Intel Coffee Lake Review Thread

[Mr_Troll]

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Intel Coffee Lake Reviews

 

Since the Coffee Lake NDA is lifted I will put here all  the reviews I found ... so that people can find the in one place.

 

Here are some takeaways:

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Anandtech:

 

We finally have six-core processors on Intel’s mainstream platform, which has driven up the core counts (and frequencies) of the company's low and mid-range processors. For anyone looking at building a system in the last 6-12 months, they should be able to build an equivalent with the latest-generation processor for $50-$100 less. Or spend the same and get a few more cores to play with. The last time we had this situation was a decade ago, and hopefully it won’t take another decade to happen again.

 

Ars Technica:

 

For consumers after the best processor for gaming, and even some content creation tasks, the 8700K is a no-brainer, even with its proclivity for heat. But those with an eye on the wider CPU market and the revived competition between Intel and AMD should note that is very much a battle won, not a war.

 

PcPer : 

 

Overall, if you are building a new PC today, I think the Core i7-8700K or the Core i5-8400 (depending on your budget) make exceedingly excellent options. The single threaded performance advantages that Intel provides, as well as the potentially better gaming, give Intel continued leadership is many consumers' eyes. If you are a heavy multi-threaded user, doing video rendering or 3D modelling, Ryzen likely remains a better option in the enthusiast price range, though with 6-cores now available in the mainstream CPU family, the Intel is closer and more competitive than it has been since March.

 

Hardware Canucks:

 

As for the whole Intel versus AMD question, it looks like Coffee Lake has convincingly won this round. Granted, Intel may still take some well-deserved lumps for not offering unlocked multipliers on their entire lineup but that’s a minor issue for a niche market rather than a fundamental problem. Because when the numbers are calculated, there’s absolutely no doubt that right now the i7-8700K and i5-8400 are the value leaders in their respective segments.

 

Here are all the written reviews so far:

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/11859/the-anandtech-coffee-lake-review-8700k-and-8400-initial-numbers

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/10/intel-coffee-lake-8700k-review/

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8363/intel-core-i7-8700k-i5-8400-coffee-lake-cpu-review/index.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-coffee-lake-i7-8700k-cpu,5252.html

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-intel-coffee-lake-core-i7-8700k-review

https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Coffee-Lake-Story-Intel-Core-i7-8700K-and-Core-i5-8400-Review

http://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-8700k-review-8th-gen-coffee-lake-takes-on-amd-ryzen

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/intel_coffee_lake_i7_8700k_review/1

https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/110336-intel-core-i7-8700k-core-i5-8400-14nm-coffee-lake/

http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-core-i7-8700k-core-i5-8400-processor-review-coffee-lake_198473

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/257006-intels-core-i7-8700k-reviewed-six-core-chip-punches-far-weight-class

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/76162-intel-coffee-lake-i7-8700k-i5-8400-review.html

 

Plus some youtube videos: ... those better longer ones:

 

OC3D

 

Gamers Nexus

 

 

Hardware Unboxed

 

 

Digital Foundry :

 

Overall looks like a solid procesor .. for gaming especially.

 

Source:  https://www.anandtech.com/show/11859/the-anandtech-coffee-lake-review-8700k-and-8400-initial-numbers

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/10/intel-coffee-lake-8700k-review/

https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Coffee-Lake-Story-Intel-Core-i7-8700K-and-Core-i5-8400-Review

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/76162-intel-coffee-lake-i7-8700k-i5-8400-review.html 

OC3D youtube channel

Gamer Nexus youtube channel

Hardware Unboxed channel

Digital Foundry youtube channel

 

[Majestic]

Utterly boring paperlaunch. 

[DocSwag]

Just now, Majestic said:

Utterly boring paperlaunch. 

Why is this boring?

[Majestic]

Just now, DocSwag said:

Why is this boring?

What is exciting about it?

[Silentprototipe]

And yet it still isnt enough for me to consider an upgrade

[Bananasplit_00]

1 minute ago, Majestic said:

Utterly boring paperlaunch. 

i cant say i see how new CPUs are booring when they perform this great and have pretty decent pricee/performance

[DocSwag]

Just now, Majestic said:

What is exciting about it?

