General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

[NoxiousOdor]

33 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

I removed them and swapped them with stock LGA1366 ones I pulled of other server boards so I could mount my Cooler Master V6 GTs. They came with a normal set in the box but most SR-2s don't come with those now, they've been lost. The ones that are usually on are the server type, thus I have a couple server coolers for my other SR-2 that only works with one CPU, not worth getting backplates for it since it's not fully working. 

How in the world do they come off? It has been a while since I've seen the back of my SR2 but I was pretty sure they were soldered on. That is really cool though that they used to come with multiple mounting options I didn't realize that.

 

Mine has the server mounts and I have been surprised with how many modern coolers are compatible. Both of my noctua air coolers worked and now I have two of the corsair h100i v2 and they fit ezpz too.

[Zando_]

13 hours ago, WhisperingKnickers said:

How in the world do they come off? It has been a while since I've seen the back of my SR2 but I was pretty sure they were soldered on. That is really cool though that they used to come with multiple mounting options I didn't realize that.

 

Mine has the server mounts and I have been surprised with how many modern coolers are compatible. Both of my noctua air coolers worked and now I have two of the corsair h100i v2 and they fit ezpz too.

Just take the four screws on the CPU clamp off, then that and the backplates come off. Then you stick new ones on and tighten it down.

[gregorysam]

Helloo can someone help me?  i have a ECS X58B-A ver 1.0 (i know its crap but i was 12 when i build my first pc i didnit know much)with i7 920 3.8 ghz ...welll i was thinking about buying a xeon x5675.

So i googleeddd it and found that  (Only new version X58B-A(V1.1) Support Intel Gulftown Series Processors) what do you think will i have any luck with it ?

[Zando_]

8 minutes ago, gregorysam said:

Helloo can someone help me?  i have a ECS X58B-A ver 1.0 (i know its crap but i was 12 when i build my first pc i didnit know much)with i7 920 3.8 ghz ...welll i was thinking about buying a xeon x5675.

So i googleeddd it and found that  (Only new version X58B-A(V1.1) Support Intel Gulftown Series Processors) what do you think will i have any luck with it ?

Well apparently Gulftown = Westmere-EP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulftown

 

And the 6 core Xeons and i7s are Westmere-EP so you'd be out of luck. 

[Intelfreak]

18 hours ago, Pasi123 said:

Have anyone else tried Cinebench R15 Extreme? You can get it from here.

Here is what my Xeon X5670 @ 4.32GHz got:

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Yeah i dit a round last night on my I7 980X @ 4.4 GHz

 

[bimmerman]

I'll try to give CB Extremely Extreme a run tonight or over the weekend.

[Crunchy Dragon]

Anybody know of any good dual socket 1366 server boards?

I'm starting to finalize plans for my server, and it just so happens that dual 1366 is required for what I need it to do.

 

I doubt I'd be able to fit an eATX board in my Proliant's case, so I need a server-specific motherboard.

[bimmerman]

1 hour ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Anybody know of any good dual socket 1366 server boards?

I'm starting to finalize plans for my server, and it just so happens that dual 1366 is required for what I need it to do.

 

I doubt I'd be able to fit an eATX board in my Proliant's case, so I need a server-specific motherboard.

Tyan and Supermicro make plenty depending on what your connectivity and expansion needs are. I bet the consumer motherboard manufacturers also make server boards.

[Crunchy Dragon]

3 minutes ago, bimmerman said:

Tyan and Supermicro make plenty depending on what your connectivity and expansion needs are. I bet the consumer motherboard manufacturers also make server boards.

I've seen a few Intel and Supermicro boards on Ebay when I was looking. I'm still considering those.

[Xa3phod]

 

[Slayer3032]

I really can't imagine how awful these setups must have performed for astronomical amounts of money compared to all the other cheap, fast quad cores of the time in the games available when the SR2 was new. This kind of hardware was held back with like 5870's and GTX 280's then benchmarked against something like Left 4 Dead where it's idea of multithreading was to add the option for it. Which then struggles to use more than 2-3 threads before usage can even be differentiated from idle. I don't think it was even included in the options menu at launch, or maybe L4D was the first game on the Source engine to have it in the menus.

 

I've been trying to tell people higher end, higher thread count stuff is still worth using and as games and software continue to be optimized and designed for efficient multithreading this hardware will actually function better than it did new. Doom is by far my favorite performing game, I wish he gave it far more screen time to show off it's incredible multithreading. 

