General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

[Intelfreak]

Are us that dosent have a Xeon but a I7 X58 system alowed to join in?

[Ground]

2 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

Are us that dosent have a Xeon but a I7 X58 system alowed to join in?

Nobody will stop you

I would recommend getting one if you don't already have a 6 core

[Intelfreak]

Just now, Ground said:

Nobody will stop you

I would recommend getting one if you don't already have a 6 core

 

I do have a 6 core I7. Swapped out my old I7 920 with first gen mobo to a I7 980X with a second gen X58 mobo. A really nice CPU. Got that I7 980X in bundle for a really great price, Else i would have ended up with a 6 core xeon.

 

Alright my rig comming up. in another post.

[dexT]

56 minutes ago, Ground said:

Well, the store where I wanted to buy some thermal paste is out of it. Guess I'll have to order it...

The 65g tube of MX-2 is the best deal. $26 USD here. Working out fine with phase or dry ice even.

[Ground]

7 minutes ago, dexT said:

The 65g tube of MX-2 is the best deal. $26 USD here. Working out fine with phase or dry ice even.

I'll just order the 30g one, I'm not changing CPUs that often

[Intelfreak]

Here is my pride and joy of a X58 system. Not Xeon, but i have no complains.

 

old system whas. Some of the hardware is not ride down here cause that will come in my current setup lower down.

 

I7 920 DO @ 4.1 GHz for 24/7 use and for bench up to 4.4 GHz.

Thermalright ultra 120 extreme CPU cooler with 2 x silverstone FM121 120 fans + Artic silver 5 cooling paste.

Asus Rampage 2 Extreme motherboard (first gen X58 mobo)

2 x GTX 970 SLI

 

 

Current system.

 

I7 980X @ 4.3 GHz 24/7 and for benchmark or if more power is needed for short time up to 4.77 GHz.

Noctua NH-D14 cpu cooler with 3 x silverstone FM121 120 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut cooling paste

Asus P6X58D Premium motheboard (second gen X58 mobo)

12 GB Corsair 1600 MHz DDR3 triple channel ram

EVGA Geforce gtx 1080 ti sc2 gaming

2 x Samsung 950 PRO 256 GB M.2 NVMe SSD for OS/Uplay games + 2 x Aquacomputer kryo M.2 evo PCIe 3.0 x4 adapter

Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD for steam games

Crucial MX300 275 GB SSD for Origin games

Crucial M4 64 GB SSD for older games.

WD caviar black 1 TB + WD AV-GP 2 TB HDD for backup and any other files like music. Life is just to short for OS/games on a harddrive now a days.

thermaltake toughpower 1500 WATT PSU

Antec twelve hundred case

Windows 10 PRO bits.

 

 

cable management is not the prettiest (this old case is not well designet for great cable management in mind), but the performence is there nothing wrong with.

 

[Zando_]

1 hour ago, Intelfreak said:

Are us that dosent have a Xeon but a I7 X58 system alowed to join in?

 

1 hour ago, Ground said:

Nobody will stop you

I would recommend getting one if you don't already have a 6 core

This^^^

 

Also, X58 i7s are the same as their Xeon counterparts, just they include an iGPU. So i7 = Xeon, at least for this platform. Welcome aboard! 

 

And awesome system! What cooler is that? I know @WhisperingKnickers has been looking for a massive cooler. I think he wants the Noctua ones tho. 

[Intelfreak]

4 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

 

This^^^

 

Also, X58 i7s are the same as their Xeon counterparts, just they include an iGPU. So i7 = Xeon, at least for this platform. Welcome aboard! 

X58 I7 does not have a build in GPU. Dosent matter if its bloomfield or gluftown. Intels big sockets I7 CPU's has never had a build in GPU, only the small sockets has it like LGA 1155.

 

yes I7/Xeon on X58 is the same, the only difference is that Xeon parts has a second QPI-link so it can work together with another CPU. On I7 that QPI-link is deaktivated on the die.

 

 and thanks.

 

9 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

 

And awesome system! What cooler is that? I know @WhisperingKnickers has been looking for a massive cooler. I think he wants the Noctua ones tho. 

