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which lenguage / lenguages do you guys think that will going to be the most needed/well paid that you would bet for the next gen? 

websites that i can learn for free at home?

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The best paying ones are the most difficult ones, because a beginner can't just get started on it within minutes. So I could answer with something like C++, but that is not really in the realm of possibilities for a beginner. Don't run before you can walk, as they say.

So, do you want to just hear some languages or do you want to know what languages you should start with?

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1 minute ago, Minibois said:

So, do you want to just hear some languages or do you want to know what languages you should start with?

well, i did very basic c++ but now i forgot almost everything... Anyways, ehm, tell me both, lenguages that i should start and what i would like to know

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3 minutes ago, Blackhole890 said:

well, i did very basic c++ but now i forgot almost everything... Anyways, ehm, tell me both, lenguages that i should start and what i would like to know

You could start with a ton of stuff, it just depends on what your end game goal is.

For example Python, Java and the various implementations of the C# languages would all be a good start.

 

These languages could all be a good step up to the 'best paid' languages, which could (remember: could) be: C++ and the likes. Basically the most difficult jobs.

You could also make a ton of money with Java, when making apps. There is no set in stone 'most expensive language for developers'.

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Just now, Minibois said:

You could start with a ton of stuff, it just depends on what your end game goal is.

For example Python, Java and the various implementations of the C# languages would all be a good start.

 

These languages could all be a good step up to the 'best paid' languages, which could (remember: could) be: C++ and the likes. Basically the most difficult jobs.

You could also make a ton of money with Java, when making apps. There is no set in stone 'most expensive language for developers'.

well, i looked for programming jobs but never heard anything about c++ but c# or any web online coding lenguage... Maybe im living in the wrong place but its just maybe..

 

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13 minutes ago, Minibois said:

You could start with a ton of stuff, it just depends on what your end game goal is.

For example Python, Java and the various implementations of the C# languages would all be a good start.

 

These languages could all be a good step up to the 'best paid' languages, which could (remember: could) be: C++ and the likes. Basically the most difficult jobs.

You could also make a ton of money with Java, when making apps. There is no set in stone 'most expensive language for developers'.

and what about abap?

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40 minutes ago, Blackhole890 said:

which lenguage / lenguages do you guys think that will going to be the most needed/well paid that you would bet for the next gen? 

websites that i can learn for free at home?

Java, C++, C#, Python, C, JavaScript, and a few others are all great options with relatively high demand and pay.

 

 

It depends on what specifically you're wanting to do with it. (Such as web development, application development, etc..)

 

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Just now, Blackhole890 said:

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I did a year of coding college, gave up on it as I end up deciding tech and computers suits me better as hobby than professional life... it was a good thing just after I got a great job with export manage, did college courses for foreigner commerce and nowadays doing much better professionally.

 

Any ways, every single teacher I had which were awesome coders with their own local companies, be it for HTML/CSS or even more in dept software for professional solutions were pretty safe in agreeing that Android is a very valid market, the OS will become more and more popular and important with the further use of compact mobile devices.

 

Learning all you can on Android coding my render a good future job.

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1 minute ago, TheKDub said:

Java, C++, C#, Python, C, JavaScript, and a few others are all great options with relatively high demand and pay.

 

 

It depends on what specifically you're wanting to do with it. (Such as web development, application development, etc..)

 

well, as long as i can live well, i will try to learn everything i can

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5 minutes ago, Blackhole890 said:

well, as long as i can live well, i will try to learn everything i can

My biggest suggestion is come up with projects that you can do that'll expand your knowledge of the language. Try doing things you haven't done before, and ingrain them into your memory through practice.

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37 minutes ago, Blackhole890 said:

well, i looked for programming jobs but never heard anything about c++ but c# or any web online coding lenguage... Maybe im living in the wrong place but its just maybe..

What do you mean? You never saw any programming jobs ask for those languages?

Than you have not seen enough applications, 90% of the asking for junior/senior developer things want either C++, C# or both.

35 minutes ago, Blackhole890 said:

and what about abap?

Not familiar enough with it to comment on it.

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2 minutes ago, Minibois said:

Not familiar enough with it to comment on it.

well, i have heard that they pay around 30k-100k per year, which looks like very good salary?

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You can use Java to program android. Java is in the top 10. 

Also python, C, C++, and I forget what else but those are popular languages for high paying jobs. 

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On 10/15/2017 at 8:44 AM, Blackhole890 said:

which lenguage / lenguages do you guys think that will going to be the most needed/well paid that you would bet for the next gen?

Currently the trend has been going towards web application development. So languages like JavaScript, PHP, and Ruby are still in high demand. Depending on who you ask, CSS can be considered a programming language (and it has been proven to be Turing Complete, so I can't really argue with that).

 

If you want to develop local applications, it entirely depends on what you're using to develop said application or what kind of application you're going for. For games, you usually don't create a game from scratch, you get an engine that has the features you're looking for and development tools to use. If there is any manually typed scripting, it's probably going to be in some C-style syntax. For other applications, that mostly depends on what you're trying to target.

 

But if we used GitHub as any means of indicating what's hot: https://stackify.com/trendiest-programming-languages-hottest-sought-programming-languages-2017/

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Assuming you've got a basic understanding of html and css I'd go for javascript or php, then migrate to a framework once you get the basics down. I started with php and have moved to Codeigniter and onto Laravel... But everyones pretty much right it depends on what you are trying to do.

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If you're going for the jobs with the highest pay, you should get an engineering/informatics degree. Classes in those areas will be relevant for many, many years to come, and what you learn in university/college will help you solve a lot of difficult problems, and also just code better in general. C++ and Java are two very common languages taught in universities and colleges due to how central they are in both consumer and enterprise applications. 

 

If you'd rather work with front-end systems, I'd imagine you'd get paid less than the people working on the back-end, but that's just a guess based on the knowledge required in order to work within those two areas. It seems that Javascript/HTML&CSS are more accessible skills to employers (at least that's the case where I live), while people with skills more useful in back-end development (databases, web-server technologies, security, cloud computing etc.) are often harder to come by, and therefore often end up getting paid more.

 

But in the end, you'll have to decide based on your interest and way of thinking. If you're a good problem solver, aiming for college/university and engineering or comp. sci. is a good idea. If your thinking is more design-oriented and not so much problem-oriented, there are both guides and books on the web and schools which offer courses on the most common front-end languages. 

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On 15/10/2017 at 6:01 PM, Minibois said:

Than you have not seen enough applications, 90% of the asking for junior/senior developer things want either C++, C# or both.

Here in scotland, most jobs are front-end angular type jobs and a few dot net web applications. It highly depends on where you live.

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As coding skills become increasingly more accessible on the job market, I'd say that the actual future lies more within having both programming skills and relevant knowledge together with your programming skills. Examples would be the increasing need for people with knowledge and experience regarding neural networks, advanced security, optimization problems and so on. 

 

What I'm trying to stress is that while coding might be important for having a chance at a job, it's not the magic ticket which you might think it is. It's very important to have the proper knowledge to back up your programming skills, since a lot of problems that you might encounter, if you're not doing just simple web design, may require understading of more advanced concepts in order to produce an acceptable solution.

 

So if you're serious about working winthin IT, it's never a bad idea to pick up a book on for example algoritms or data structures.

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which lenguage / lenguages do you guys think that will going to be the most needed/well paid that you would bet for the next gen? 

I'd suggest starting with Python or C# just cause they're pretty beginner friendly while still being very useful.

 

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I'll include a starter/resource guide I made during the spring for this very purpose.

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