General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

[Slayer3032]

1 hour ago, Zando Bob said:

It's thermaltake 

I had a Thermaltake Toughpower 850w for like 8 years in my X58 build after "liquid damage" took out my psu and my top and rear fans in my Antec 900. It was used and free, think it was made in like 2008. I don't know, it even made me $20 after I got my Seasonic Focus+'s. That Toughpower was fairly high end when it came out though if I recall. The original PSU in my current build was a replacement for a Ultra psu that was chrome, had a window and was UV with clear UV cables that literally caught on fire and tried to take out my Q6600 build.

 

I don't buy cheap psus anymore, it's either going to be used and free with something else or something with a decent warranty and manufactured by a reputable brand. I have enough garbage like a couple Thermaltake TR2's still kicking around in working systems that I have to compensate for.

[Guest]

31 minutes ago, Slayer3032 said:

I had a Thermaltake Toughpower 850w for like 8 years in my X58 build after "liquid damage" took out my psu and my top and rear fans in my Antec 900. It was used and free, think it was made in like 2008. I don't know, it even made me $20 after I got my Seasonic Focus+'s. That Toughpower was fairly high end when it came out though if I recall. The original PSU in my current build was a replacement for a Ultra psu that was chrome, had a window and was UV with clear UV cables that literally caught on fire and tried to take out my Q6600 build.

 

I don't buy cheap psus anymore, it's either going to be used and free with something else or something with a decent warranty and manufactured by a reputable brand. I have enough garbage like a couple Thermaltake TR2's still kicking around in working systems that I have to compensate for.

My 11 year old Antec 850w CP series is powering my 8700K, Crosshair Maximus Hero and 2 RTX 2060 Gpus 2 SSDs 2 HDDs and a 1.6 amp Delta. These are nothing compared to what I have run off it in the past. lol. Not replacing until it dies. 

[the pudding]

Ahhhh that's better, just an E5 1603 for now but a friend of mine offered me a 3960X for 50 quid so i'll be going for that 

[GrockleTD]

2 hours ago, the pudding said:

Ahhhh that's better, just an E5 1603 for now but a friend of mine offered me a 3960X for 50 quid so i'll be going for that 

OHMYGURD FOREARM REVEAL!!!!

[the pudding]

47 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

OHMYGURD FOREARM REVEAL!!!!

you know, you're not the first person to say this already, I also got an "ayyy, door reveal!"  but this is one of my good arms, the other two aren't quite as nice 

[toasty99]

I've got a QS Xeon 1660v3 doing 4.57 ghz after remounting my cooler a bit better. It's taking 1.48 volts to do that unfortunately. 

 

I've noticed throughout the time with this CPU that core 2 runs noticeably hotter than every other core. I've replicated this at idle, load, and with a different cooler. I'm positive it's not a mounting problem. 

 

I doubt I can fix it but I'd like to see if anyone else has had a similar issue with their 8 cores x99 chips. I really think that core is hurting the overclocking ability some and I'm definitely running the fans a bit harder for it. 

[Zando_]

1 hour ago, toasty99 said:

I've got a QS Xeon 1660v3 doing 4.57 ghz after remounting my cooler a bit better. It's taking 1.48 volts to do that unfortunately. 

That’s likely going to degrade the chip pretty quickly. What input voltage are you running? 1.35v vCore/2.1v Input Voltage is safe max for daily use on these chips. If you can’t hit 4.5 at that, I’d highly recommend just dropping clocks. 4.5 an onwards is diminishing returns anyways, you can usually run these chips much, much lower at 4.2. My 5820K would do 4.5 at 1.35v, but 4.2 at 1.2v, little difference in performance (especially if you’re pushing your uncore to 3.6-3.7, higher if you have an OC socket equipped board). 
 

1 hour ago, toasty99 said:

I've noticed throughout the time with this CPU that core 2 runs noticeably hotter than every other core. I've replicated this at idle, load, and with a different cooler. I'm positive it's not a mounting problem. 

 

I doubt I can fix it but I'd like to see if anyone else has had a similar issue with their 8 cores x99 chips. I really think that core is hurting the overclocking ability some and I'm definitely running the fans a bit harder for it. 

 What are your temps like? I can check next time I have my 5960X rig running, IIRC all the cores stay within a few degrees of each other. 

[Crunchy Dragon]

7 hours ago, the pudding said:

Ahhhh that's better, just an E5 1603 for now but a friend of mine offered me a 3960X for 50 quid so i'll be going for that

Those are some serious heatsinks.

[Pasi123]

On 3/24/2020 at 11:28 PM, Zando Bob said:

Those CB15 scores are noice! Is that before or after the spectre/meltdown stuff? I disabled those mitigations in the registry using InSpectre, didn't seem to make much of a difference tho. 

 

[svmlegacy]

13 hours ago, the pudding said:

Ahhhh that's better, just an E5 1603 for now but a friend of mine offered me a 3960X for 50 quid so i'll be going for that 

 

Can I just say that's an absolutely gorgeous motherboard?

[bimmerman]

IT LIVES IN ITS HOME

 

Yall want to see some disappointing stock performance?

 

SR-2 + 2x X5675 + 2x R9 290. Apparently my HD5870 has given up the ghost so I am down a GPU.

 

These results are exactly why overclocking the nuts off of X58 (and 5520 @Zando Bob) is needed to not be crap nowadays.