Intel is literally giving us 50% more cores for pretty much the same price, not to mention that we're seeing Intel and AMD finally going at each other with competition.

[Majestic]

5 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Intel is literally giving us 50% more cores for pretty much the same price, not to mention that we're seeing Intel and AMD finally going at each other with competition.

Oh intel is giving you 50% more cores huh. Aren't they so nice for putting it onto different boards yet again, sandbagging since 2011, putting shitty TIM on everything and charging extra for unlocked chips.

 

There is nothing exciting about this paperlaunch. AMD still has more interesting offerings and beats them in perf./watt. This launch reeks of desperation. So if that is the one positive thing you call exciting, then fine. It is quite pleasing to see Intel grovel.

 

Oh, and did I mention it was a paperlaunch.

[knightslugger]

8 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Why is this boring?

probably because your Tech News doesn't contain anything original, per Community Standards.

[Ezio Auditore]

6 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Oh intel is giving you 50% more cores huh. Aren't they so nice for putting it onto different boards yet again, sandbagging since 2011, putting shitty TIM on everything and charging extra for unlocked chips.

 

There is nothing exciting about this paperlaunch. AMD still has more interesting offerings and beats them in perf./watt. This launch reeks of desperation. So if that is the one positive thing you call exciting, then fine. It is quite pleasing to see Intel grovel.

 

Oh, and did I mention it was a paperlaunch.

They had to put it into a different board as the chipset doesn't support 6 cores..........and what do you mean by yet again?

You must be the only person in the world who buys by seeing perf/watt graphs. 

[TVwazhere]

8 minutes ago, Majestic said:

This launch reeks of desperation.

This post reaks of AMD fanboy

 

I agree on price to performance AMD wins, and I'm not interested in this launch really, but it's not boring and it's not useless 

[Majestic]

2 minutes ago, Ezio Auditore said:

They had to put it into a different board as the chipset doesn't support 6 cores..........and what do you mean by yet again?

You must be the only person in the world who buys by seeing perf/watt graphs. 

And i'm sure that was by complete accident.

Yes because i'm running SFF. And interesting how this used to be the big point people brought up when it was about Intel/Nvidia.

1 minute ago, TVwazhere said:

This post reaks of AMD fanboy

 

I agree on price to performance AMD wins, and I'm not interested in this launch really, but it's not boring and it's not useless 

Calling me an AMD fanboy, you have no idea how ironic that is. When i've literally been dubbed an Intel fanboy for years. Thanks for the absolute topkek.

 

>price performance AMD wins
>not interested in this launch
>"it's not boring"

You keep bringing those topkeks

[DocSwag]

10 minutes ago, knightslugger said:

probably because your Tech News doesn't contain anything original, per Community Standards.

Dude, I didn't make the post, you realize that right...

[Princess Luna]

4 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

I agree on price to performance AMD wins, and I'm not interested in this launch really, but it's not boring and it's not useless 

Linus videos sucks, when I watched it I feared that the i7 8700k could be disappointing somehow as their gaming benchmarks showed the i7 7700k was a tiny bit ahead, then every single other video shows the Coffee Lake easily taking the lead and now I feel much better with my soon to become true upgrade [:

[Misanthrope]

4 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

This post reaks of AMD fanboy

 

I agree on price to performance AMD wins, and I'm not interested in this launch really, but it's not boring and it's not useless 

Is not even a clear win: For productivity I'm seeing anywhere from an intel win to more measured numbers like a slight win from the Ryzen 7. Given that the 8700k comes close to matching the 1700-1800x in productivity (see clocks for each) and winning by a large margin on gaming scenarios (again those pesky fucking 1080p tests on a 1080ti, yes I still think high refresh rate is overrated) it might just come down to application specific scenarios.

[TVwazhere]

Just now, Majestic said:

 

Calling me an AMD fanboy, you have no idea how ironic that is. When i've literally been dubbed an Intel fanboy for years. Thanks for the absolute topkek.

