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General X58 Xeon/i7 discussion

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12 hours ago, Geography said:

Thanks, I'll work on the overclock soon.

Also i can see you have a asus motherboard. That means to change uncore clock its the ulck you need to change and voltage for qpi/dram voltage if i remember correct. For stable at 3600 mhz qpi/dram typically needs around 1.35 volt give or take from there. You maybe also needs to increase core voltage to get it fully stable.

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Hello!

 

Looking to upgrade my X58 Sabertooth for more stable overclocking, ended up with a horribly unstable X5650 that I already upgraded to X5675 so the next natural thing would be to upgrade the mobo.

 

Is there a tier list or comparison of motherboards' crucial elements for OC? Cooling with H115i Pro and I have a PCI-E x4 NVMe and x1 sound card, so mATX boards won't work for me. Would an P6T Deluxe V2 be a major upgrade for example? Friend has one spare unit.

 

Thanks!

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19 minutes ago, gouca said:

Hello!

 

Looking to upgrade my X58 Sabertooth for more stable overclocking, ended up with a horribly unstable X5650 that I already upgraded to X5675 so the next natural thing would be to upgrade the mobo.

 

Is there a tier list or comparison of motherboards' crucial elements for OC? Cooling with H115i Pro and I have a PCI-E x4 NVMe and x1 sound card, so mATX boards won't work for me. Would an P6T Deluxe V2 be a major upgrade for example? Friend has one spare unit.

 

Thanks!

P6Ts are excellent boards, I know a guy who pushed his X5675 to 5Ghz on one of them, and a ton of other guys have them pushing 4.5Ghz dailies and such.


 If you wanna discuss the X58 platform and get tips and advice: General X58 Xeon/i7 discussion. If you want to discuss old Star Wars games like Battlefront II and KOTOR, check out my thread: Anyone still playing old Star Wars games? 

 

Long live his RGBness, @Damascus! And Fractal Design/SeaSonic dude, @Ordinarily_Greater is awesome as well! Also the man who introduced me to the glorious XCMR, @WhisperingKnickers.

 

X99 rig:

Spoiler

CPU: 5820K at 4.5-4.6Ghz, working on getting my OC 100% stable
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
Motherboard: EVGA Classified X99
Memory: 32GB (4x8GB) HyperX Predator 3200MHz DDR4
Storage: 120GB HyperX Savage SSD, 2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm HDDs
GPU: Radeon VII
Case: Corsair Air 540, Black
PSU: EVGA 1000W G3

X58 rig: 

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CPU: X5670 at 4.56GHz/1.5v for now, planning to push higher on that voltage

CPU Cooler: Heatkiller IV CPU block and custom loop with 360mm slim rad
Motherboard: EVGA Classified 4-Way SLI X58 motherboard
Memory: 24GB HyperX Savage DDR3 (Red). Running ~1600MHz 10-10-10-28 for now, it'll to 9-9-9-24 but I'm planning to push to 2000MHz, thus the looser timings. 

Storage: ADATA SU800 128GB SSD, HyperX Savage 120GB SSD
GPU: MSI Gaming X 1080 Ti 11G 
Case: Mountain Mods mobo tray, PSU mount off etsy, some rad mounting hardware and a board of plywood and such from Lowes. 
PSU: Corsair RM1000i

Laptop:

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Clevo P750TM1-G
Random Celeron, 8700K died so I gotta get my hands on an i5 8400

16GB 2400MHz DDR4

GTX 1070

250GB 960 Evo, 2TB Seagate Firecuda, 1TB Seagate Barracuda Pro

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, gouca said:

Would an P6T Deluxe V2 be a major upgrade for example?

I had one, but it turned out to be dead. I was told that it's an okay board for overclocking, but nothing too special. It wouldn't be a major upgrade.

 

Look out for other options like the Rampage II/III Extreme, EVGA Classified boards, ASUS WS boards, etc.


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1 minute ago, Geography said:

I had one, but it turned out to be dead. I was told that it's an okay board for overclocking, but nothing too special. It wouldn't be a major upgrade.

 

Look out for other options like the Rampage II/III Extreme, EVGA Classified boards, ASUS WS boards, etc.

