HP Envy X360 Ryzen+Vega can be ordered (updated)

[NumLock21]

From HP's site. Specs has been updated and it supports up to 16GB of ram, not 8GB from the info we've heard not too long ago. There isn't much that can be changed in term of components, just your OS and storage drives. Screen is limited to 1080P, no option for 4K, but you can opt for Windows 10 Pro for a extra charge.

Ship date is November 23, 2017.

Stock configuration starts out at $735 USD.

http://store.hp.com/us/en/ConfigureView?catalogId=10051&langId=-1&storeId=10151&urlLangId=&catEntryId=3074457345618626318&quantity=1

[The Benjamins]

I like the starting price, but hate you can get it in a sata SSD. But nothing a DIY upgrade can't fix. I would also love to see a 2700u option.

[GDRRiley]

looks to be good for the money now time for the reviews. 

[dizmo]

28 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

I like the starting price, but hate you can get it in a sata SSD. But nothing a DIY upgrade can't fix. I would also love to see a 2700u option.

Yeah, heaven forbid should you get it with an SSD that most people need, not the one where it's performance increase is neigh unrecognizable in day to day use.

[The Benjamins]

5 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Yeah, heaven forbid should you get it with an SSD that most people need, not the one where it's performance increase is neigh unrecognizable in day to day use.

I honestly think OEMs use HDD to have the bigger number, 1TB vs 256GB, and that they want you to pay more to make the PC feel faster. I hate that cheap PCs don't have SSD even though they could.

[dizmo]

3 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

I honestly think OEMs use HDD to have the bigger number, 1TB vs 256GB, and that they want you to pay more to make the PC feel faster. I hate that cheap PCs don't have SSD even though they could.

That's totally why. I think it comes down to users of cheaper units generally needing to get more out of them. Where we might see this as an addition to a desktop, a lot of people buying them use it as their sole PC.

 

I don't think an NVME drive belongs in a product at this price point, in this category though. It's a bit of a waste.

 

At least their prices for drive upgrades aren't as greedy as Lenovos.

[ashypanda]

2 hours ago, The Benjamins said:

I honestly think OEMs use HDD to have the bigger number, 1TB vs 256GB, and that they want you to pay more to make the PC feel faster. I hate that cheap PCs don't have SSD even though they could.

cheap computers don't even have HDDs, they have shitty slow AF eMMC storage, i'd rather have a 1tb 5400 drive than eMMC.

[AlTech]

Why is this in newsworthy?

 

I thought by the title that you meant it had a 2500U or 2700U + Radeon Pro VEGA. That would have been very newsworthy as Apple is AMD only customer using Radeon Pro VEGA in the upcoming iMac Pro.

[Bananasplit_00]

Funny how you can get a €100 rebate on some Adobe software, by paying HP $200 

[Agosto]

And as always, these products never reach the other side of the Atlantic. Yay.

[Trixanity]

7 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

Why is this in newsworthy?

 

I thought by the title that you meant it had a 2500U or 2700U + Radeon Pro VEGA. That would have been very newsworthy as Apple is AMD only customer using Radeon Pro VEGA in the upcoming iMac Pro.

Because a lot of people want to get their hands on a laptop with AMD inside and availability is a big question mark. There's only three devices announced so far and this appears to be the first one to come to market.

 

Without trying to sound too snide, I find it more newsworthy than a lot of the minor Microsoft stuff you post about but that's of course a personal opinion.

3 hours ago, Agost said:

And as always, these products never reach the other side of the Atlantic. Yay.

I think it'll come eventually. We do get overlooked a lot and do get the higher price tags for the same or worse product but I think we'll get a few SKUs on the market before Christmas.

[MoonSpot]

Though the 256GB SSD charge is more than I'd pay, I'm "alright" with the level of gouging HP has gone for there(:EDIT: WHOA, wait a minute; No I am not.  That's a lot!)  But $150 MORE for an additional 8GB of RAM to get upto 16GB is offensive.  If its soldered RAM, then I'm gonna hope for a better option.