[Pasi123]

40 minutes ago, Slayer3032 said:

I really can't imagine how awful these setups must have performed for astronomical amounts of money compared to all the other cheap, fast quad cores of the time in the games available when the SR2 was new. This kind of hardware was held back with like 5870's and GTX 280's then benchmarked against something like Left 4 Dead where it's idea of multithreading was to add the option for it. Which then struggles to use more than 2-3 threads before usage can even be differentiated from idle. I don't think it was even included in the options menu at launch, or maybe L4D was the first game on the Source engine to have it in the menus.

 

I've been trying to tell people higher end, higher thread count stuff is still worth using and as games and software continue to be optimized and designed for efficient multithreading this hardware will actually function better than it did new. Doom is by far my favorite performing game, I wish he gave it far more screen time to show off it's incredible multithreading. 

How about quad-sli GTX 480's? :D

 

https://www.legitreviews.com/evga-sr-2-motherboard-gets-a-custom-pc-case_1324

[Zando_]

Actually not that bad of a deal: 

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-Classified-SR-2-w-Dual-Xeon-X5690-24GB-RAM-2X-H80i-V2-Water-coolers/283231769889?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908103841%26meid%3D850c6328d8da4234aa050480ffa5bbf1%26pid%3D100227%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D7%26sd%3D153300443687%26itm%3D283231769889&_trksid=p2054502.c100227.m3827

 

6x4GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz DDR3

dual X5690s

EVGA SR-2

Dual H80i AIOs

[bimmerman]

24 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Actually not that bad of a deal: 

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-Classified-SR-2-w-Dual-Xeon-X5690-24GB-RAM-2X-H80i-V2-Water-coolers/283231769889?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908103841%26meid%3D850c6328d8da4234aa050480ffa5bbf1%26pid%3D100227%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D7%26sd%3D153300443687%26itm%3D283231769889&_trksid=p2054502.c100227.m3827

 

6x4GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz DDR3

dual X5690s

EVGA SR-2

Dual H80i AIOs

Yup, been watching that one for quite a while. Just need some free units of currency....

[Crunchy Dragon]

26 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Actually not that bad of a deal: 

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-Classified-SR-2-w-Dual-Xeon-X5690-24GB-RAM-2X-H80i-V2-Water-coolers/283231769889?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908103841%26meid%3D850c6328d8da4234aa050480ffa5bbf1%26pid%3D100227%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D7%26sd%3D153300443687%26itm%3D283231769889&_trksid=p2054502.c100227.m3827

 

6x4GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz DDR3

dual X5690s

EVGA SR-2

Dual H80i AIOs

I could sell my PC and buy that....

[Slayer3032]

13 hours ago, Pasi123 said:

How about quad-sli GTX 480's?

 

https://www.legitreviews.com/evga-sr-2-motherboard-gets-a-custom-pc-case_1324

I too wish that I could pop a 20A breaker by opening a single program just to get low 200's fps in L4D2!

 

 

[Xa3phod]

22 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

Actually not that bad of a deal: 

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-Classified-SR-2-w-Dual-Xeon-X5690-24GB-RAM-2X-H80i-V2-Water-coolers/283231769889?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908103841%26meid%3D850c6328d8da4234aa050480ffa5bbf1%26pid%3D100227%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D7%26sd%3D153300443687%26itm%3D283231769889&_trksid=p2054502.c100227.m3827

 

6x4GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz DDR3

dual X5690s

EVGA SR-2

Dual H80i AIOs

I am actually tempted, but I honestly have nothing to do with it that would be useful. It's just cool! I barely use my current X5690. I installed Linux on it to see how it games. So far,  Battle eye does not run in Proton/Steam for linux, so no Planetside 2

[Zando_]

4 minutes ago, Xa3phod said:

I am actually tempted, but I honestly have nothing to do with it that would be useful. It's just cool! I barely use my current X5690. I installed Linux on it to see how it games. So far,  Battle eye does not run in Proton/Steam for linux, so no Planetside 2

Same reason I don't use Linux, my main games' anti-cheat would get triggered and I'm afraid of getting banned in some of them. 

[Xa3phod]

1 hour ago, Zando Bob said:

Same reason I don't use Linux, my main games' anti-cheat would get triggered and I'm afraid of getting banned in some of them. 

Exactly. I actually Emailed BattleEye. Doubt if it will help, but if all my games played in Linux, I would dump Windows in a heartbeat.