Thanks, will do. I actually did own a Rampage II Extreme, a few years ago, which was insane but their availability is next to zero at any reasonable price.  

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3 minutes ago, Geography said:

I had one, but it turned out to be dead. I was told that it's an okay board for overclocking, but nothing too special. It wouldn't be a major upgrade.

 

Look out for other options like the Rampage II/III Extreme, EVGA Classified boards, ASUS WS boards, etc.

I have two Classified boards (4 if you count my SR-2s), can confirm they're excellent as well, but more expensive/harder to find. The Rampage III Formula is also a good board, @Troika has mine I traded to him, IIRC he's selling it because he's using the MSI Xpower Big Bang X58 (another good board, lol).


 If you wanna discuss the X58 platform and get tips and advice: General X58 Xeon/i7 discussion. If you want to discuss old Star Wars games like Battlefront II and KOTOR, check out my thread: Anyone still playing old Star Wars games? 

 

Long live his RGBness, @Damascus! And Fractal Design/SeaSonic dude, @Ordinarily_Greater is awesome as well! Also the man who introduced me to the glorious XCMR, @WhisperingKnickers.

 

X99 rig:

Spoiler

CPU: 5820K at 4.5-4.6Ghz, working on getting my OC 100% stable
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
Motherboard: EVGA Classified X99
Memory: 32GB (4x8GB) HyperX Predator 3200MHz DDR4
Storage: 120GB HyperX Savage SSD, 2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm HDDs
GPU: Radeon VII
Case: Corsair Air 540, Black
PSU: EVGA 1000W G3

X58 rig: 

Spoiler

CPU: X5670 at 4.56GHz/1.5v for now, planning to push higher on that voltage

CPU Cooler: Heatkiller IV CPU block and custom loop with 360mm slim rad
Motherboard: EVGA Classified 4-Way SLI X58 motherboard
Memory: 24GB HyperX Savage DDR3 (Red). Running ~1600MHz 10-10-10-28 for now, it'll to 9-9-9-24 but I'm planning to push to 2000MHz, thus the looser timings. 

Storage: ADATA SU800 128GB SSD, HyperX Savage 120GB SSD
GPU: MSI Gaming X 1080 Ti 11G 
Case: Mountain Mods mobo tray, PSU mount off etsy, some rad mounting hardware and a board of plywood and such from Lowes. 
PSU: Corsair RM1000i

Laptop:

Spoiler

Clevo P750TM1-G
Random Celeron, 8700K died so I gotta get my hands on an i5 8400

16GB 2400MHz DDR4

GTX 1070

250GB 960 Evo, 2TB Seagate Firecuda, 1TB Seagate Barracuda Pro

 

 

 

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43 minutes ago, gouca said:

Hello!

 

Looking to upgrade my X58 Sabertooth for more stable overclocking, ended up with a horribly unstable X5650 that I already upgraded to X5675 so the next natural thing would be to upgrade the mobo.

 

Is there a tier list or comparison of motherboards' crucial elements for OC? Cooling with H115i Pro and I have a PCI-E x4 NVMe and x1 sound card, so mATX boards won't work for me. Would an P6T Deluxe V2 be a major upgrade for example? Friend has one spare unit.

 

Thanks!

I can also reccomend ASUS P6X58D PREMIUM board. I have one my self and oc my i7 980z to 4.4 ghz for every day use and 4.745 ghz for benchmark and it is a second gen x58 board. Second gen means it has sata 3 and usb 3.0 onboard. The rampage 3 extreme is also a second gen board.

 

The p6t v2 i here missed exsperience with.

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I'm partial to the Gigabyte UD3R board, personally. I've been at 4.5ghz for years, it'll do 4.7+ but diminishing returns for the voltage kicked in pretty hard.

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On 3/20/2019 at 8:34 PM, bleu said:

If you're still interested in tweaking more It looks like your memory speed or uncore speed is slowing you down. My x5670 is scoring 1955 at only 4GHz (167 x 24). Memory is at 1670MHz and the uncore is at 3507MHz. 

