General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

[Ground]

https://valid.x86.fr/85k5ui

 

 

[Zando_]

3 minutes ago, Ground said:

https://valid.x86.fr/85k5ui

 

 

Nice!

[Slayer3032]

Got a P6T from a buddy with 12gb of ram and an i7-930, added in my "nice" G.Skill Pi series 6gb kit that only manages 1600mhz and my old lapped X5660. I'll probably remove the video card from it at some point soon but man is it an upgrade to my spare computer that had a Phenom II quad that was a good overclocker. Should make for a pretty good home server.

 

Was contemplating overclocking it but I figured I probably wouldn't want to since the stock voltage curve from 0.92 to 1.1 doesn't seem too bad, it'll do stock settings at 1v though. I don't think it would benefit from a fixed voltage since it's going to idle most of the time and it doesn't even crack 45c in Cinebench. I think it's gonna need a new PSU and a set of nice fans now though. Now I just have to get it setup and jam all my disks into it, got a couple days until a SM951 arrives that should support AHCI too.

 

 

[r2724r16]

3 minutes ago, Slayer3032 said:

 

Any reason for why you didn't put the graphics card in the topmost x16 slot?

 

Also, what is that mouse on the right side of the picture. I used to have one of those a long time ago.

[Slayer3032]

It blocks and bends the sata ports, it shouldn't need a display out when I'm finished with it so I'll probably just sell the R9 280 since rx 570's were like $99.99 new and there's a ton of great used cards around there. I'd love to get some sort of low power card for it since there's no igpu but meh those are more expensive than high end cards.

 

It's just a microsoft mouse, I think they're usually referred to as a MWO 1.1A. Picked it up at the e-recycling place like 6-7 years ago out of the $5 bin, looked brand new. It's really nice for a spare/backup but it's locked to like 400dpi or something like that. I think it's one of these.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-Wheel-Mouse-Black-3-Button-Optical-1-1A-USB-PS-2-Compatible-X802382/153420559555

[Slayer3032]

Alright X58 NVMe guys, I scored a SM951 MZ-HPV 128gb and a Startech adapter off ebay. It doesn't say AHCI explicitly on the sticker like some do and according to Anandtech's review of the SM951 it is visually the NVMe model. I'd be disappointed with the purchase if I hadn't pretty much stole it for a couple bucks over the price of the adapter on Amazon.

 

It's confusing though because whoever sold the drive left a fresh install of Windows 10 that actually attempted to boot but the screen was black and the cursor was stuck in the top left. I unfortunately wiped the drive directly after and windows repeatedly refused to install to the drive and instead chose to break the windows install from another drive by installing 9gb of windows file to the SM951 and installing the boot partition elsewhere. It attempts to boot but doesn't exactly come up in bios but rather falls invisibly under the "Bootable Add-In Cards" option.

 

I'm assuming it's time to setup Duet and go for it? Or am I doing something incorrectly? Oh and any tips on usb drives for boot speeds? I wouldn't mind paying like $10 for a quicker smaller usb drive but I doubt anyone else is out there demanding smaller, faster flash drives.

 

[MaratM]

14 hours ago, Slayer3032 said:

Alright X58 NVMe guys, I scored a SM951 MZ-HPV 128gb and a Startech adapter off ebay. It doesn't say AHCI explicitly on the sticker like some do and according to Anandtech's review of the SM951 it is visually the NVMe model.

I’ve got the same p6t as you and i’m running 950pro. I’ll check my settings for ide and ahci and post screens of bios options you have to chose to make it work (probably tomorrow), i have a strange feeling that 951 might have legacy bios support same as 950pro.

[Slayer3032]

32 minutes ago, MaratM said:

I’ve got the same p6t as you and i’m running 950pro. I’ll check my settings for ide and ahci and post screens of bios options you have to chose to make it work (probably tomorrow), i have a strange feeling that 951 might have legacy bios support same as 950pro.

I should probably specify the nvme is in my personal build, not the spare parts home server I just built. It's on a GA-X58A-UD5 Rev.1, X5675, 24gb of ECC Micron Mac Pro memory(won't even post at stock settings lol) and a GTX 1080.

 

The P6T build is basically a home for disks that were in my computer, Plex/NAS, ect. I still have a WD Black 2TB in here but that's where most of my games have been installed and I'll need a larger ssd before I can remove the loudest disk. We will see how much I really need when I fully finish moving about all my files though. I'm not sure about sticking it in the 5 1/4 bay though, I think it's twice as loud after that and echos throughout the now empty case but it looks nice...