[Zando_]

8 minutes ago, Xa3phod said:

Exactly. I actually Emailed BattleEye. Doubt if it will help, but if all my games played in Linux, I would dump Windows in a heartbeat.

Facts. Linux is just so much smoother to set up and use than Windows, even if you have to manually hunt some stuff down it ends up working much better. A lot lower performance impact too, and since I have an AMD GPU there'd be no problems with drivers. Just sadly it lacks support from pretty much every dev. 

 

And hmmmmmm.... think we should open this up to a general X series chipset thread? There was an X79/X99 one but it hasn't been replied to in over a year. Asking since I just got an EVGA X99 Classified and have an untested 5690X on the way I hope works (if not I should be able to sell it for parts and get back the $100 I paid). I do hope to get some X79 stuff at some point too, but I really should finish my X58 rigs first. 

[NoxiousOdor]

On 2/12/2019 at 12:15 PM, Crunchy Dragon said:

Anybody know of any good dual socket 1366 server boards?

I'm starting to finalize plans for my server, and it just so happens that dual 1366 is required for what I need it to do.

 

I doubt I'd be able to fit an eATX board in my Proliant's case, so I need a server-specific motherboard.

 

On 2/12/2019 at 1:20 PM, Crunchy Dragon said:

I've seen a few Intel and Supermicro boards on Ebay when I was looking. I'm still considering those.

I have a dual socket x58 supermicro board but it is eeatx which is a tad bigger than eatx. The upside is that it has two low end xeons and two coolers already.

[Crunchy Dragon]

33 minutes ago, WhisperingKnickers said:

I have a dual socket x58 supermicro board but it is eeatx which is a tad bigger than eatx. The upside is that it has two low end xeons and two coolers already.

I can fit anything as long as a standard ATX.

 

Anything bigger has to extend towards the front of the case, rather than the bottom.

[Dreadnought]

I found this combo, Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R + i7 930 for $100. I'm planning to swap the cpu to Xeon X5650/5670/5675, and OC it to 4+GHz. Is it a good mobo for overclocking?

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-X58A-UD3R-rev-20#ov

[Crunchy Dragon]

4 hours ago, Dreadnought IX said:

I found this combo, Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R + i7 930 for $100. I'm planning to swap the cpu to Xeon X5650/5670/5675, and OC it to 4+GHz. Is it a good mobo for overclocking?

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-X58A-UD3R-rev-20#ov

Gigabyte tends to make good boards. I've not heard of too many problems overclocking on them.

 

This is actually the same model Linus and Dmitri had in Scrapyard Wars 6, so that's also cool.

[Zando_]

14 minutes ago, vinyldash303 said:

Hello X58 thread! I recently scored most of an X58 sytem. 

 

This is what appears to be an X58 Pro-e from MSI. Oddly enough it came out of a medical computer but I won’t be elaborating on that any further. 

 

What I got:

i7 950

6GB of 1066 DDR3 in tripple channel

MSI X58-Pro E

MSI 450 GTS

 

What I want know is if I can do is slap an i7 970 Gulftown into this board. Its clocked a bit slower but it would give me two more cores. Maybe with a bios update? I want to turn the clocks up with this system and get some more performance out of it. Don’t have a damn clue what I’m going to use it for yet. 

 

I’d also like to know if the W3690 is overclockable with just fiddling with the multiplier. I like the 950 thats in there right now but after having my 3960X in my main system for so long I want that 6 core life for this system too. 

 

Planning on doing a mini budget build with it tomorrow and getting it off the test bench. 

 

In my experience the multiplier is usually maxed by default, I use the BLCK from there. I'm running an i7 950 at 1.4v/3.9GHz in my EVGA Classified board right now, my W3670 gets here today and I plan to OC that (can't use X series xeons which I have a bunch of because it's a v1.0 board, not 1.1 or higher). So I can let you know how the 6 core W series Xeons go tonight. And I'd update the BIOS for sure, I always do that on my boards to make sure I'll run into the least compatibility issues possible. 

 

What cooler are you planning to use btw, and how far do you want to push it? You can safely run 1.4v, 1.45 if you're brave, and most 6 cores can hit 4.5Ghz in that voltage range, IIRC some do it lower. You'll need a beefy cooler though. I have a Gammax 400 with two Noctua Industrial 2000rpm fans sandwiching it, and it'll keep my quad core around 80 or below in stress tests, 76C or so max in gaming.