General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

[the pudding]

Finally found a pic of my old 750D system, I miss that thing tbh, that was an X5650 at 4.4GHz 1.375v, 24gb (3x8gb) at 1600MHz, rampage 2 extreme, 212 evo, hx1000w psu, 1tb hdd, 128gb ssd, hd 7990 and the like, was a lovely system, especially for the time back in 2016

 

http://valid.x86.fr/ctq87w

[Crunchy Dragon]

29 minutes ago, the pudding said:

rampage 2 extreme,

That's the exact motherboard I'm trying to get working.

 

Poor thing had several bent socket pins.

[the pudding]

10 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

That's the exact motherboard I'm trying to get working.

 

Poor thing had several bent socket pins.

ahh poor board :<

[Crunchy Dragon]

Welp, Rampage II Extreme still don't work.

 

There are only 2 pins in the socket that appear to be out of place now, but I don't know if there's an underlying issue with this board that I can't diagnose, or if those 2 pins are my only troublemakers.

 

Anybody know where I can find an LGA 1366 pin-out?

[Zando_]

3 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Welp, Rampage II Extreme still don't work.

 

There are only 2 pins in the socket that appear to be out of place now, but I don't know if there's an underlying issue with this board that I can't diagnose, or if those 2 pins are my only troublemakers.

 

Anybody know where I can find an LGA 1366 pin-out?

This may have what you need: https://web.archive.org/web/20120111163334/http://download.intel.com/design/processor/datashts/320834.pdf

 

Also: http://www.reenigne.org/blog/what-are-all-those-pins-for/ color coded diagram of what all the pins are, some madlad with an i7 920 made it. 

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

This may have what you need: https://web.archive.org/web/20120111163334/http://download.intel.com/design/processor/datashts/320834.pdf

 

Also: http://www.reenigne.org/blog/what-are-all-those-pins-for/ color coded diagram of what all the pins are, some madlad with an i7 920 made it. 

I've found that map as well.

 

My troublemakers seem to be on the right side of the map, among all the various DIMM pins....

[bimmerman]

Is it for sure the socket and not the chip?

 

Air coolers have arrived, RAM tomorrow supposedly. Tinkering will start this weekend!

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, bimmerman said:

Is it for sure the socket and not the chip?

Chip POSTed fine and was recognized in BIOS on my X58 Micro before I sent it out, running 3 DIMMs. 

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 minute ago, bimmerman said:

Is it for sure the socket and not the chip?

@Zando Bob claims this chip is known good, and the socket had bent pins when I got this board.

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

@Zando Bob claims this chip is known good, and the socket had bent pins when I got this board.

Indeed. I did get a spook because the Sabertooth I was testing with it cooked itself, but AFAIK it did not damage the CPU. As I said above, I booted into BIOS > hardware info (I forget what the exact section in the EVGA BIOS is called, shows various temps in-BIOS) on my X58 Micro just before putting the CPU into the bag to ship it out, was recognized just fine with 3 DIMMs as per normal. 

[bimmerman]

Ah gotcha. That's a bummer about the board!

[Crunchy Dragon]

3 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Indeed. I did get a spook because the Sabertooth I was testing with it cooked itself, but AFAIK it did not damage the CPU. As I said above, I booted into BIOS > hardware info (I forget what the exact section in the EVGA BIOS is called, shows various temps in-BIOS) on my X58 Micro just before putting the CPU into the bag to ship it out, was recognized just fine with 3 DIMMs as per normal. 

Yeah, this board might just be seriously borked. I can get lights to flash when it powers on, though.

 

One indicates which BIOS chip it's booting from, as far as I can tell, according to the documentation for this board. The other is for the IDE connector, it looks like. Tried connecting an IDE drive just to see what it'd do, still behaves the same.

 

Showing all the symptoms of a motherboard not detecting a CPU.

[GrockleTD]

5 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

ne indicates which BIOS chip it's booting from

does this board have removable BIOS chips?

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, GrockleTD said:

does this board have removable BIOS chips?

Yeah, 2 of them.

[Zando_]

7 minutes ago, bimmerman said:

Ah gotcha. That's a bummer about the board!

On some not-bummer board news, preeeeeettty sure I'd be down to sell the blocks if I can track down the other VRM block . I may offload my SR-2s as well tbh, but I gotta pull out the one that should work and test again then make a final decision. I've got too many single CPU rigs running/under construction, I don't know that I can justify the cost of an SR-2 setup. Already have the need for an appropriate GPU for my also stupidly overkill single CPU board (the Classy SLI 4-Way), and I would like to look into custom cabling to add that last little bit to my rigs once I finalize the hardware configs (so far I only have a CableMod kit for just one of my EVGA PSUs). 

If I want to do an SR-2 rig I'm going to need a very expensive PSU and case just for starters, then I need to look into appropriate amounts of RAM, and then (again) find GPUs that'd make sense running on such an OP board. So food for thought I guess, but TLDR I'll likely let the blocks go once I track down the second one and clean them up. 
 

6 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Yeah, this board might just be seriously borked. I can get lights to flash when it powers on, though.

 

One indicates which BIOS chip it's booting from, as far as I can tell, according to the documentation for this board. The other is for the IDE connector, it looks like. Tried connecting an IDE drive just to see what it'd do, still behaves the same.

 

Showing all the symptoms of a motherboard not detecting a CPU.

 I remember getting the same thing (error code FF) on my X99 Classy, but in that case the CPU was dead (was a 5960X that fell victim to a Rampage V Extreme). 