[Intelfreak]

16 hours ago, Slayer3032 said:

Alright X58 NVMe guys, I scored a SM951 MZ-HPV 128gb and a Startech adapter off ebay. It doesn't say AHCI explicitly on the sticker like some do and according to Anandtech's review of the SM951 it is visually the NVMe model. I'd be disappointed with the purchase if I hadn't pretty much stole it for a couple bucks over the price of the adapter on Amazon.

 

It's confusing though because whoever sold the drive left a fresh install of Windows 10 that actually attempted to boot but the screen was black and the cursor was stuck in the top left. I unfortunately wiped the drive directly after and windows repeatedly refused to install to the drive and instead chose to break the windows install from another drive by installing 9gb of windows file to the SM951 and installing the boot partition elsewhere. It attempts to boot but doesn't exactly come up in bios but rather falls invisibly under the "Bootable Add-In Cards" option.

 

I'm assuming it's time to setup Duet and go for it? Or am I doing something incorrectly? Oh and any tips on usb drives for boot speeds? I wouldn't mind paying like $10 for a quicker smaller usb drive but I doubt anyone else is out there demanding smaller, faster flash drives.

 

That is not gonna work right out of box. For that to work, you need Samsung 950 PRO cause that is more or less the only true M.2 NVMe SSD that has Legacy mode build in and i have a 950 PRO in my pc. Legacy mode is also known as a OPT-rom. Also 950 PRO is only working on my Asus board with AHCI mode. Raid and IDE is a no go for me.

 

For any other M.2 NVMe SSD to work on X58. You either need a bios with modded NVMe support or third party software like Duet.

 

You can try this guide out on your gigabyte board all throw this guide is done on a asus board. But it still might work. That is my best solution for you.

https://audiocricket.com/2016/12/31/booting-samsung-sm961-on-asus-p6t-se-mainboard/

[Slayer3032]

Some of the SM951's are compatible with AHCI booting, specifically the ones made for Apple made for Mac Pro's as well as some other OEM's with other workstations. The problem is that they're outrageously expensive. Anandtech's article that I linked shows both side by side and says that they have different part numbers showing the MZ-HPV and MZ-VPV with the former being AHCI bootable and the later being NVMe/UEFI. You'll see in this listing that most MZ-HPV drives are the AHCI compatible version. Some have AHCI on the label, some NVMe, some have neither and it seems like those can be either..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-SM951-512GB-AHCI-M-2-SSD-MZ-HPV512HDGL-Mac-Pro-Mac-Pro-Boot-Drive-285/192826079609

 

Anyways, I tried out the USB tool over on Win-Raid. I think start to finish aside from unhooking my sata devices and making a Windows USB it took like 15 minutes to get into windows. It even doesn't add any time to my boot overall either since I pulled other drives from my system. No idea why I fussed so much over getting something that was directly bootable. Oh well, $26.50 was still an amazing deal for any high endurance MLC ssd.

[Terabyte_272]

Hello everyone just joined the x58 platform! Just wondering what it would take to get a stable oc of an i7 960 to 4ghz. Rn i have it at 3.8 at 1.28v (bios said 1.3) ((yes I am getting an x5675)) I got this cpu and mobo as ewaste. Thanks for any help

[Sam Wiltshire]

Rocking 2 x X5670 here in a home server.

 

 

[Crunchy Dragon]

52 minutes ago, Terabyte_272 said:

Hello everyone just joined the x58 platform! Just wondering what it would take to get a stable oc of an i7 960 to 4ghz. Rn i have it at 3.8 at 1.28v (bios said 1.3) ((yes I am getting an x5675)) I got this cpu and mobo as ewaste. Thanks for any help

For X58 chips, it usually takes closer to 1.4v to push them all the way to 4Ghz from what I've seen.

[Terabyte_272]

8 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

For X58 chips, it usually takes closer to 1.4v to push them all the way to 4Ghz from what I've seen.

Really? .1 extra? Doesn’t that decease the life span? 1.3-1.4 is quite the jump

 

[Zando_]

3 hours ago, Terabyte_272 said:

Hello everyone just joined the x58 platform! Just wondering what it would take to get a stable oc of an i7 960 to 4ghz. Rn i have it at 3.8 at 1.28v (bios said 1.3) ((yes I am getting an x5675)) I got this cpu and mobo as ewaste. Thanks for any help

1.35-1.4 usually gets a 32nm chip to 4-4.2, but you're running 45nm. Gonna need more voltage and it will run really hot, I think at 1.4v or so my 950 can barely get 3.9Ghz stable. You can push pretty nasty voltages easily though, I run my X5670 at 4.5Ghz/1.45v, and other guys have pushed more with not much issue. You can snag X5650s and X5670s and such for pretty cheap if you wanna go ham with the voltage and have the cooling capacity, it takes a lot to cook these chips. You're usually limited by what your cooling setup can handle, at least in my experience. And the bin of the CPU itself ofc. As fair as daily voltages, wouldn't push over 1.45v if it's your main rig and you need to to be dependable though, better to stay safe. 4.2Ghz at around 1.4v is usually fine on an X5675 though, those and the X5690 are the best bins in general. 