On 3/21/2019 at 7:23 PM, Intelfreak said:

Also i can see you have a asus motherboard. That means to change uncore clock its the ulck you need to change and voltage for qpi/dram voltage if i remember correct. For stable at 3600 mhz qpi/dram typically needs around 1.35 volt give or take from there. You maybe also needs to increase core voltage to get it fully stable.

I spent some more time in my BIOS. Didn't get the greatest score ever but it improved a little bit.

 

Here are some of the settings (that I haven't forgotten): Voltage: 1.325v, Multiplier: x25.0, BCLK: 170, Uncore: 3580, Memory: 1360MHz, QPI/DRAM: 1.35v

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Also did some more testing on my CPU and its stability (with plenty of BSODs), and turned out my CPU isn't stable at a 190 BCLK at 1.4V. Do you guys think I need to add more voltage or that my silicon lottery isn't amazing?

 

Also one of my CPU cooler's fans just stopped working and I'm too lazy to reseat the fan header, so I can't push my CPU hard until I fix that lol. Works fine now.


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I posted some OC guides way back, take a look if you have the time. In them, the OP discusses 'BCLK holes' where stability just sort of disappears.

 

There were some tips: try odd BCLK (eg, 191, 195, etc), and also if nothing works, try going much higher. Eg, if you have issues getting stable at 1.35V at 180-190, put in 205 at the same voltage and see what it'll do.

 

Important: do NOT do this with your CPU multiplier maxed out, otherwise you'll just chase your tail. To figure out what your max stable BCLK is, you need to dial down your multi and memory to focus on only one set of knobs. Once you have a solid BCLK (most boards should do 200-210 at 1.35-1.4), then start adding cpu multiplier and uncore/memory mult back in.

 

This is the slow steady and pedantic method, but it worked for me (215 @ 1.32). If you still can't go higher after doing all that, then try another chip.

 

(also, I'm referring to QPI voltage, not CPU Vcore voltage here. you may need to add Vcore while doing this as well, or leave at 1.3V and see how high it'll go with a low CPU mult)

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Hi,

I'm currently planning an X58 build and I can't decide what CPU and motherboard I should get.

My main usage will be gaming at 1080p High (GTA V, beamNG.drive, CS:GO, Payday 2 etc.) and I'll be using a GTX 980 Ti with it as well.

Budget is around 200 GBP (RAM and postage excluded), location is UK.

Any suggestions/recommendations are appreciated.

Thanks in advance :) 


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5 hours ago, XR6 said:

I'm currently planning an X58 build and I can't decide what CPU and motherboard I should get.

For CPU, try to get a Xeon X5675. Those go for around C$45.

 

I recently built a X58 system and got a ton of advice from the people on this thread. I suggest you go all the way back to Page 72 and read up to the present. That should hopefully give you some ideas.


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4 hours ago, Geography said:

For CPU, try to get a Xeon X5675. Those go for around C$45.

 

I recently built a X58 system and got a ton of advice from the people on this thread. I suggest you go all the way back to Page 72 and read up to the present. That should hopefully give you some ideas.

^ X5675 for sure, it's the best bin for the buck (X5690 is another great bin but they're expensive) and with a decent cooler hitting 4.5Ghz shouldn't be too hard. If you wanna go cheaper, I got my X5670 for $14, about half what a '75 is and it runs 4.5Ghz fine, but I'm putting 1.45v through it so it makes a lot of heat (can push 4.74Ghz on about that voltage or a little more, but it won't pass CB20, only CB15), so your mileage may vary. Most X58 xeons will do at least 4.2Ghz with even a terrible bin though, and 4.5 is usually doable as well. 

 

@Troika actually has my OG Rampage III Formula and X5675 (I traded them to him with a bunch of other stuff) listed on the classifieds here right now IIRC. I ran that X5675 at 4.4-4.5GHz for a year and a half or so, paired with a 980 Ti most of the time and it was a great combo, solid mobo. IDK about shipping to the UK but you could ask him about it. 


 If you wanna discuss the X58 platform and get tips and advice: General X58 Xeon/i7 discussion. If you want to discuss old Star Wars games like Battlefront II and KOTOR, check out my thread: Anyone still playing old Star Wars games? 