The cpu cooler is an Noctua NH-D14 but with other fans than the originals. I chose other fans for even better cooling performance under benchmark run.

[Ground]

12 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

X58 I7 does not have a build in GPU. Dosent matter if its bloomfield or gluftown. Intels big sockets I7 CPU's has never had a build in GPU, only the small sockets has it like LGA 1155.

Well, bloomfield doesn't overclock as high as Westmere/Gulftown. The jump to 32nm made a decent difference there. 

[Intelfreak]

1 minute ago, Ground said:

Well, bloomfield doesn't overclock as high as Westmere/Gulftown. The jump to 32nm made a decent difference there. 

I can only agreed to that. That is also what i concluded after going from I7 920 to I7 980X. That I7 920 i had also ran significantly hotter that that I7 980X i have now.

That I7 920 i had cut not go much over 4.4 Ghz before it crash while that I7 980X happily runs up til 4.77 GHz i have tested so far. Cant go higher for now because of cooling.

 

But my friend had back in the days of X58 a water cooled I7 980X that cut do 5 GHz.

 

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

I can only agreed to that. That is also what i concluded after going from I7 920 to I7 980X. That I7 920 i had also ran significantly hotter that that I7 980X i have now.

That I7 920 i had cut not go much over 4.4 Ghz before it crash while that I7 980X happily runs up til 4.77 GHz i have tested so far. Cant go higher for now because of cooling.

 

But my friend had back in the days of X58 a water cooled I7 980X that cut do 5 GHz.

 

Yeah, I think with many X58 Xeons and such you can get 5+GHz on water (hehehe, 5+GHz on 6c/12t would be dope). 

[Intelfreak]

1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

Yeah, I think with many X58 Xeons and such you can get 5+GHz on water (hehehe, 5+GHz on 6c/12t would be dope). 

Yeah i dont think thats impossible. It just depends on how much voltage is needed. I know Intels max reccomended is 1.35 volts and that at 1.6 volts a X58 32 NM cpu is in serious risk of a fast death. I remember some friends played around with some 32 Nm i7 CPU's on LN2/dry ice and they ran them at 1.6 volts+ and that killed some of them before they cut finish a benchmark run.

 

Thats why i have set a apselute max of 1.53 volt for my CPU and only for a short time for benchmark. for normal use i back down to 4.3 GHz at 1.35 volt, but for when i need more power i go to 1.45 volts and 4.55 GHz. Every thing above that is benchmark only, cause temp is then hitting the danger zone of 90 C+.

[dexT]

What RAM are people using? I've got Dominator GT 1866 C7 Ver2.1 using the rare Elpida Hyper ICs. Only going to run 3 or 1 sticks depending on the bench but have 6 to bin 

[Intelfreak]

1 minute ago, dexT said:

What RAM are people using? I've got Dominator GT 1866 C7 Ver2.1 using the rare Elpida Hyper ICs. Only going to run 3 or 1 sticks depending on the bench but have 6 to bin 

Im just using some plain standart ram modules Corsair XMS3, Had to use low profile memory cause of my big cpu cooler.

 

[Zando_]

3 minutes ago, dexT said:

What RAM are people using? I've got Dominator GT 1866 C7 Ver2.1 using the rare Elpida Hyper ICs. Only going to run 3 or 1 sticks depending on the bench but have 6 to bin 

 

Noice RAM! I have 8GB Crucial Ballistix Sport, 8GB ADATA XPG V1.0, and 16GB HyperX Savage RAM. 

[NoxiousOdor]

55 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

The cpu cooler is an Noctua NH-D14 but with other fans than the originals. I chose other fans for even better cooling performance under benchmark run.

That is the one I want to get haha I have it bookmarked but I havent bought it yet.

 

That is funny that you noticed it @Zando Bob, that is the exact one I am planning to get

[dexT]

I was thinking of selling a triple kit before I got the X58 board and still might, will post here first if I do.

 

These and sticks with Hypers are some of the best modules for x58/48 and p45/55 that OC super high with really tight timings, as good as the Dom GTX in some cases. Better than the 2000 C8 GT as those won't run C7 sometimes but 1866 C7 sticks will run 2000 C7.

