Google Ditching a Planned Walking Calorie Counter in Google Maps Because of... Shaming?

[Prysin]

11 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

. I also don't get why Google is going to ditch it,

Google "James Damore"

[Deli]

Walking doesn't burn much calories. It's better than nothing. But please do some real exercise like running and fast cycling.

 

If people think because they walk half an hour or one hour a day, that gives them the right to eat an extra burger. Think again.

[S w a t s o n]

12 minutes ago, Deli said:

Walking doesn't burn much calories. It's better than nothing. But please do some real exercise like running and fast cycling.

 

If people think because they walk half an hour or one hour a day, that gives them the right to eat an extra burger. Think again.

Well the nice thing about this is it would tell you approximately (based on average calculations) how much that walk would burn. Instead of assuming you burned 200 calories you would realize you only burned like 50.

[manikyath]

so.. i'd be against this feature, not because it "shames" people, but because it takes up space on screen for something i absolutely dont give a shit about. if you wanna lose some weight, get a job in IT, drive to work, and wire up an office.

[MyName13]

18 minutes ago, manikyath said:

. if you wanna lose some weight, get a job in IT, drive to work, and wire up an office.

This is totally true, you can also live forever by drinking lava

[Kobathor]

This triggers me because it doesn't display the energy burned in joules and I identify with joulism. KCALS ARE THE ENEMY!

[AresKrieger]

Why would it take 12 minutes to walk a little over half a mile, that is incredibly slow even for a fat person (such as myself) a full mile shouldn't take more than 15 minutes to walk, assuming the person isn't limping or something.

[mr moose]

2 hours ago, xtroria said:

It's simple human psychology. We are very objectively driven and we like to see a short term goal / checkpoint over the long term one.

 

Call it stupid of w/e but its been proven to work

This is absolutely accurate,  I use this techniques when dealing with angry narcissistic bosses,  You just tell them what they already know/think they know is the problem and tell them you have it covered and the issue will be resolved before it gets worse.  They receive instant goal achieval  and self gratification and you got all day to fix the issue without an angry boss carrying on like a disjointed bull with a broken ass.

 

[Crossbred]

There’s a massive difference between mocking someone’s shortcomings and trying to help them. Yes, I am saying that fitness problems including eating disorders are usually due to personal failures of individuals to take care of themselves instead of a condition from genetic or similar exposure. After having gone through an overweight period in my life and since improved my body to become very healthy I can honestly say that for me fitness is a state of mind. Sure, I have a history of obesity in my family but it doesn’t make a difference in my ability to take care of myself. 

So yeah, having the mindset of ”Since you’re not me you can’t suggest that I change myself” is unhealthy in my opinion.

Its sad to me that google succumbed to this strange opinion on caloric information.

[Dabombinable]

Another confirmation of Google being out of touch with reality.....

[Morgan Everett]

A simple solution would have been to make it optional, and an opt-in.

[PopReference]

3 hours ago, Prysin said:

Google "James Damore"

Probably don't use Google though, use a third party search engine at least. DuckDuckGo works good.

[captain_to_fire]

10 hours ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

Personally, it seems a little stupid that people were getting all riled up at this. Honestly I think this would've been a neat feature. But that's just me; what do you think about it?

Oh boy! I just love railing against social justice warriors!

 

First of all I do not condone body shaming or ridiculing anyone based on body type or the kind of clothes they're wearing. I always believe that if you have nothing nice to say to someone, you might as well shut up. But this? It's actually very helpful for people who want to change themselves. America and many countries have an obesity epidemic and it is not something to be taken lightly. I actually appreciate tech companies doing their part in helping people become healthy. But this chick named Taylor Lorenz that Google is body shaming people and that the pink cupcake is targeted towards women? The fuck! 

 

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Edited October 19, 2017 by SansVarnic

[Inkz]

Not to just jump on the hate train, but let's look at this objectively.  Google adds health feature to help people loose weight and better track themselves. Response: Because it shows you the health data people feel uncomfortable.   Shouldn't by that logic we should ban exercise equipment and calorie counts on food because people feel shamed by it? How can anyone try and improve their health if we ban ways to help them?

[Guest]

6 hours ago, suicidalfranco said:

fat shaming works. Deal with it.

Not really, sends fat people further down the spiral most likely actually. 

 

Fatshaming isn't going to help one iota, it's mostly an excuse for pieces of shit to be rude to fat people. Are you one of those jerks? If so they have a nice sociopathic community over at Voat. 

 

That being said I think this is ridiculous of course, kcal counting is always useful and they shouldn't somehow be offended by it, I don't even know why anybody would. I would actually like this, Google Fit doesn't always work well so maybe Maps could have been used for comparison and more accuracy, oh well.... 

[Guest]

6 hours ago, wcreek said:

 

 

But I mean hey Google, doesn't have a dedicated health app. 

They do actually, Google Fit, I use it. 

[BPK]

I think this could be a decent optional feature. If it were off by default, and just available for people who like the novelty of it, why not?

[MrRavens]

2 hours ago, Inkz said:

Not to just jump on the hate train, but let's look at this objectively.  Google adds health feature to help people loose weight and better track themselves. Response: Because it shows you the health data people feel unfortable.   Shouldn't by that logic we should ban exercise equipment and calorie counts on food because people feel shamed by it? How can anyone try and improve their health if we ban ways to help them?

 

I hear you, and I think that is a part of the problem. (Again just an opinion so don't eat me alive. Q_Q) It's mostly a self inflicted issue. In the sense of, seeing a piece of data that is neither negative or positive. It just tells you roughly what you might burn or have burned. Then taking it negatively because you feel bad about yourself. Taking that personal issue and pushing it on everything and everyone else to meet your own condition. I'm not trying to be mean or anything since the person feels bad, I just feel they're being unreasonable for everyone else. Sorta selfish if I want to be blunt. I agree in making it an option, not only to clear clutter on screen, but for the many ppl that count calories in the active scene (which is big) that plan a lot of walks or bike rides etc. Honestly at the end of the day, this isn't such a big issue in the grand scheme of things. So if it's in or not, whatever. But to not have it "because" someone feels bad is not really the best reason.  Honestly I can't blame them for just avoiding this situation, since we know the hell fire that can come from these discussions.  Again, my opinions. Be gentle with me lol. *runs away to do night shift*

[ARikozuM]

I wouldn't mind. The Apple Watch keeps track of all that stuff for me. It's great (except for the heat and sun) when I do my lunch run (.25 miles) to get food and then walk back. 

[Drak3]

6 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

The Apple Watch keeps track of all that stuff for me.

Traitor! Bad Neko-kun! Bad!

 

7 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

when I do my lunch run (.25 miles) to get food and then walk back.

[SansVarnic]

- Thread Cleaned -

 

Leave the politics at the door. 

Only warning.

[Prysin]

5 hours ago, PopReference said:

Probably don't use Google though, use a third party search engine at least. DuckDuckGo works good.

Actually. Use YouTube. He gave live interviews with StefanMolyneux and Rubin Report

[S w a t s o n]

Ok, screw all these people that use the word triggered seriously, no matter which walk of life they come from

[S w a t s o n]

I can express that I find the use of the word triggered to be dumb, I have that much freedom of speech even on here.

[NoRomanBatmansAllowed]

11 hours ago, wcreek said:

But I mean hey Google, doesn't have a dedicated health app

I think they do...

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.fitness&hl=en