 

Long live his RGBness, @Damascus! And Fractal Design/SeaSonic dude, @Ordinarily_Greater is awesome as well! Also the man who introduced me to the glorious XCMR, @WhisperingKnickers.

 

X99 rig:

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CPU: 5820K at 4.5-4.6Ghz, working on getting my OC 100% stable
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
Motherboard: EVGA Classified X99
Memory: 32GB (4x8GB) HyperX Predator 3200MHz DDR4
Storage: 120GB HyperX Savage SSD, 2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm HDDs
GPU: Radeon VII
Case: Corsair Air 540, Black
PSU: EVGA 1000W G3

X58 rig: 

Spoiler

CPU: X5670 at 4.56GHz/1.5v for now, planning to push higher on that voltage

CPU Cooler: Heatkiller IV CPU block and custom loop with 360mm slim rad
Motherboard: EVGA Classified 4-Way SLI X58 motherboard
Memory: 24GB HyperX Savage DDR3 (Red). Running ~1600MHz 10-10-10-28 for now, it'll to 9-9-9-24 but I'm planning to push to 2000MHz, thus the looser timings. 

Storage: ADATA SU800 128GB SSD, HyperX Savage 120GB SSD
GPU: MSI Gaming X 1080 Ti 11G 
Case: Mountain Mods mobo tray, PSU mount off etsy, some rad mounting hardware and a board of plywood and such from Lowes. 
PSU: Corsair RM1000i

Laptop:

Spoiler

Clevo P750TM1-G
Random Celeron, 8700K died so I gotta get my hands on an i5 8400

16GB 2400MHz DDR4

GTX 1070

250GB 960 Evo, 2TB Seagate Firecuda, 1TB Seagate Barracuda Pro

 

 

 

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Does it count as betrayal if I'm going for X99 instead of X58 for my PowerMac sleeper build?

 

I realized if I want to use it as a streaming PC/LAN party system, I'd probably want a more modern platform and X99 came to mind since it's still relevant but fairly cheap.

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21 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Does it count as betrayal if I'm going for X99 instead of X58 for my PowerMac sleeper build?

 

I realized if I want to use it as a streaming PC/LAN party system, I'd probably want a more modern platform and X99 came to mind since it's still relevant but fairly cheap.

I don't discriminate against different X chipsets, my current main is X99 as well. I am considering blasphemy and a move back to peasantry with a 9900K on a Z series platform tho so maybe my opinion is flawed. 


 If you wanna discuss the X58 platform and get tips and advice: General X58 Xeon/i7 discussion. If you want to discuss old Star Wars games like Battlefront II and KOTOR, check out my thread: Anyone still playing old Star Wars games? 

 

Long live his RGBness, @Damascus! And Fractal Design/SeaSonic dude, @Ordinarily_Greater is awesome as well! Also the man who introduced me to the glorious XCMR, @WhisperingKnickers.

 

X99 rig:

Spoiler

CPU: 5820K at 4.5-4.6Ghz, working on getting my OC 100% stable
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
Motherboard: EVGA Classified X99
Memory: 32GB (4x8GB) HyperX Predator 3200MHz DDR4
Storage: 120GB HyperX Savage SSD, 2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm HDDs
GPU: Radeon VII
Case: Corsair Air 540, Black
PSU: EVGA 1000W G3

X58 rig: 

Spoiler

CPU: X5670 at 4.56GHz/1.5v for now, planning to push higher on that voltage

CPU Cooler: Heatkiller IV CPU block and custom loop with 360mm slim rad
Motherboard: EVGA Classified 4-Way SLI X58 motherboard
Memory: 24GB HyperX Savage DDR3 (Red). Running ~1600MHz 10-10-10-28 for now, it'll to 9-9-9-24 but I'm planning to push to 2000MHz, thus the looser timings. 

Storage: ADATA SU800 128GB SSD, HyperX Savage 120GB SSD
GPU: MSI Gaming X 1080 Ti 11G 
Case: Mountain Mods mobo tray, PSU mount off etsy, some rad mounting hardware and a board of plywood and such from Lowes. 
PSU: Corsair RM1000i

Laptop:

Spoiler

Clevo P750TM1-G
Random Celeron, 8700K died so I gotta get my hands on an i5 8400

16GB 2400MHz DDR4

GTX 1070

250GB 960 Evo, 2TB Seagate Firecuda, 1TB Seagate Barracuda Pro

 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Does it count as betrayal if I'm going for X99 instead of X58 for my PowerMac sleeper build?

