Need help in finding the perfect monitor for this setup

[Reiidar]

I made a post regarding my plans to build a new pc here.
Basically here are the specs. (It's more expensive than in the U.S. since there is a tariff on components)

Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 Mid Tower @ ₱3,700.00            

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.20-3.60Ghz 6-Core Processor   @ ₱11,040.00         

MOBO: Asus Prime B350 Plus @   ₱5,700.00            

GPU: Gigabyte GTX 1070 Aorus 8GB (GV-N1070AORUS-8GD) @  ₱26,000.00         

RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB 16gb 2x8GB 3200Mhz   @  ₱9,450.00            

HDD: Seagate Firecuda 2TB 7200rpm 64MB @ ₱5,650.00            

SSD: Crucial MX300 M.2 275gb (CT275MX300SSD4) @ ₱5,500.00            

PSU: Corsair HX750 750watts 80Plus Platinum Modular  @   ₱6,950.00            

OS: Microsoft Windows 10 HOME 64-bit oem  (License on hold so no cost for now)       

Monitor: TBD
Current total: ₱73,990.00 or ~$1480

*My budget should be around $1600-1650 but I might spend more depending on what you think is best.

What would be better. 1440p 60Hz or 1080p 144Hz, or should I just invest in a 4k monitor for longevity? To be clear I've never used a 144hz monitor nor a 1440p/4k display.

So here are the options I found so far (Based on availability and Price *converted from peso)

1. 32" Viewsonic 2560 x 1440 60Hz for around $335 
2. 27" AOC 1080p 144Hz for $345
3. 27" Viewsonic 1080p 144Hz with f-sync for $380
4. 27″ LG 27UD68 4K UHD IPS LED Monitor 60Hz hdmi dp Freesync for $550
5. Infini M7 27inch QHD 144hz Gaming Monitor for $308 (Yeah QHD AND 144Hz, sounds too good to be true I can't even find any data regarding the company but I'll put it here anyway)

To sum it up I have no clear idea what's the differences with these experiences since I've yet to try them. Though I will be the system mostly for gaming and some light to medium content creation in the future.
*Update: I've asked about the monitor (numbered 5) and according to them some have bought this monitor and claim it's worth the price with a 1 year warranty.

[Jurrunio]

What do you plan for the build to handle?

 

There's only green-label CX with CX600 name, and that's a bad PSU for your usage.

[Reiidar]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

What do you plan for the build to handle?

 

There's only green-label CX with CX600 name, and that's a bad PSU for your usage.

Thanks for pointing it out would a Corsair HX750 750watts 80Plus Platinum Modular be enough? I probably won't do heavy tasks, probably gaming at most. But I do want to have some potential for some content creation in the future. My main concern for now however would be choosing the best monitor for this setup.

[Jurrunio]

24 minutes ago, Reiidar said:

Thanks for pointing it out would a Corsair HX750 750watts 80Plus Platinum Modular be enough? I probably won't do heavy tasks, probably gaming at most. But I do want to have some potential for some content creation in the future. My main concern for now however would be choosing the best monitor for this setup.

It will work, but is overkill. 500w is already enough. CX600 is bad because of the quality of parts, not wattage.

 

What games do you play? Slower paced games are fine with 60Hz monitor, but competitive games like CS:GO are preferred to have high refresh rates. Your card cannot handle AAA games at 1440p at 144fps with high or even medium settings, so dont expect 4K gaming, not even at 60Hz.

 

Also make sure 1080p 27" screens look fine to you. To me they look grainy but others dont think so.I think it differs between people, so make sure you check for yourself first.

[Reiidar]

33 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

It will work, but is overkill. 500w is already enough. CX600 is bad because of the quality of parts, not wattage.

 

What games do you play? Slower paced games are fine with 60Hz monitor, but competitive games like CS:GO are preferred to have high refresh rates. Your card cannot handle AAA games at 1440p at 144fps with high or even medium settings, so dont expect 4K gaming, not even at 60Hz.

 

Also make sure 1080p 27" screens look fine to you. To me they look grainy but others dont think so.I think it differs between people, so make sure you check for yourself first.

I mostly play Dota 2 which is a fast paced game. I'm not really obsessed with maxing out games but I do want to play a modded Skyrim, Witcher 3, and GTA 5 on a reasonably pleasant experience. I actually multitask often I have a lot of windows open, lots of application, with that case a 1440p monitor would be better since I would have more room to work with right? Anyway I'd also like your opinion on this, is 144Hz really THAT big of an improvement?

[Jurrunio]

7 minutes ago, Reiidar said:

I mostly play Dota 2 which is a fast paced game. I'm not really obsessed with maxing out games but I do want to play a modded Skyrim, Witcher 3, and GTA 5 on a reasonably pleasant experience. I actually multitask often I have a lot of windows open, lots of application, with that case a 1440p monitor would be better since I would have more room to work with right? Anyway I'd also like your opinion on this, is 144Hz really THAT big of an improvement?

High settings in these games look decent enough, so your system should be able to handle them at 1440p.

