Intel with VEGA graphics?! Debunked

[NumLock21]

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This slide presents a different story, which is that Intel may indeed be working with AMD and using RTG graphics technologies on their upcoming mobility GPUs. The slide is for mobile CPUs so we can expect a new series of mobile processors from Intel.

Leak picture showing Intel with the possibility of using RTG's VEGA graphics. No other info on that picture or when this might happen. Coffee Lake, Tiger Lake, Ice Lake, Cannon Lake?

 

http://wccftech.com/intel-mobile-processors-amd-vega-inside/

 

 

Update

There will be no intel cpu with vega graphics. Now let's meet Intel's employee of the month for the mobile division, Mr. Vega!

[DrMacintosh]

If this is true Nvidia is so immeasurably salty 

 

Kinda like the dead sea

[TheKDub]

That's pretty awesome, hopefully it means better integrated graphics.

[iamdarkyoshi]

 

I want vega in an i9...

[Ekst4zy]

In other news Pigs are now flying. It's wccftech... Intel working with AMD? Sure.

[Cyracus]

didn't we just get over dispelling one of these rumors like...last month. ugh

Just now, Ekst4zy said:

In other news Pigs are now flying. It's wccftech... Intel working with AMD? Sure.

well, intel does rely on amd to stay in business so that intel doesn't have to deal with monopoly claims and issues therein

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, Ekst4zy said:

Intel working with AMD?

Intel doesn't really care. 

 

As far as Intel is concerned using AMD graphics can prop up their CPUs and burry AMDs CPUs. It could be a better investment for Intel than you realise.  

[Max Caulfield]

3 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

Leak picture showing Intel with the possibility of using RTG's VEGA graphics. No other info on that picture or when this might happen. Coffee Lake, Tiger Lake, Ice Lake, Cannon Lake?

 

http://wccftech.com/intel-mobile-processors-amd-vega-inside/

Even my Polaroid 600 Instant camera does a better job at taking picture

[HKZeroFive]

Of course the image has to be the blurriest thing imaginable.

 

This has to be fake.

[NumLock21]

5 minutes ago, Ekst4zy said:

In other news Pigs are now flying. It's wccftech... Intel working with AMD? Sure.

It's not AMD. It's Radeon Technologies Group.

6 minutes ago, iamdarkyoshi said:

@NumLock21 Please update your post to meet the Tech News guidelines

 

There is nothing more to add but I'll randomly quote the article, just to meet the guide lines. Congrats on becoming a mod!

[sazrocks]

This was posted earlier on reddit. I think it was found that is was just some random employee of the month thing that had been photoshopped.

[Ekst4zy]

7 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

It's not AMD. It's Radeon Technologies Group.

Which is still owned by AMD. Also...This post was meant as a joke  

[NumLock21]

Just now, Ekst4zy said:

Which is still owned by AMD.

And it's considered a separate company, even though we know from AMD. Just like Aorus which is own by Gigabyte.

[Ekst4zy]

Just now, NumLock21 said:

And it's considered a separate company, even though we know from AMD. Just like Aorus which is own by Gigabyte.

"separate" Still owned by AMD, right? So if RTG makes money AMD makes money, No? Also, I edited my post. Chill man, I really don't care  

[TrigrH]

fake image i bet.

[ARikozuM]

8 minutes ago, Ekst4zy said:

"separate" Still owned by AMD, right? So if RTG makes money AMD makes money, No? Also, I edited my post. Chill man, I really don't care  

Technically, you could be separate and still part of another entity, i.e. Proctor & Gamble, Johnson & Johnson, Mars. 

[S w a t s o n]

Wasn't Intel rumored to be licensing AMD IP for their iGPU's a couple months ago and then Intel was like "lol no" and AMD was like "yea they are our compeititor what do you even mean?"

 

Edit: Yup. http://fortune.com/2017/05/23/amd-intel-chips/

[Carclis]

I'm actually impressed that someone managed to take photos with quality this poor.

[Ekst4zy]

5 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Technically, you could be separate and still part of another entity, i.e. Proctor & Gamble, Johnson & Johnson, Mars. 