 

I realized if I want to use it as a streaming PC/LAN party system, I'd probably want a more modern platform and X99 came to mind since it's still relevant but fairly cheap.

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Its alright. Not even X58 can keep going on for ever. In fact i am planning a new build for my selv as well some time next year. I really have getting every thing out of X58 i can and there are no more i can think of to do to my X58 rig either. I mean i have been on X58 for 10 years now and i have a I7 980X oc to 4.4 GHz, NVME SSD, GTX 1080 TI, 12 GB ram, a cooling setup i am fairly pleased with now, running windows 10 and so on. I think i litterly have pushed X58 as far its possible to take it. The only thing i can think of now to do is to get a EVGA SR-2 mobo and two xeons but i really can use the second CPU to much so i am not going that long on X58.

 

So all in all, its time for me to move on as well. That dosent mean i am dropping X58. My plan is to keep my X58 rig and make a dual boot with Windows XP for retro gaming and install windows 10 and also use it as a secondary PC and for use to friends coming over.

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My plan is similar, I'm going to keep my X58 stuff to muck around with, since it won't be my main I can push it as far as I want and not worry about needing it stable for that night's gaming or something. Just haven't had the energy to fiddle with stuff lately (trying to overhaul my diet and start healthier habits and such) so thus why I'm probably moving to a 9900K for my main so I can just run it stock or at a light OC and have it 100% stable, then never mess with it again. Sucks to have random crashes 3 hours into a friday night gaming session or something because the OC isn't 100% stable yet. 


 If you wanna discuss the X58 platform and get tips and advice: General X58 Xeon/i7 discussion. If you want to discuss old Star Wars games like Battlefront II and KOTOR, check out my thread: Anyone still playing old Star Wars games? 

 

Long live his RGBness, @Damascus! And Fractal Design/SeaSonic dude, @Ordinarily_Greater is awesome as well! Also the man who introduced me to the glorious XCMR, @WhisperingKnickers.

 

X99 rig:

Spoiler

CPU: 5820K at 4.5-4.6Ghz, working on getting my OC 100% stable
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
Motherboard: EVGA Classified X99
Memory: 32GB (4x8GB) HyperX Predator 3200MHz DDR4
Storage: 120GB HyperX Savage SSD, 2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm HDDs
GPU: Radeon VII
Case: Corsair Air 540, Black
PSU: EVGA 1000W G3

X58 rig: 

Spoiler

CPU: X5670 at 4.56GHz/1.5v for now, planning to push higher on that voltage

CPU Cooler: Heatkiller IV CPU block and custom loop with 360mm slim rad
Motherboard: EVGA Classified 4-Way SLI X58 motherboard
Memory: 24GB HyperX Savage DDR3 (Red). Running ~1600MHz 10-10-10-28 for now, it'll to 9-9-9-24 but I'm planning to push to 2000MHz, thus the looser timings. 

Storage: ADATA SU800 128GB SSD, HyperX Savage 120GB SSD
GPU: MSI Gaming X 1080 Ti 11G 
Case: Mountain Mods mobo tray, PSU mount off etsy, some rad mounting hardware and a board of plywood and such from Lowes. 
PSU: Corsair RM1000i

Laptop:

Spoiler

Clevo P750TM1-G
Random Celeron, 8700K died so I gotta get my hands on an i5 8400

16GB 2400MHz DDR4

GTX 1070

250GB 960 Evo, 2TB Seagate Firecuda, 1TB Seagate Barracuda Pro

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

Not even X58 can keep going on for ever.

This is the exact reason I decided against X58 for this build. I had noticed that its age is really starting to show, and wanted something a little more modern.

 

Also I can grab a Xeon E5 + motherboard for 350-400 USD, so it's not like I'm spending that much more than say dual X-series and an SR-2 or whatever else carries dual 1366. I won't be needing dual CPUs anyway; if I can secure a good enough X99 board, that'll go up to a 2699v3 and 18 cores, so I'm not too fussed about multiprocessing.