[NoxiousOdor]

2 minutes ago, dexT said:

I was thinking of selling a triple kit before I got the X58 board and still might, will post here first if I do.

 

These and sticks with Hypers are some of the best modules for x58/48 and p45/55 that OC super high with really tight timings, as good as the Dom GTX in some cases. Better than the 2000 C8 GT as those won't run C7 sometimes but 1866 C7 sticks will run 2000 C7.

If you do you should let me know, I am i the market for ram

[Zando_]

3 minutes ago, dexT said:

I was thinking of selling a triple kit before I got the X58 board and still might, will post here first if I do.

 

These and sticks with Hypers are some of the best modules for x58/48 and p45/55 that OC super high with really tight timings, as good as the Dom GTX in some cases. Better than the 2000 C8 GT as those won't run C7 sometimes but 1866 C7 sticks will run 2000 C7.

 

Just now, WhisperingKnickers said:

If you do you should let me know, I am i the market for ram

Me too. So let me know first so I can buy them all muahahahahahaha!

[dexT]

3 minutes ago, WhisperingKnickers said:

If you do you should let me know, I am i the market for ram

 

2 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

 

Me too. So let me know first so I can buy them all muahahahahahaha!

These are 2GB each modules so not the best for a modern daily driver but they are really fast esp on X58. 

 

Dominator GT Ver2.1 are rare and sought after for benchmarking so these come with a price premium.

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, dexT said:

 

These are 2GB each modules so not the best for a modern daily driver but they are really fast esp on X58. 

 

Dominator GT Ver2.1 are rare and sought after for benchmarking so these come with a price premium.

Ooooo... RIP. Me wants high capacity pretty ones. Is overclocked RAM actually useful on X58? Or is it just a nice to have?

[Ground]

1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

Ooooo... RIP. Me wants high capacity pretty ones. Is overclocked RAM actually useful on X58? Or is it just a nice to have?

Its useful for reaching higher BCLK speeds. I think I'm limited going much higher with my 1333 MHz DIMMs now... I just placed a bid on a triple channel kit with 3 Corsair Dominator DIMMs (not the crazy ones though, just 1600 CL8s), lets see if I get it. Only bidding a couple euros though, as I don't exactly need them...

[dexT]

23 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Ooooo... RIP. Me wants high capacity pretty ones. Is overclocked RAM actually useful on X58? Or is it just a nice to have?

If running benchmarks competitively fast RAM is very important. Compare my score and speed with the others and look at how the score gap scales between 1st - 2nd - 3rd and their respective clock speeds(I'm knock BTW) http://hwbot.org/benchmark/hwbot_x265_benchmark_-_1080p/rankings?hardwareTypeId=processor_1652&cores=2#start=0#interval=20

 

I know how to tweak an OS and benchmark but I blew those people out of the water completely.

[Pasi123]

51 minutes ago, dexT said:

What RAM are people using? I've got Dominator GT 1866 C7 Ver2.1 using the rare Elpida Hyper ICs. Only going to run 3 or 1 sticks depending on the bench but have 6 to bin 

4x 2GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600MHz

And 2x 4GB Kingston DDR3 ECC 1333MHz (I paid 150€ for those two stick back in 2013...)

[Glorious_LDR92]

I have an Asus P6-X58D-E motherboard and am looking for an upgrade. I have a Core i7 950 right now that has been working fine for the most part. But for work I am going to be doing more video editing, and I'm just getting into streaming when I play games(just as a hobby, nothing serious at all). The streaming is more so I can share video easier with my friends. I'm asking here, because  I've come across some very tantalizing deals for the Xeon X5680.

1. Is it even possible or worth while? 

2. Do I need to change my RAM?

3. If I do go forward with this, is there a noticeable difference? I'd be using Adobe Premier for the editing. 

4. Would I need to change my cooling solution? I have a Corsair AIO H50

 

Lastly, I'm like the last person on earth to join the forums I feel like, so hi. I like cats, videogames and computers.