"AMD Forms Radeon Technologies Group To Enhance Focus on Graphics And Immersive Computing Under The Leadership of Raja Koduri"

 

http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/radeon-technologies-group-2015sept09.aspx

 

Sure, it's a separate company with no ties to AMD.

[ApolloFury]

4 minutes ago, Carclis said:

I'm actually impressed that someone managed to take photos with quality this poor.

No seriously why "leak" pictures are always blurry, low resolution, and misaligned. My brick Nokia phone from 2008 has a better camera than this.

[Carclis]

4 minutes ago, ApolloFury said:

No seriously why "leak" pictures are always blurry, low resolution, and misaligned. My brick Nokia phone from 2008 has a better camera than this.

The only excuse I can think of is they're fake. If someone wanted them to seem legitimate then they would take a proper photo or record a video.

[Taf the Ghost]

7 minutes ago, Swatson said:

Wasn't Intel rumored to be licensing AMD IP for their iGPU's a couple months ago and then Intel was like "lol no" and AMD was like "yea they are our compeititor what do you even mean?"

 

Edit: Yup. http://fortune.com/2017/05/23/amd-intel-chips/

It's a project for Apple, more than likely. Intel just doesn't do GPUs too well and AMD is the iGPU kings. There's been a lot of rumors about it for months now, but it far more likely, if it eventually happens, to be some hybrid package setup for Apple laptops. At least until Apple's own GPU division is fully established. (They're building out a massive graphics group in Austin, TX right now.)

[S w a t s o n]

2 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

It's a project for Apple, more than likely. Intel just doesn't do GPUs too well and AMD is the iGPU kings. There's been a lot of rumors about it for months now, but it far more likely, if it eventually happens, to be some hybrid package setup for Apple laptops. At least until Apple's own GPU division is fully established. (They're building out a massive graphics group in Austin, TX right now.)

Apple's upcoming iMac pro's list vega 56 and vega 64, they aren't sticking that into a xeon or core i9 with their cooling solution (any cooling solution actually lmao), maybe for unannounced macbook?

Edit: I'm blind, so yes we agree a laptop maybe. I dont think it's a real leak though

[Taf the Ghost]

Just now, Swatson said:

Apple's upcoming iMac pro's list vega 56 and vega 64, they aren't sticking that into a xeon or core i9 with their cooling solution, maybe for unannounced macbook?

Right. The iMac Pros are 5k or higher systems. That's a dedicated GPU.

 

The problem with most of what Apple is doing in the laptop space is that the Intel iGPU holds back a lot of things. This is why Bulldozer was so bad for AMD. The iGPU from GCN are really good, but they were crippled by the Dozer cores. However, while that changes with Raven Ridge here very soon, it doesn't change that Apple probably has an Intel contract that runs for years. Intel can't fix the iGPU problem, so Apple has the money for a semi-custom solution.

 

That solution? An Intel mobile CPU with a disable GPU put on an interposer with a 16 CU Vega design. GCN is extremely efficient at low power, so it can fit well within Apple's power budget. Apple controls all of its own drivers, so they designs don't really have to communicate with each other. It's pretty much just the Raven Ridge Vega design, anyway, but on separate silicon. 

 

If I was Apple, that's what I'd do. I get to improve my Laptops and what it costs me is putting designs on an interposer. Their Intel CPUs are likely, already, slightly custom anyway. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro

 

If you scroll down to the 4th Gen, you'll notice to run the Touch-Bar, they require a mobile Radeon solution. It'd save Apple money to be able to put the solution on-package. (Space is important for those types of laptops.) If they want to go further that direction, they need more GPU power. Easiest way to get that to make the CPU package bigger with an on-package GPU solution.

 

This doesn't mean it's actually happening, but if I was Apple, I would look to do that.

[DeScruff]

I'm just curious, how much is Intel really investing in designing iGPUs?
The fact they have always been low end, makes me think 'Barely', and if given a good reason to outsource or use some other companies' GPU they might, even if that GPU comes from a competitor of another market. 
- Like if Intel was interested in being the CPU designer for the next generation of Consoles, the volume of Consoles would probably be worth it to them, even if they have to partner with AMD, to get the GPU in the same Chip.