So apparently, the Intel/Radeon marriage is a thing that's happening

[jasonc_01]

So I thought intel and AMD put this one to bed months ago with an emphatic NO! 

 

Well... Apparently not. Doing some morning reading on tech and came across this from the WSJ. 

 

There's not much meat in the article, but apparently the announcement is coming today. 

 

Quote

Rivals Intel and AMD Team Up on PC Chips to Battle Nvidia

New laptop-computer chip will combine an Intel processor and an AMD graphics unit

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/rivals-intel-and-amd-team-up-on-pc-chips-to-battle-nvidia-1509966064

 

Reuters is reporting the same in quoting WSJ as the source. 

 

Seem like an strange turn of events here with the ryzen mobile chips just launched what, a week ago? 

 

 

[Syntaxvgm]

8 minutes ago, Nicholatian said:

>to read the full story, subskribe.

 

stay classy, WSJ.

yah ffs it's pathetic. 

[Syntaxvgm]

Here's a non paywall article 

http://www.investopedia.com/news/intel-amd-team-first-time-80s-take-nvidia/

 

[cj09beira]

1 minute ago, Julian2000nl said:

Sometimes you have to team up with your enemy to battle a disease.

it still seems like a weird move from amd, especially because amd is releasing ryzen based apus very soon with great perf 

[Dabombinable]

AMD doesn't need to join Intel though.....unless there is some life left in Larabee?

[Syntaxvgm]

3 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

it still seems like a weird move from amd, especially because amd is releasing ryzen based apus very soon with great perf 

 

Just now, Dabombinable said:

AMD doesn't need to join Intel though.....

on the cpu side for mobile, they'll be clawing back as much market share as possible

Meanwhile, for the company that does have the market share, they can take a cut for the graphics. 

I think it's good move. Also it seems they are targeting ultrabook style stuff, which AMD may not compete with well? not sure. 

[cj09beira]

Just now, Syntaxvgm said:

 

on the cpu side for mobile, they'll be clawing back as much market share as possible

Meanwhile, for the company that does have the market share, they can take a cut for the graphics. 

I think it's good move. Also it seems they are targeting ultrabook style stuff, which AMD may not compete with well? not sure. 

its new apus are perfect for ultrabooks, the integrated gpu is as fast as the mx150 from nvidea and the cpu is also good, the only way this works is if its an even bigger apu, but then why not sell it themselves? (maybe lack of R&D money)

[cj09beira]

btw here is another article

https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/intel_is_reportedly_set_to_announce_new_mobile_chips_that_use_an_amd_graphics_component/1

[Princess Luna]

Nothing surprising, if there is more profit in working together than fighting each other it's only logical that they'd "team up".

[cj09beira]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Nothing surprising, if there is more profit in working together than fighting each other it's only logical that they'd "team up".

only if you ignore the history of intel doing everything they can to put amd out of the market with anti-consumer tactics, break of contract, bribes,etc,etc

[Princess Luna]

Just now, cj09beira said:

only if you ignore the history of intel doing everything they can to put amd out of the market with anti-consumer tactics, break of contract, bribes,etc,etc

Why you may ask... answer to that is simply "it was more profitable this way", nothing personal they'll just go with the flow for more money and for a change working together this time is the way to make sweet $$$

[MyName13]

Igpu was the only thing that would make ryzen APUs competitive, this makes no sense.

[tsk]

This makes sense for both Intel and AMD. Intel moves a much higher volume of laptops with dGPUs than AMD will for a long time. It's also a win for consumers, choose between intel+Nvidia, intel+amd and amd+amd. 

 

It's important to note that this is about putting dGPUs in laptops with Intel CPU's.  Would be nice if OP could clarify this. @jasonc_01

[Misanthrope]

Wait, why? Now that AMD actually might have a very competitive product with the Ryzen + Vega APUs for laptops, why now that those are officially announced? It anything it makes far less sense now.

 

This rumor needs to die already.

[cj09beira]

1 minute ago, Misanthrope said:

Wait, why? Now that AMD actually might have a very competitive product with the Ryzen + Vega APUs for laptops, why now that those are officially announced? It anything it makes far less sense now.

 

This rumor needs to die already.

the article on oc3d says that this is suppost to be a higher end gpu than on the apu, so it will not compete with it, but still weird 

[jasonc_01]

Just now, Misanthrope said:

Wait, why? Now that AMD actually might have a very competitive product with the Ryzen + Vega APUs for laptops, why now that those are officially announced? It anything it makes far less sense now.

 

This rumor needs to die already.