 

Although it would be nice to keep dual CPUs in this case...maybe if I can source another G5 case I'll end up doing that.

 

On the bright side, my relatives said I could borrow their dremel next time I see them, so I'll end up making some progress a fair bit earlier than I thought. Hopefully I can get the case gutted and ready for the hardware I have in mind, then it'll just be a matter of sourcing everything else.

 

I also figured I'd go with an SFX power supply since those will fit into the G5's case with less modding than a standard ATX. If power becomes a problem in the future though, I'll probably swap it out for an ATX unit. 600W should cover my CPU and GPU needs for a good while, though.

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3 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

My plan is similar, I'm going to keep my X58 stuff to muck around with, since it won't be my main I can push it as far as I want and not worry about needing it stable for that night's gaming or something. Just haven't had the energy to fiddle with stuff lately (trying to overhaul my diet and start healthier habits and such) so thus why I'm probably moving to a 9900K for my main so I can just run it stock or at a light OC and have it 100% stable, then never mess with it again. Sucks to have random crashes 3 hours into a friday night gaming session or something because the OC isn't 100% stable yet. 

Its not good with a unstable overclock. I can only say that my OC is 100 % stable. X58 has never failed me. In fact i have al ready pushed my rig to its limits before crash for CPU as well as GPU. see benchmark below here.

https://imgur.com/a/KPz7JNP

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/2333033

 

For when i move on to a new pc. That will be Intel´s next HEDT platform or AMD threadripper. 3. Just wainting an see what they will have to offer. I dont wanna buy a intel CPU now cause they are still on 14 NM. I will at least wait until they can offer a die shrink and also one time on HEDT as X58 is, there is no return for me to a little platform again.

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1 minute ago, Intelfreak said:

Its not good with a unstable overclock. I can only say that my OC is 100 % stable. X58 has never failed me. In fact i have al ready pushed my rig to its limits before crash for CPU as well as GPU. see benchmark below here.

https://imgur.com/a/KPz7JNP

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/2333033

 

For when i move on to a new pc. That will be Intel´s next HEDT platform or AMD threadripper. 3. Just wainting an see what they will have to offer. I dont wanna buy a intel CPU now cause they are still on 14 NM. I will at least wait until they can offer a die shrink and also one time on HEDT as X58 is, there is no return for me to a little platform again.

Yeah, the main disadvantage of a 9900K is it's on the consumer platform. I don't even use all the features of HEDT tho, mostly just game, but I just like them better. IDK why but I do. Could go X299 but that's apparently oof for gaming, and I'd have to go used to afford it. 


 If you wanna discuss the X58 platform and get tips and advice: General X58 Xeon/i7 discussion. If you want to discuss old Star Wars games like Battlefront II and KOTOR, check out my thread: Anyone still playing old Star Wars games? 

 

Long live his RGBness, @Damascus! And Fractal Design/SeaSonic dude, @Ordinarily_Greater is awesome as well! Also the man who introduced me to the glorious XCMR, @WhisperingKnickers.

 

X99 rig:

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CPU: 5820K at 4.5-4.6Ghz, working on getting my OC 100% stable
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
Motherboard: EVGA Classified X99
Memory: 32GB (4x8GB) HyperX Predator 3200MHz DDR4
Storage: 120GB HyperX Savage SSD, 2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm HDDs
GPU: Radeon VII
Case: Corsair Air 540, Black
PSU: EVGA 1000W G3

X58 rig: 

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CPU: X5670 at 4.56GHz/1.5v for now, planning to push higher on that voltage

CPU Cooler: Heatkiller IV CPU block and custom loop with 360mm slim rad
Motherboard: EVGA Classified 4-Way SLI X58 motherboard
Memory: 24GB HyperX Savage DDR3 (Red). Running ~1600MHz 10-10-10-28 for now, it'll to 9-9-9-24 but I'm planning to push to 2000MHz, thus the looser timings. 