 

 

 

 

[Slayer3032]

On the topic of overclocking the nuts off X58, today I've fallen so much more back in love with it since playing Red Dead 2 and it being disappointing at 1440p.

 

I was playing My Summer Car with some buddies and we've been streaming our games to each other, another buddy got on and wanted me to play some Destiny 2 for a bit. Without realizing I booted it up with the stream and idle game in the background and still managed to be getting 115fps~ at ultra/high settings in 1440p. Didn't notice any frame drops or stuttering which was really amazing since that usually happens when I open a couple games at once. I'm like a month or two over 10 hard years of ownership on this board now.

 

It's crazy how well these cpus can do when given a few decently optimized tasks and enough gpu let it really shine.

[Zando_]

Overclocking defo needed lol. At 4.6 my single CPU will pull 1040cb, back at 4.4 with slower RAM it’s doing 960cb or so. Will be interesting to see what dual CPUs do when they’re above 4.0

[bimmerman]

Yea. I'm not sure there is much thermal headroom on my setup right now-- folding on both cpus at stock is ~65-70C temps.

 

Sooooooo watercooling!

[GrockleTD]

i think i got a *practically* dead x5680, just randomly shutdown, and got an overclocking failed message, despite not changing any settings

[Guest]

18 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

i think i got a *practically* dead x5680, just randomly shutdown, and got an overclocking failed message, despite not changing any settings

The best kind of issue. One with no trails... But I wouldn't blame the Cpu, typically it's a motherboard or PSU thing.... GL

[the pudding]

On 3/28/2020 at 10:10 PM, Crunchy Dragon said:

Those are some serious heatsinks.

Oh it needs them, those PLX chips get T O A S T Y 

[GrockleTD]

X58 rig doesn't seem to be able to post first time  , seems to take 3 or 4 times every time it gets turned off

 

Edit: seems to work fine just re-starting, but not when i un plug it and drain the power fully

[toasty99]

On 3/28/2020 at 6:02 PM, Zando Bob said:

That’s likely going to degrade the chip pretty quickly. What input voltage are you running? 1.35v vCore/2.1v Input Voltage is safe max for daily use on these chips. If you can’t hit 4.5 at that, I’d highly recommend just dropping clocks. 4.5 an onwards is diminishing returns anyways, you can usually run these chips much, much lower at 4.2. My 5820K would do 4.5 at 1.35v, but 4.2 at 1.2v, little difference in performance (especially if you’re pushing your uncore to 3.6-3.7, higher if you have an OC socket equipped board). 
 

 What are your temps like? I can check next time I have my 5960X rig running, IIRC all the cores stay within a few degrees of each other. 

Yeah my chip is really not great. It's taking 1.39 volts/2.1 input voltage to run 4.5 ghz. There the max temp running r20 is 87 so pretty good. Past that I can throw more and more voltage at it and get a bit more out of it but it basically stops at just below 4.6ghz all core and above 4.7 ghz single. I've got the uncore at 4.1ghz with some tinkering with the other voltages. 

 

Maybe I should just stop at 4.5 but that wouldn't be fun.  Though I may do that because then I can run the fans way less. 

[T3DDY14]

Does anyone have a stable overclock for 2x x5690s on a sr2? i kinda want to overclock it but also dont want to fry the board, was hoping for around 4.2-4.5ghz?

[GrockleTD]

6 hours ago, T3DDY14 said:

Does anyone have a stable overclock for 2x x5690s on a sr2? i kinda want to overclock it but also dont want to fry the board, was hoping for around 4.2-4.5ghz?

 

 

i believe bryan from TYC did something like that, although on water 

 

 

 

 

[T3DDY14]

18 hours ago, GrockleTD said:

 

 

i believe bryan from TYC did something like that, although on water 

 

 

 

 

Okay thanks will try it when home

[the pudding]

this 1650 isn't half bad, shame i can barely cool this mind you :< though the 212 evo black thing is holding up reasonably well tbh, i'll be ordering a nice 240mm aio when i get paid next week, should be able to push it a bit harder  though with that said i dunno how far i'll be able to push on a 240mm aio and all that jazz

[bimmerman]

Whelp I spent a solid day trying to get GPU passthrough working on the SR-2, without success. The NF200 PCIe multiplex switches appear to totally break passthrough and I'm not sure I can get around it. Google has found some people who have gotten it to work, but with linux skills I don't have, and even then it's heckin' janky.

 

Kinda bummed. Project may be dead, going to give it another couple days' effort before calling it. It runs just fine but I don't have a need for it except as a lan-rig-in-a-box

[Zando_]

33 minutes ago, bimmerman said:

Whelp I spent a solid day trying to get GPU passthrough working on the SR-2, without success. The NF200 PCIe multiplex switches appear to totally break passthrough and I'm not sure I can get around it. Google has found some people who have gotten it to work, but with linux skills I don't have, and even then it's heckin' janky.

 

Kinda bummed. Project may be dead, going to give it another couple days' effort before calling it. It runs just fine but I don't have a need for it except as a lan-rig-in-a-box

The curse of 4-Way SLI . This is likely why the Rampage III Extreme didn't have the NF200s (or only had one?) unless you got a PCIe add-in card. Not as good for a bench monster running quad SLI, but better for all other users. These EVGA boards didn't seem to consider anyone doing anything but building bench crushers or over the top gaming rigs.