for some reason.

reinstall Windows then.. if that's an option. 

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reinstall Windows then.. if that's an option. 

This was going to me my advice. There are no issues with the Radeon drivers to my knowledge in regards to the RX 480. Most probably a dodgy install, software compatibility issue or maybe even a registry error. 

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5 minutes ago, Ben Quigley said:

This was going to me my advice. There are no issues with the Radeon drivers to my knowledge in regards to the RX 480. Most probably a dodgy install, software compatibility issue or maybe even a registry error. 

that's what i'm thinking as well. the radeon drivers mess up sometimes, but DDU and a reinstall usually fixes it for me. 

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9 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

reinstall Windows then.. if that's an option. 

Reinstalling is an option, just one I'd rather not do. I did upgrade to coffee lake without a clean install, but I'd been having these issues long before that.

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2 minutes ago, Connor Price said:

Reinstalling is an option, just one I'd rather not do. I did upgrade to coffee lake without a clean install, but I'd been having these issues long before that.

maybe it's an overclock you have on... 

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maybe it's an overclock you have on... 

Tweaking is the main issue I'm facing, I guess it's just my 480 is a bit dodgy. Leave it stock, and I have no issues except it being loud as hell. If I undervolt and increase the temp target, after a while I'll start getting issues.

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i just stay away from TP Link and ASUS. not touching either of those brands again. if i "fanboy" about any brand that would probably be ASRock seeing as they have been a company i have had a really good experience with, but they just seem like the best option objectively in a LOT of cases.

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1 hour ago, Ben Quigley said:

I actually built someone a FX9590/RX480 PC last year

A minute of silence for the money wasting.

 

Seriously though there is nothing wrong having preference for a brand, just don't get a shitty product solely because of it.

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10 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

A minute of silence for the money wasting.

 

Seriously though there is nothing wrong having preference for a brand, just don't get a shitty product solely because of it.

The 9590 was £115 so no money wasted. It's fairly decent for the price. 

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Just now, Ben Quigley said:

The 9590 was £115 so no money wasted. It's fairly decent for the price. 

not really... 70 dollars g4560 outperforms it without breaking the bank on power bills but that is down to personal taste I suppose :P

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2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

not really... 70 dollars g4560 outperforms it without breaking the bank on power bills but that is down to personal taste I suppose :P

The G4560 wasn't out when it was built...

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3 minutes ago, Ben Quigley said:

The 9590 was £115 so no money wasted. It's fairly decent for the price. 

not really for gaming... pretty craptastic single thread performance. 

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