[Doobeedoo]

Cool. I want to see more machines with this new APU definitely plan to snatch one next year. 

Also, would really like to see a 17" model, would be neat. 

[NumLock21]

12 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

Why is this in newsworthy?

 

I thought by the title that you meant it had a 2500U or 2700U + Radeon Pro VEGA. That would have been very newsworthy as Apple is AMD only customer using Radeon Pro VEGA in the upcoming iMac Pro.

It's a laptop not a desktop AIO like the iMac Pro.

 

5 hours ago, MoonSpot said:

Though the 256GB SSD charge is more than I'd pay, I'm "alright" with the level of gouging HP has gone for there(:EDIT: WHOA, wait a minute; No I am not.  That's a lot!)  But $150 MORE for an additional 8GB of RAM to get upto 16GB is offensive.  If its soldered RAM, then I'm gonna hope for a better option.

It's 2 sticks of DDR4 SO-DIMMS. If it was onboard they will say it, like their Intel model, which has 1 stick of DDR4 SO-DIMM and 4GB of onboard soldered ram. Now how easily accessible are the RAM on the Ryzen is another question. For the Intel model, opening up the bottom lid shows no ram. It's probably on the other side, which means removal of the entire motherboard.

 

It's now at $600

[AlTech]

Just now, NumLock21 said:

It's a laptop not a desktop AIO like the iMac Pro.

Yeah but Radeon Pro VEGA GPUs are Mobile GPUs.

[NumLock21]

1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

Yeah but Radeon Pro VEGA GPUs are Mobile GPUs.

The iMac Pro uses standard desktop components, not mobile parts.

[AlTech]

1 minute ago, NumLock21 said:

The iMac Pro uses standard desktop components, not mobile parts.

nope. GPU is still Mobile GPU just like every other iMac ever.

[NumLock21]

1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

nope. GPU is still Mobile GPU just like every other iMac ever.

Then Vega Pro is a different class of mobile gpu. No way they will let a sub $1K device have such a high-end component in it.

[NumLock21]

Detail specs for the VEGA mobile graphics

[RotoCoreOne]

kind of bs that the 8gb model is 2x4 and not 1x8

[thorhammerz]

4 hours ago, RotoCoreOne said:

kind of bs that the 8gb model is 2x4 and not 1x8

1. It's likely cheaper.
2. The majority of consumers they are selling to don't know (or more accurately, don't care) about the difference. Those who want every bit of raw, (semi-)mobile performance are more likely to buy laptops with discrete Nvidia GPUs anyways (in other words, not the market segment this product is being catered to).

That raises their profit margin; which is the primary concern of the company (especially in the PC building market where margins aren't high to begin with - labour costs add up).

 

[Taf the Ghost]

3 hours ago, RotoCoreOne said:

kind of bs that the 8gb model is 2x4 and not 1x8

For Ryzen, you want dual channel in most contexts. There's ways to get more out of a single stick of dual rank, but that takes some high-level fiddling. For the normal user, 2x 4 Gb of RAM is the better deal.

[Trixanity]

9 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

Detail specs for the VEGA mobile graphics

I would hope that memory bandwidth number is caused by the system being idle and therefore saving power because 12 GB/s is absolutely pitiful. The core clock would indicate it's either idling or throttling (likely the former).

[Okjoek]

Still using an HDD in a portable device in 2017- soon 2018. SMH.

[NumLock21]

9 hours ago, Trixanity said:

I would hope that memory bandwidth number is caused by the system being idle and therefore saving power because 12 GB/s is absolutely pitiful. The core clock would indicate it's either idling or throttling (likely the former).

Someone with a AMD video card can solve this mystery? My card is too old do to that can run this new AMD utility.

 

4 hours ago, Okjoek said:

Still using an HDD in a portable device in 2017- soon 2018. SMH.

It's cheaper this way and you can just add a m.2 ssd yourself.