 

Resolution doesnt affect desktop space. In fact things like the taskbar might get so small you have to enlarge it to see them better. Screen size is what affects working space. At 27" though 1440p and 1080p does look very different.

 

Yes it is a huge improvement. It's hard to say 60Hz is bad, but when you experienced 144Hz it's super hard to go back.

[Reiidar]

19 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

High settings in these games look decent enough, so your system should be able to handle them at 1440p.

 

Resolution doesnt affect desktop space. In fact things like the taskbar might get so small you have to enlarge it to see them better. Screen size is what affects working space. At 27" though 1440p and 1080p does look very different.

 

Yes it is a huge improvement. It's hard to say 60Hz is bad, but when you experienced 144Hz it's super hard to go back.

But gaming-wise won't there be a significant improvement in image quality from 1080p to 1440p that would make 60Hz at 1440p a better compromise? (I know this is subjective but I want to know the opinion of someone who've already experienced a 144Hz monitor.) Or would a smaller monitor (27" compared to 32") with 144Hz at 1080p run games better (fps and overall smoothness) then? For comparison my current monitor is 21.5" 60Hz 1080p.

[Jurrunio]

49 minutes ago, Reiidar said:

But gaming-wise won't there be a significant improvement in image quality from 1080p to 1440p that would make 60Hz at 1440p a better compromise? 

A better compromise compared to 1080p 144Hz I assume? Depends on situation, both can be significant upgrades.

 

You see, Dota 2 doesnt have much texture detail compared to graphically intensive games like Crysis 3 and GTA 5. In this situation, the smoother motion provided from increased refresh rate is more noticeable than increased video detail provided from higher resolution, and vice versa.

54 minutes ago, Reiidar said:

Or would a smaller monitor (27" compared to 32") with 144Hz at 1080p run games better (fps and overall smoothness) then? For comparison my current monitor is 21.5" 60Hz 1080p.

32" 1080p panel as PC screen will look terrible.

 

Screen size doesnt affect game performance when resolution is constant. To your PC it's the same workload, just the monitor that puts the pixels further apart to make the screen larger.

[Reiidar]

32 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

A better compromise compared to 1080p 144Hz I assume? Depends on situation, both can be significant upgrades.

 

You see, Dota 2 doesnt have much texture detail compared to graphically intensive games like Crysis 3 and GTA 5. In this situation, the smoother motion provided from increased refresh rate is more noticeable than increased video detail provided from higher resolution, and vice versa.

32" 1080p panel as PC screen will look terrible.

 

Screen size doesnt affect game performance when resolution is constant. To your PC it's the same workload, just the monitor that puts the pixels further apart to make the screen larger.

Since I do play Dota 2 more often than other titles, 144Hz would be much more appreciated since it would be far more noticeable. At the same time, future titles that would be more demanding for high resolution monitor would require less GPU power since there would be less pixels with the 1080p monitor. So with my case a 144Hz monitor would be a better upgrade. With this in mind are there any other problems with the tentative build (I like to keep the cost as low as possible without having a bottle neck):
 

1.       Corsair Vengeance RGB 16gb 2x8GB 3200Mhz  ₱9,450.00

2.       Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 Mid Tower           ₱3,700.00      (Only decent ATX case available)       

3.       AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.20-3.60Ghz 6-Core Processor           ₱11,040.00         

4.       Asus Prime B350 Plus     ₱5,700.00            

5.       Gigabyte GTX 1070 Aorus 8GB   ₱26,000.00         

6.       Seagate Firecuda 2TB 7200rpm 64MB     ₱5,650.00            

7.       Crucial MX300 M.2 275gb     ₱5,500.00            

8.       Corsair RM650x 80+ Gold Full Modular Power Supply      ₱5,850.00 *Changed to a lower wattage but still 80+ Gold to ensure quality.            

9.       AOC G2770PF 27" 144Hz LED Gaming Monitor    ₱17,800.00         

₱90,690.00 or ~$1800

[Jurrunio]

Dont get SSHD. It's expensive for 2TB space and the 8GB cache is too small to make the benefit worth the cost. If you really want SSHD for whatever reason, WD Blacks with 120GB cache is what you should go for.

[GrindyGamer]

This monitor is 1440p ips freesync and 144hz so you don't have to choose and it cost 350$ ( 50$ discount from 400$ using this code  PX277$50OFF )

https://www.buypixio.com/collections/monitors/products/new-px277

[Reiidar]

3 hours ago, GrindyGamer said:

This monitor is 1440p ips freesync and 144hz so you don't have to choose and it cost 350$ ( 50$ discount from 400$ using this code  PX277$50OFF )

https://www.buypixio.com/collections/monitors/products/new-px277

Shipping components here have a "untrustworthy" reputation due to the customs. I'm not in a hurry so I could wait for this particular monitor.

 

7 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Dont get SSHD. It's expensive for 2TB space and the 8GB cache is too small to make the benefit worth the cost. If you really want SSHD for whatever reason, WD Blacks with 120GB cache is what you should go for.