 

I guess the pins or something else on the board is fucking with its ability to recognize the CPU? IDK how to really troubleshoot and issue like that though. On the Sabertooth it just gave the the handy dandy "oh shit now there's smoke from the VRMs oh god oh fuck turn it off" which makes figuring out which board component pulled a fucky wucky very easy. @The Blackhat has the board now, IIRC he's going to try and fix it (assuming USPS did not drop-kick the box), will be interesting to see if just soldering on new VRM components (It was a MOSFET or three that blew, I think he may be changing out some other stuff too) will fix it. Assuming there's no trace damage it's supposed to . 

[Crunchy Dragon]

2 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

I guess the pins or something else on the board is fucking with its ability to recognize the CPU?

I think that would have to be the case, yes.

 

Just in case it was a problem with one of the DIMMs, I tried known good DDR3 in every slot, no dice.

[Crunchy Dragon]

Still, not an overall terrible day. Was able to shift my HD 4870 and GTS 250, made some money.

 

Also made a run to CFA after hitting the post office, and I guess I could always just source another X58 board if I really wanted to. They seem to have come down in price a fair bit since the last time I looked.

[GrockleTD]

21 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Yeah, 2 of them.

try scraping the contacts with knife (gently) to remove any potential corrosion

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 minute ago, GrockleTD said:

try scraping the contacts with knife (gently) to remove any potential corrosion

Guess it's worth a try. Wish we had gotten to this when it was still a full system.

[Zando_]

3 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

try scraping the contacts with knife (gently) to remove any potential corrosion

On the CPU or the socket? They're shiny gold, you'll see any corrosion easily. 

It's very thin gold tho so it's incredibly easy to scratch through it and make the problem worse. 

[GrockleTD]

22 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

On the CPU or the socket? They're shiny gold, you'll see any corrosion easily. 

It's very thin gold tho so it's incredibly easy to scratch through it and make the problem worse. 

neither, the contacts on the BIOS chip

[bimmerman]

3 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

On some not-bummer board news, preeeeeettty sure I'd be down to sell the blocks if I can track down the other VRM block . I may offload my SR-2s as well tbh, but I gotta pull out the one that should work and test again then make a final decision. I've got too many single CPU rigs running/under construction, I don't know that I can justify the cost of an SR-2 setup. Already have the need for an appropriate GPU for my also stupidly overkill single CPU board (the Classy SLI 4-Way), and I would like to look into custom cabling to add that last little bit to my rigs once I finalize the hardware configs (so far I only have a CableMod kit for just one of my EVGA PSUs). 

If I want to do an SR-2 rig I'm going to need a very expensive PSU and case just for starters, then I need to look into appropriate amounts of RAM, and then (again) find GPUs that'd make sense running on such an OP board. So food for thought I guess, but TLDR I'll likely let the blocks go once I track down the second one and clean them up. 

Awesome, thanks! Keep me posted. I'm hoping to get my board up and running this weekend to verify 1) it isn't fubar 2) 4x gaming VMs will work well-enough with what I have. If it passes on both accounts, then WC all the things!

 

also.....yea I definitely am starting to realize how damn expensive this build is going to be.

[m4shroom]

Hi all.It seems I have a strange thing going on.I havent done any overclocking yet all settings are optimized defaults all voltage settings on auto.But I realized something , maybe its happening from the beginning I m not sure .I shared a photo of hwmonitor at page 134 .After that realized that turbo boost is disabled and some of power save adjustments are not on.

So I entered bios and loaded optimized defaults . when I turn  computer on , error led shows c1 and reboots like 2 or 3 times and than starts normal and all seems ok in windows(but not sure if its cause of loding optimized defaults)maybe its like that from the begining .I researched c1 code people say its about memory settings .So checked memory settings which voltage settings on auto and timings were 9-9-9-24 @1333 mhz.And than checked the specs on rams(corsair xms3 3*2gb  1600mhz) which is 8-8-8-24.I tought that maybe the timings are the problem so changed timings 8-8-8-24@1333mhz.this time when I started computer  a message appeared about overclock failure which I didnt any just corrected timings.I remembered some people said f13 bios isnt most stable .I downgraded bios to f12 but nothing has changed. Anyone has any idea ? I write specs of computer if it helps any ..( btw I turned off all power saving futures  cause of if it happens cause off them nothing changed again) 

ga ex58-ud5 

x5675

corsair xms3 3*2gb

rx460

 

edit:I have found a topic which is similar to my problem.I have 6gb ram instead of 12 gb.About playing games no issues at all but I want my computer turns on as fast as used to be

 

[bimmerman]

you might need to add some RAM voltage, or could be the bios isn't happy with your xeon?

 

I'd go into bios, hit reset all to default safe, then see if it boots. Running the memory slower won't hurt anything. TBH you probably won't notice.

[m4shroom]

I adjusted ram voltage like 1.64 nothing changed .maybe I couldnt describe my problem exactly .with i7920 When I turn on computer led display keep showing the codes just in order.with x5675 its stuck at c1 code like 10-12 secs and blinking once or twice   I tought it reboots itself.So it adds 10-15 seconds more to open compared to i7920 installed.I have played lots of hours games.No problem at all.ACtually I  have satisfied More than I tought.Lower power consumption,a lot less heat to deal etc.Btw Idont care if its 1333 or 1600 its not the issue which its gonna get closer maybe higher when I overclock it via blck So its not problem  .I just want my 10-15 seconds back

Thx for your answer dude.