Storage: ADATA SU800 128GB SSD, HyperX Savage 120GB SSD
GPU: MSI Gaming X 1080 Ti 11G 
Case: Mountain Mods mobo tray, PSU mount off etsy, some rad mounting hardware and a board of plywood and such from Lowes. 
PSU: Corsair RM1000i

Laptop:

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Clevo P750TM1-G
Random Celeron, 8700K died so I gotta get my hands on an i5 8400

16GB 2400MHz DDR4

GTX 1070

250GB 960 Evo, 2TB Seagate Firecuda, 1TB Seagate Barracuda Pro

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

This is the exact reason I decided against X58 for this build. I had noticed that its age is really starting to show, and wanted something a little more modern.

 

Also I can grab a Xeon E5 + motherboard for 350-400 USD, so it's not like I'm spending that much more than say dual X-series and an SR-2 or whatever else carries dual 1366. I won't be needing dual CPUs anyway; if I can secure a good enough X99 board, that'll go up to a 2699v3 and 18 cores, so I'm not too fussed about multiprocessing.

 

Although it would be nice to keep dual CPUs in this case...maybe if I can source another G5 case I'll end up doing that.

 

On the bright side, my relatives said I could borrow their dremel next time I see them, so I'll end up making some progress a fair bit earlier than I thought. Hopefully I can get the case gutted and ready for the hardware I have in mind, then it'll just be a matter of sourcing everything else.

 

I also figured I'd go with an SFX power supply since those will fit into the G5's case with less modding than a standard ATX. If power becomes a problem in the future though, I'll probably swap it out for an ATX unit. 600W should cover my CPU and GPU needs for a good while, though.

Yeah i agree. X58 is begin to struggle in the newest games as well. Metro Exodus and Far Cry New Dawn seems to push the old CPU to far so that i get a bit to many lag spikes. X58 has had a good long run, but now time has obtained even mighty X58.

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1 minute ago, Intelfreak said:

Yeah i agree. X58 is begin to struggle in the newest games as well. Metro Exodus and Far Cry New Dawn seems to push the old CPU to far so that i get a bit to many lag spikes. X58 has had a good long run, but now time has obtained even mighty X58.

Time to upgrade to X79 :P

 

X99 has the best balance of modern architecture and price that I've really found(also performance is great), I might pair it with a 980Ti or 1080.

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2 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Yeah, the main disadvantage of a 9900K is it's on the consumer platform. I don't even use all the features of HEDT tho, mostly just game, but I just like them better. IDK why but I do. Could go X299 but that's apparently oof for gaming, and I'd have to go used to afford it. 

Yeah i can see your point. I also mostly just game, but for me there are only one way and that is HEDT even throw i might not need it right now, but i tend to keep my right for years lets 6 to 10 years, so i need a platform that can be build on to in the future like cpu´s with more cores. The little platform dosent offer cpu with more than 8 cores as it is now.

 

Also X58 has keep me going for so long because of all the features it has or had. Like 4 and 6 cores, USB 3.0 and sata 3 (the small platform back then, dit not offer that if i remember correct). HEDT simply gives me a better solution for future upgrades.

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2 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Time to upgrade to X79 :P

 

X99 has the best balance of modern architecture and price that I've really found(also performance is great), I might pair it with a 980Ti or 1080.

X99 is pretty swell, my 5820K keeps up pretty well with my Radeon VII. Want to yoink a 5960X or 6950X once prices come down though. 6950Xs still go for $700 (and there's a guy on there selling a 7900X and FTW K for $800), and 5960Xs hopped suddenly from $350 or so to $450. 


 If you wanna discuss the X58 platform and get tips and advice: General X58 Xeon/i7 discussion. If you want to discuss old Star Wars games like Battlefront II and KOTOR, check out my thread: Anyone still playing old Star Wars games? 

 

Long live his RGBness, @Damascus! And Fractal Design/SeaSonic dude, @Ordinarily_Greater is awesome as well! Also the man who introduced me to the glorious XCMR, @WhisperingKnickers.