I'm looking for a storage option for games and other files in the future that perform reasonably well, what kind of drives should I get then? tbh even 1TB for now is more than enough.

[GrindyGamer]

4 minutes ago, Reiidar said:

Shipping components here have a "untrustworthy" reputation due to the customs. I'm not in a hurry so I could wait for this particular monitor.

not sure what you mean. but keep in mind pixio doesn't sell through amazon newegg or any other re seller. so shipping will always be from pixio themselves even if you buy it from a re seller. and the 50$ off is only for pre orders. so just keep that in mind. gl.  

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, Reiidar said:

I'm looking for a storage option for games and other files in the future that perform reasonably well, what kind of drives should I get then? tbh even 1TB for now is more than enough.

A typical hard drive will do. WD Blue are the most common, but HDDs arent high tech stuff so those from Toshiba or Hitachi are also fine. I dont recommend Seagate though, I lost enough drives from them.

[Reiidar]

12 hours ago, GrindyGamer said:

not sure what you mean. but keep in mind pixio doesn't sell through amazon newegg or any other re seller. so shipping will always be from pixio themselves even if you buy it from a re seller. and the 50$ off is only for pre orders. so just keep that in mind. gl.  

There have been cases where shipments are mishandled (therefore breaking the product). Or being opened and swapped with either a knock-off or just plain stolen. Though my experience with ordering clothes and lately, a razer keyboard went well. I don't have the faith to order something as expensive as PC components.

[Verrm]

Hey there! I want to build a similar rig ( also ryzen1600 and 1070) and here is what I got on my list and why:

1. Ryzen 1600 with stock cooler because it provides enough cooling

2. Msi tomahawk b350 mobo because of its voltage stability when overclocking

3. Evga supernova g2 PSU for quality (please consider that higher 80+ efficiency rating does NOT mean that it is higher quality)

4. 3000mhz cl14 corsair vengeance ddr4 ram because timings on ram matter for Ryzen as much as frequency (which is surprisingly uncommon knowledge)

5. Lg 29'' 1080p widescreen ips freesync monitor lg29um68-p because I want ips panel and flicker free widescreen. I play at 60hz atm and it is awesome even in counter strike. I just dont play competetively so i dont need 120+hz. Widescreens are awesome and ips are great so consider those unless you have very small desk.

6. Get cheap hdd like wd blue 7200rpm. You will not notice any difference at all.

7. If you want it for esthetics it is actually OK to get sata3 ssd instead of nvme ssd. Just because most applications and especially games just do not care what ssd you use. NVME in reality is much better only on paper. Nevertheless go for nvme if m.2 drives look OK to you or you dont care.

 

Hope this helped!

[Reiidar]

19 hours ago, Verrm said:

Hey there! I want to build a similar rig ( also ryzen1600 and 1070) and here is what I got on my list and why:

1. Ryzen 1600 with stock cooler because it provides enough cooling

2. Msi tomahawk b350 mobo because of its voltage stability when overclocking

3. Evga supernova g2 PSU for quality (please consider that higher 80+ efficiency rating does NOT mean that it is higher quality)

4. 3000mhz cl14 corsair vengeance ddr4 ram because timings on ram matter for Ryzen as much as frequency (which is surprisingly uncommon knowledge)

5. Lg 29'' 1080p widescreen ips freesync monitor lg29um68-p because I want ips panel and flicker free widescreen. I play at 60hz atm and it is awesome even in counter strike. I just dont play competetively so i dont need 120+hz. Widescreens are awesome and ips are great so consider those unless you have very small desk.

6. Get cheap hdd like wd blue 7200rpm. You will not notice any difference at all.

7. If you want it for esthetics it is actually OK to get sata3 ssd instead of nvme ssd. Just because most applications and especially games just do not care what ssd you use. NVME in reality is much better only on paper. Nevertheless go for nvme if m.2 drives look OK to you or you dont care.

 

Hope this helped!

point 6. That's a nice thing to point out, basically the performance to price ratio is not enough to justify the more expensive price.
point 7. The ssd available with the nearest retailer here have a 256GB SSD for ~10-15$ the nvme has 275GB and since it's a big leap from 256 to 512 I decided that this would be more cost effective since I don't need much space.
Note: After talking over with other people irl, some components (ram, mobo(not rgb though only red), gpu) listed in my tentative build are RGB, If I would swap it out with non-rgb parts I would probably save around $50-$80. But then again, If you're spending this much money already on a system, an extra $50 to make it look much more presentable and "gamer-y". Isn't too bad in my opinion. Anyways, this helped a lot thanks.

[Verrm]

Np mate, because of the looks i considered parts 300$ more expensive but I told myself that being honest with myself I would be happy for much longer if I spend it on better parts. I plan to get Fractal Design Define S case for sleek closed look that wont look outdated in 5 years and get parts that would perform good in 5 years good luck with your choices!

 

Edit: oh, and Im just too lazy to clean often to get meshed cases with big windows