The old 2600K vs Newest CPU question

[xsimplyjosh]

On 10/19/2017 at 12:22 AM, Majorpayne said:

Well, I know i don't need m.2, RGB (meh), USB 3 I have USB just not C or 3.1 but nothing in the house uses it yet. I guess my 6 Year old Processor and Mobo are just going to kick back and enjoy more of the ride. I can't see any other reason then

 

M.2 is still kinda pricey for most people. I just bought it because i wanted a SSD upgrade and i had a m.2 slot so i felt like omg go for it.

 

USB-C 3.1 is still relatively new. I think 3.0 is still fine as of today, the only time I'd find 3.1 useful is for stuff like transfering huge chunks of GB files [eg 4k videos and the like]. I am missing out on usb-c but i still feel we are still okay with 3.0 speeds.

 

your processor should be fine. unless you're hitting some kind of bottleneck on Game/Production? You should be fine. if no bottlenecking/cap occurs in your daily use. In fact by changing your processor, you'll need to consider new Ram [ddr4 vs ddr3] and a new mobo with the chipset [z370 vs... what was 2600k's chpset?] and that alone can set back maybe 1100aud+ or so. 200aud ram 600aud 8700k , 200-500aud mobo depending on your needs. so yea, you can have as low as 1k [asus prime as an example] or high as 1.3k [maximus X hero] just for those 3 components alone] with the

[Lathlaer]

Just for reference, see also this article by GN:

 

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2867-intel-i7-2600k-2017-benchmark-vs-7700k-1700-more/page-3

 

Add few % to 7700k to extrapolate 8700k from that.

[79wjd]

7 hours ago, MyName13 said:

And i7 8700k still doesn't perform better than i7 7700k even though consoles have 6-7 cores, I wonder why.Maybe because these jaguar CPUs are too weak and any multi core optimisation is pointless for PC gamers that have at least a quad core nehalem (a 2008 architecture)?

No. The reason is that it's hard to multithread some tasks and isn't worth the time that would need to be spent. Not to mention the fact that a 7700k is technically 8 threads, which does make it similar to a 6-7 core cpu. Game developers optimize for something that is very common -- it would be stupid for them to optimize for a 6c/12t cpu when <1% of users have such a configuration. Not to mention that CPUs still aren't the limiting factor -- so what would be gained by all that effort and optimization? Literally nothing since the GPU still ends up being the problem.

[MyName13]

2 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

No. The reason is that it's hard to multithread some tasks and isn't worth the time that would need to be spent. Not to mention the fact that a 7700k is technically 8 threads, which does make it similar to a 6-7 core cpu. Game developers optimize for something that is very common -- it would be stupid for them to optimize for a 6c/12t cpu when <1% of users have such a configuration. Not to mention that CPUs still aren't the limiting factor -- so what would be gained by all that effort and optimization? Literally nothing since the GPU still ends up being the problem.

My point is that video games are obviously not that well parallelised, you said that consoles are responsible for better multi core optimisation (which is why quad and hexa i7s perform the same).There's no point of parallelisation because all that processing power can't be used for the current workload, it could be used for better physics and AI but in that case consoles would have to have a dumber down version, no developer wants to bother with this.