[Pasi123]

I have my X5670 @ 4.32GHz with 1.35v (CPU-Z says 1.344v). I had it at 4.44GHz with 1.375v or something but the temps were too high and it wasn't 100% stable.

[Terabyte_272]

1 hour ago, Zando Bob said:

1.35-1.4 usually gets a 32nm chip to 4-4.2, but you're running 45nm. Gonna need more voltage and it will run really hot, I think at 1.4v or so my 950 can barely get 3.9Ghz stable. You can push pretty nasty voltages easily though, I run my X5670 at 4.5Ghz/1.45v, and other guys have pushed more with not much issue. You can snag X5650s and X5670s and such for pretty cheap if you wanna go ham with the voltage and have the cooling capacity, it takes a lot to cook these chips. You're usually limited by what your cooling setup can handle, at least in my experience. And the bin of the CPU itself ofc. As fair as daily voltages, wouldn't push over 1.45v if it's your main rig and you need to to be dependable though, better to stay safe. 4.2Ghz at around 1.4v is usually fine on an X5675 though, those and the X5690 are the best bins in general. 

Thanks for responding. I will try 1.4v at 4ghz first but im just surprised that i can run 1.28v at 3.8 ghz but I have to jump 0.12v just for 200mhz! Thanks for the incite I will be getting a x5675 soon anyway (~50$ is so good for one) 

[Zando_]

Just now, Terabyte_272 said:

Thanks for responding. I will try 1.4v at 4ghz first but im just surprised that i can run 1.28v at 3.8 ghz but I have to jump 0.12v just for 200mhz! Thanks for the incite I will be getting a x5675 soon anyway (~50$ is so good for one) 

May not have to. Put it to 1.4v to see if your chip even does 4GHz at a reasonable voltage, then drop the voltage in small increments until it's unstable.

[bimmerman]

Highest I ever tried with my X5675 was 4.7ghz at 1.39V, resulting in ~68C under load. Normally run 4.5 @ 1.32V for lower temps, as performance difference is imperceptible.

 

I think my QPI voltage is also 1.32-1.35, don't exactly remember.

 

My i7-950 wouldn't do 4GHz stable for long, and took a crap ton of volts. The 45nm chips aren't nearly as good for OC as the 32nm.

[bimmerman]

also, y'all with SR-2s: https://www.ebay.com/itm/MIPS-EVGA-Classified-SR-2-Set-Limited-Edition-Full-Coverage-Waterblocks/273807345776?hash=item3fc0308870:g:CNYAAOSwHtNcs9X4&frcectupt=true

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, bimmerman said:

also, y'all with SR-2s: https://www.ebay.com/itm/MIPS-EVGA-Classified-SR-2-Set-Limited-Edition-Full-Coverage-Waterblocks/273807345776?hash=item3fc0308870:g:CNYAAOSwHtNcs9X4&frcectupt=true

thanks for reminding me I need to actually buy @WhisperingKnickers's off him, lol

[NoxiousOdor]

45 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

thanks for reminding me I need to actually buy @WhisperingKnickers's off him, lol

Oh yeah, I'll send you a message on discord

[Terabyte_272]

19 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

May not have to. Put it to 1.4v to see if your chip even does 4GHz at a reasonable voltage, then drop the voltage in small increments until it's unstable.

After some tweaking i got my i7 960 to 4ghz at 1.32v stable

[Terabyte_272]

Hello im back again with an issue. My GA-X58-USB3 mobo does not detect ram in the b channel i have sprayed out the slot out with compressed air and tested all the ram in another build. I sprayed the cpu socket out aswell and checked for bent pins even upped Qpi voltage in the bios and defaulted the bios. Finally i changed my ram from 1600 to 1066 but none of this worked but I would get a proper boot into windows just one 4gb stick not being detected so if anyone knows any remedy's please hit me up.

[r2724r16]

9 hours ago, Terabyte_272 said:

one 4gb stick not being detected

Had a similar issue about a week ago.

 

If your motherboard or case has a reset button, shut down your system, spam the reset button 5 or 6 times, then turn on your system.