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Posted · Original PosterOP

I am stuck between Intel and Ryzen. And to make it worse, I don't know which gen/company would benefit me more. 

 

I just need a CPU that will go well with my GTX Gigabyte 1060GB and will fulfill my needs, on top of lasting me around 2-3 years.

 

I do like to game a lot, whether it is games like Destiny 2 or Terraria. I usually play in 720p due to my monitor Resolution. Certain games don't look that good in 1080. Either that or I just need to get used to it. However I also like to listen to music or leave Google Chrome open just to view/listen to streams and play certain games with Discord in the back. 

 

I currently have a AMD Athlon 860K since I only recently upgraded my GPU and that clearly bottlenecks my 1060 + High load percentages + High temperatures (That may just me using the stock cooler( I do have a Corsair 400C Case which has very good airflow))  

 

I will also be going to Uni to study Computer Science next year so I might be using coding programs and JDKs here and there so I want to make sure it doesnt overload or anything like that.

 

Also, with your answer, if you wouldn't mind taking a few extra minutes, it would be really helpful to know which kind of motherboard would be best to go with your choice. 

 

Thank you in advance :) 

 

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1 minute ago, Nesquikpowder said:

I am stuck between Intel and Ryzen. And to make it worse, I don't know which gen/company would benefit me more. 

 

I just need a CPU that will go well with my GTX Gigabyte 1060GB and will fulfill my needs, on top of lasting me around 2-3 years.

 

I do like to game a lot, whether it is games like Destiny 2 or Terraria. I usually play in 720p due to my monitor Resolution. Certain games don't look that good in 1080. Either that or I just need to get used to it. However I also like to listen to music or leave Google Chrome open just to view/listen to streams and play certain games with Discord in the back. 

 

I currently have a AMD Athlon 860K since I only recently upgraded my GPU and that clearly bottlenecks my 1060 + High load percentages + High temperatures (That may just me using the stock cooler( I do have a Corsair 400C Case which has very good airflow))  

 

I will also be going to Uni to study Computer Science next year so I might be using coding programs and JDKs here and there so I want to make sure it doesnt overload or anything like that.

 

Also, with your answer, if you wouldn't mind taking a few extra minutes, it would be really helpful to know which kind of motherboard would be best to go with your choice. 

 

Thank you in advance :) 

 

Intel has faster processors, but Ryzen keeps up. For Intel in the future you'll need a new motherboard and Ryzen is supported until 2020, so the choice is yours.


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1 minute ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

Intel has faster processors, but Ryzen keeps up. For Intel in the future you'll need a new motherboard and Ryzen is supported until 2020, so the choice is yours.

I see that you are using the Ryzen 1800x. How is that treating you? 

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Just now, Nesquikpowder said:

I see that you are using the Ryzen 1800x. How is that treating you? 

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I will say a 6 core i5. However, 6c12t i7, r5 1600 and r7 1700, all of them are great CPUs. The choice is yours.


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Ryzen 5 1600 is good for the 1060 6GB. Plus you save loads on motherboards when you upgrade eventually, and there's no need for an aftermarket cooler. Then again, intel is in the process of getting back on top of multicore performance. So really, just pick whatever you think is best value.


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13 minutes ago, Nesquikpowder said:

I see that you are using the Ryzen 1800x. How is that treating you? 

I forgot to mention that any Intel CPU now is ULTRA HOT.

 

I'd slap R1700 and overclock it to 4.0Ghz. You'll get around 1800 in multi score performance, and around 163 in single core which is definitely enough for gaming. Then in the future upgrade to Ryzen 2 and you save money since you can use the same motherboard!


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4 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

I will say a 6 core i5. However, 6c12t i7, r5 1600 and r7 1700, all of them are great CPUs. The choice is yours.

i5 8400......its the new mid range 720p/1080p gaming champion.....best price to performance, plus leaves the door open for icelake/cannonlake CPUs (if intel sticks to their normal cycles, only 1 of these might be on mainstream....look at broadwell, only really made it into HEDT)

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13 minutes ago, Nesquikpowder said:

I see that you are using the Ryzen 1800x. How is that treating you? 

I have a 1700 and it's amazing. Who knows 8700k might be better but I'd rather not have a heater


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Just now, Abyss Gaming said:

I have a 1700 and it's amazing. Who knows 8700k might be better but I'd rather not have a heater

I seen temps as high as 92C when overclocked on a normal water cooling like H110.


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Just now, TheNaitsyrk said:

I seen temps as high as 92C when overclocked on a normal water cooling like H110.

I also paid 340 for my CPU and board. I'd be looking at quite a bit more if I chose an 8700k. But that doesn't matter to everyone. But my h7 could handle an oc to 3.8 on my 1700


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Just now, Nesquikpowder said:

So Ryzen is really up there with Intel right now. Seems that Ryzen 5 1600x has good frames on the games I play/will play and has more cores for multitasking + motherboard support till 2020. Seems that I'm leaning towards the Ryzen 5

It's just cost effective. If you don't have more than 100Hz screen and like cost effectiveness then Ryzen 1700 is BEST choice.