 

X99 rig:

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CPU: 5820K at 4.5-4.6Ghz, working on getting my OC 100% stable
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
Motherboard: EVGA Classified X99
Memory: 32GB (4x8GB) HyperX Predator 3200MHz DDR4
Storage: 120GB HyperX Savage SSD, 2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm HDDs
GPU: Radeon VII
Case: Corsair Air 540, Black
PSU: EVGA 1000W G3

X58 rig: 

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CPU: X5670 at 4.56GHz/1.5v for now, planning to push higher on that voltage

CPU Cooler: Heatkiller IV CPU block and custom loop with 360mm slim rad
Motherboard: EVGA Classified 4-Way SLI X58 motherboard
Memory: 24GB HyperX Savage DDR3 (Red). Running ~1600MHz 10-10-10-28 for now, it'll to 9-9-9-24 but I'm planning to push to 2000MHz, thus the looser timings. 

Storage: ADATA SU800 128GB SSD, HyperX Savage 120GB SSD
GPU: MSI Gaming X 1080 Ti 11G 
Case: Mountain Mods mobo tray, PSU mount off etsy, some rad mounting hardware and a board of plywood and such from Lowes. 
PSU: Corsair RM1000i

Laptop:

Spoiler

Clevo P750TM1-G
Random Celeron, 8700K died so I gotta get my hands on an i5 8400

16GB 2400MHz DDR4

GTX 1070

250GB 960 Evo, 2TB Seagate Firecuda, 1TB Seagate Barracuda Pro

 

 

 

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Just now, Intelfreak said:

Yeah i can see your point. I also mostly just game, but for me there are only one way and that is HEDT even throw i might not need it right now, but i tend to keep my right for years lets 6 to 10 years, so i need a platform that can be build on to in the future like cpu´s with more cores. The little platform dosent offer cpu with more than 8 cores as it is now.

 

Also X58 has keep me going for so long because of all the features it has or had. Like 4 and 6 cores, USB 3.0 and sata 3 (the small platform back then, dit not offer that if i remember correct). HEDT simply gives me a better solution for future upgrades.

Mainstream also doesn't give me more than dual channel so my 4x8GB kit of DDR4 is just more stress on the IMC or whatever instead of an advantage in RAM bandwidth heavy games or tasks. Mebbe I should look into if a 7900X on a conservative OC can do 144Hz gaming fine or not, just to keep on the HEDT platforms. 


 If you wanna discuss the X58 platform and get tips and advice: General X58 Xeon/i7 discussion. If you want to discuss old Star Wars games like Battlefront II and KOTOR, check out my thread: Anyone still playing old Star Wars games? 

 

Long live his RGBness, @Damascus! And Fractal Design/SeaSonic dude, @Ordinarily_Greater is awesome as well! Also the man who introduced me to the glorious XCMR, @WhisperingKnickers.

 

X99 rig:

Spoiler

CPU: 5820K at 4.5-4.6Ghz, working on getting my OC 100% stable
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
Motherboard: EVGA Classified X99
Memory: 32GB (4x8GB) HyperX Predator 3200MHz DDR4
Storage: 120GB HyperX Savage SSD, 2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm HDDs
GPU: Radeon VII
Case: Corsair Air 540, Black
PSU: EVGA 1000W G3

X58 rig: 

Spoiler

CPU: X5670 at 4.56GHz/1.5v for now, planning to push higher on that voltage

CPU Cooler: Heatkiller IV CPU block and custom loop with 360mm slim rad
Motherboard: EVGA Classified 4-Way SLI X58 motherboard
Memory: 24GB HyperX Savage DDR3 (Red). Running ~1600MHz 10-10-10-28 for now, it'll to 9-9-9-24 but I'm planning to push to 2000MHz, thus the looser timings. 

Storage: ADATA SU800 128GB SSD, HyperX Savage 120GB SSD
GPU: MSI Gaming X 1080 Ti 11G 
Case: Mountain Mods mobo tray, PSU mount off etsy, some rad mounting hardware and a board of plywood and such from Lowes. 
PSU: Corsair RM1000i

Laptop:

Spoiler

Clevo P750TM1-G
Random Celeron, 8700K died so I gotta get my hands on an i5 8400

16GB 2400MHz DDR4

GTX 1070

250GB 960 Evo, 2TB Seagate Firecuda, 1TB Seagate Barracuda Pro

 

 

 

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