I think the only answer to why is that Radeon is a separate company from AMD while Il under the same umbrella. So the business of graphics chips is autonomous to AMD and vise versa. 

[Dylanc1500]

4 minutes ago, jasonc_01 said:

I think the only answer to why is that Radeon is a separate company from AMD while Il under the same umbrella. So the business of graphics chips is autonomous to AMD and vise versa. 

Radeon is not a separate company. Radeon is seperate division within the same company. it is not a subsidiary. Think of Intel CPUs and their storage division.

 

just wanted to give you a heads up!

[Trixanity]

Yeah, I'll wait for an official announcement.

 

Because it'd probably be the stupidest move AMD could possible make. They may as well pull out of the market and cancel Raven Ridge. Essentially they removed all reasons to buy AMD. 

 

Intel in the mobile space:

Faster CPU. Check.

Better IMC. Check.

Better chipset. Check.

Better developer support. Check.

Better eco system. Check.

Many long-term partnerships. Check.

Virtually a monopoly. Check.

Better GPU. Pending.

Better pricing. Not a chance.

[tsk]

29 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

it still seems like a weird move from amd, especially because amd is releasing ryzen based apus very soon with great perf 

 

21 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

its new apus are perfect for ultrabooks, the integrated gpu is as fast as the mx150 from nvidea and the cpu is also good, the only way this works is if its an even bigger apu, but then why not sell it themselves? (maybe lack of R&D money)

 

10 minutes ago, MyName13 said:

Igpu was the only thing that would make ryzen APUs competitive, this makes no sense.

 

8 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

Wait, why? Now that AMD actually might have a very competitive product with the Ryzen + Vega APUs for laptops, why now that those are officially announced? It anything it makes far less sense now.

 

This rumor needs to die already.

Again, this is not about putting Radeon graphics on an Intel chip, it's about combing Intel CPU's with AMD dGPUs like Intel and Nvidia is already doing. 

[FratStar]

36 minutes ago, Julian2000nl said:

Sometimes you have to team up with your enemy to battle a disease.

Well I never how can you be so rude! NVidia is no not just simple disease it's the plague /s.

 

You had me almost laughing out loud in the middle of work man.

 

OT: Interesting Intel and AMD totally both denied this viciously a month or two ago now its apparently happening. Why lie? Just own up to it if it leaked that early.

[DocSwag]

I... don't really trust this to be correct.

 

I remember a while back amd said they weren't pursuing any sort of thing with Intel.

[NumLock21]

What?

 

Like half of the people on this planet already has a config like this. I have one too, just look at my sig.

[JoostinOnline]

Given that NVIDIA recently hinted that they might get into the CPU market (at least that's how I took it), this isn't a total surprise.

[yian88]

If this means intel will remove their garbage iGPU from mid-high end CPU's and provide separate APU's like AMD then i welcome this partnership, otherwise no gtfo.

Last thing i want to see on the market is core i7/i9  6-8 cores with RX 560-580 inside of them costing 6-1000$ or some retarded frankenstein chip.

Anything above i3 should come without iGPU, maybe some lowpower locked i5's but nothing beyond that.

And hopefully all intel laptops will come with RX graphics with proper dedicated VRAM, processing units and drivers. You cant find a single decent intel cpu laptop with dedicated GPU at 4-500$ wtf.

[MageTank]

2 minutes ago, yian88 said:

If this means intel will remove their garbage iGPU from mid-high end CPU's and provide separate APU's like AMD then i welcome this partnership, otherwise no gtfo.

Last thing i want to see on the market is core i7/i9  6-8 cores with RX 560-580 inside of them costing 6-1000$ or some retarded frankenstein chip.

Anything above i3 should come without iGPU, maybe some lowpower locked i5's but nothing beyond that.

And hopefully all intel laptops will come with RX graphics with proper dedicated VRAM, processing units and drivers. You cant find a single decent intel cpu laptop with dedicated GPU at 4-500$ wtf.

I mean, you can, you just have to look for them. If you can afford $600, you can get a desktop 4 thread pentium G4560, a GTX 1050 Ti, and 8GB of ram with a 1080p IPS panel. If you already have a desktop Skylake/Kaby CPU, you can cut an extra $50 off that price. 

 

@ the topic at hand: Didn't we see a fabricated story recently where someone photoshopped "Vega inside" on a CFL box? What makes this rumor any different? It's just another unidentifiable source, from some random people, making the same random claim that's been made since March of this year. Intel denied it back in March, are we to believe they've changed their mind since then?