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Just now, Abyss Gaming said:

I also paid 340 for my CPU and board. I'd be looking at quite a bit more if I chose an 8700k. But that doesn't matter to everyone. But my h7 could handle an oc to 3.8 on my 1700

My OCed 1800X at 4.0Ghz is max 59C under fullest synthetic load using H115i.


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it's not fair to compare temperatures when ryzen OC to 4Ghz and intel to 5Ghz. The same to base clock speeds :$


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Buy the chip that provides the best performance now. That happens to be the i7-8700K but the i5-8400 is a good cost effective option.


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Just now, Fardin said:

what is your budget & future gaming aim? i am sure you considered upgrading monitor too. 

Yeah. Right now I don't mind my monitor. It's a normal 60hz. I'm not really keen on leaving my frames uncaped so I prefer to either cap them around 80-100 FPS. I have not thought a single bit about upgrading my monitor but who knows, maybe in the future, when I have my degree and a good job, I may upgrade to a 4K. I'm just looking for a CPU with solid performance and stability for games and multitasking right now.

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2 minutes ago, asus killer said:

it's not fair to compare temperatures when ryzen OC to 4Ghz and intel to 5Ghz. The same to base clock speeds :$

Then they should lower the clocks.... And use soldering. It is fair. Its the fact that they used themal paste over soldering...


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1 minute ago, Nesquikpowder said:

Yeah. Right now I don't mind my monitor. It's a normal 60hz. I'm not really keen on leaving my frames uncaped so I prefer to either cap them around 80-100 FPS. I have not thought a single bit about upgrading my monitor but who knows, maybe in the future, when I have my degree and a good job, I may upgrade to a 4K. I'm just looking for a CPU with solid performance and stability for games and multitasking right now.

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Gaming-B350-Motherboard-TOMAHAWK/dp/B06WVFFXXL/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1508326238&sr=8-1&keywords=b350+tomahawk

 

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Cooling: Corsair H115i with Thermaltake 140MM Green Riing Performance fans sandwich.

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1 minute ago, Nesquikpowder said:

So Ryzen is really up there with Intel right now. Seems that Ryzen 5 1600x has good frames on the games I play/will play and has more cores for multitasking + motherboard support till 2020. Seems that I'm leaning towards the Ryzen 5

AMD only said they would support the AM4 platform until 2020, but what they didn't say was if you need new chipsets for future Ryzen CPUs 

 

from the past, supporting a platform and actually releasing better generations of hardware on it are another story

 

one really telling stat for these wars that many people forget

 

intel mainstream 1151 pins --> amd mainstream 1331 pins = 14% less contact points (some of which may not be used on each CPU)

 

intel HEDT 2066/2011 pins --> AMD HEDT (TR4) 4094 pins =~ 50% of the contact points (some of which may not be used on each CPU) you do have to take into account that some here will need to be used for 8 channel ddr on EPYC and the extra PCI-e lanes, but surely it can't be double

 

this shows that intel is still ahead in terms of platform stability, since AMD would have not gone that large (especially with TR/EPYC) if they didn't need to in order to keep up

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1 minute ago, Abyss Gaming said:

Then they should lower the clocks.... And use soldering. It is fair. Its the fact that they used themal paste over soldering...

you can lower the clock yourself 


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1 minute ago, asus killer said:

you can lower the clock yourself 

He would have to in order to not throttle the Intel CPU!


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PSU: 1000RM Corsair GOLD.

Display: 4K AOC U2868PQU + 1080P AOC 27". 

Cooling: Corsair H115i with Thermaltake 140MM Green Riing Performance fans sandwich.

Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K70 LUX Blue MX Switches, Logitech Waterproof Keyboard.

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2 minutes ago, Nesquikpowder said:

Yeah. Right now I don't mind my monitor. It's a normal 60hz. I'm not really keen on leaving my frames uncaped so I prefer to either cap them around 80-100 FPS. I have not thought a single bit about upgrading my monitor but who knows, maybe in the future, when I have my degree and a good job, I may upgrade to a 4K. I'm just looking for a CPU with solid performance and stability for games and multitasking right now.

alright if you consider anything over 1080p example 4k, then cpu wont be the factor, you will need a higher end gpu like gtx 1080/1080 ti. also adding that if you are not into high refresh gaming, you can go with ryzen 1600/1700 which will fill your demand (80-100fps). the scenario would be changed when you have flexible budget, then consider only 8700k .it's best of both world. it will smash anything you can throw off. another budget alternative would be 8400, which would perform better than ryzen in gaming & stay slight behind in multi tasking.  

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