 

 

>price performance AMD wins
>not interested in this launch
>"it's not boring"

You keep bringing those topkeks

Sorry I dont stalk you harder than the NSA

 

Yes, I'm not interested but i still find it exciting. Like I find fast cars exciting but I'm not interested in buying one.

 

You keep bring those overused meme language dialogues 

[DocSwag]

14 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Oh intel is giving you 50% more cores huh. Aren't they so nice for putting it onto different boards yet again, sandbagging since 2011, putting shitty TIM on everything and charging extra for unlocked chips.

 

There is nothing exciting about this paperlaunch. AMD still has more interesting offerings and beats them in perf./watt. This launch reeks of desperation. So if that is the one positive thing you call exciting, then fine. It is quite pleasing to see Intel grovel.

 

Oh, and did I mention it was a paperlaunch.

Performance/watt. Since when did I give a crap about performance/watt? Since when did anyone give a crap about performance/watt when the difference between the CPUs is so small? What really matters is that Intel is offering you as good multi core performance and 30-40% higher single thread performance for a little bit higher price. As well as the fact that now the locked i5s are gonna be gaming champions and the locked i3s will be much better value than the R3 CPUs.

 

As for "shitty tim," the TIM Intel uses is actually very high quality stuff. The reason for the poor thermal performance is because of the adhesive connecting the substrate to the IHS. That stuff expands under heat which creates gaps between the IHS and die which results in the poor thermal performance. You can see evidence of this in GN seeing still bad thermal performance after using LM on a 7900x. Temps weren't fixed until they went and scraped off some of the adhesive.

[Misanthrope]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Linus videos sucks, when I watched it I feared that the i7 8700k could be disappointing somehow as their gaming benchmarks showed the i7 7700k was a tiny bit ahead, then every single other video shows the Coffee Lake easily taking the lead and now I feel much better with my soon to become true upgrade [:

I kind of have to agree here a bit: Day to day their videos are still entertaining but when it comes to hardware launches it honestly feels they spend far more time with the comedy sketches and the b-roll than the actual performance testing.

[Majestic]

"Nah fam, Intel's TIM is really high quality stuff."

 

I'm done, my sides can't handle this.

[Od1sseas]

On Geekbench Ryzen 3 1200

Single-Core: 3400

Multi-Core: 9300

 

while i3 8100 scores

Single-Core: 4600

Multi-Core: 13600

 

The i3 8100 has the same performance as the i5 7400

 

Overclocking the Ryzen 3 1200 to 3.9 Ghz we getting kinda the same scores as the i3 8100

 

Intel destroyed AMD

[TVwazhere]

4 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

Is not even a clear win: For productivity I'm seeing anywhere from an intel win to more measured numbers like a slight win from the Ryzen 7. Given that the 8700k comes close to matching the 1700-1800x in productivity (see clocks for each) and winning by a large margin on gaming scenarios (again those pesky fucking 1080p tests on a 1080ti, yes I still think high refresh rate is overrated) it might just come down to application specific scenarios.

Gotta include cost of system too

 

Personally I'll shell out more for the higher IPC and single core speeds for my applications

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Od1sseas said:

On Geekbench

Really? Use a real benchmark, like Cinebench. Geekbench sucks.

[Majestic]

1 minute ago, Od1sseas said:

Overclocking the Ryzen 3 1200 to 3.9 Ghz we getting kinda the same scores as the i3 8100

 

Intel destroyed AMD

Except there are no cheap boards in sight. It's Z370 only. I fail to see your point.

[DocSwag]

1 minute ago, Majestic said:

"Nah fam, Intel's TIM is really high quality stuff."

 

I'm done, my sides can't handle this.

Don't you love it when I provide a legitimate source and then instead of refuting it, you think it's funny?

 

 

[Cookybiscuit]

22 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Oh, and did I mention it was a paperlaunch.

This is the shit kicker.

 

Bad enough are the sky high temps, even worse is the fact that you can't even fucking get one.