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General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

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On 1/20/2020 at 6:18 AM, the pudding said:

yeah honestly these are still really solid cpus, if only for a short period of time you could pump in around 1.55v and really pump up the clocks (don't do this for a long period of time though) in my best vega 56 score i ever managed on X58 I was running 4.8GHz 1.52v but you don't want to be running that often or for a long time 

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/20193056 (though I'm sitting at nearly 20k on a flashed vega 56 and 4930K now) 

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/21596841

 

4.7ghz 1.36v. 

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On 1/20/2020 at 8:18 AM, the pudding said:

yeah honestly these are still really solid cpus, if only for a short period of time you could pump in around 1.55v and really pump up the clocks (don't do this for a long period of time though) in my best vega 56 score i ever managed on X58 I was running 4.8GHz 1.52v but you don't want to be running that often or for a long time 

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/20193056 (though I'm sitting at nearly 20k on a flashed vega 56 and 4930K now) 

Interesting how your flashed Vega 56 only performs about 6k points better than my bone stock Fury X. I could probably get a few hundred more points out of Fury with a overclock but as many people, inlcuding Gamer's Nexus, hqve stated, the Fury series took very poorly to overclocking and you could forget about even touching the HBM. That said, its still a very good card for 1080p and a respectable one for 2k gaming.I bet it could even do some low end 4k stuff but I don't have a display for that so I can't confirm.

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@Crunchy Dragon any luck?


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4 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

@Crunchy Dragon any luck?

I haven't yet decided I wanna rip the PSU out of my main rig to test, but the socket looks fine to me.

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2 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

Maybe that's why the board was supposed to be dead? IIRC my Rampage board ran RAM around 1600-1800Mhz fine with an X5675. 

 

From what I read online, x58 xeons are designed that way, ark.intel says the x5675 and x5690  support memory speeds of 800/1066/1333, but I can change the memory speed by bumping up the bclk. Though, I cant run stock with with my 1866 dimms, the Rampage board pushes them down to 1333. Oh well! I've got enough spare parts so this isnt really an issue for me, it's just an odd quirk (and/or feature???) of the platform.

 

My biggest issue is that I've been dealing with sudden shutdowns during gaming. Just flat out shutdowns with no info from event viewer other than an unexpected shurdown. It seems like something may have been overheating, so I bolted some new old stock Pentium 2 fans onto the PCH and QPI chips. I even fabbed a ghetto shroud for so the fan would blow air properly. I am both pround and disgusted with my work lol, I'm not sure how long masking tape is gonna last on a hot heatsink.

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25 minutes ago, Skunch said:

 

From what I read online, x58 xeons are designed that way, ark.intel says the x5675 and x5690  support memory speeds of 800/1066/1333, but I can change the memory speed by bumping up the bclk. Though, I cant run stock with with my 1866 dimms, the Rampage board pushes them down to 1333. Oh well! I've got enough spare parts so this isnt really an issue for me, it's just an odd quirk (and/or feature???) of the platform.

 

My biggest issue is that I've been dealing with sudden shutdowns during gaming. Just flat out shutdowns with no info from event viewer other than an unexpected shurdown. It seems like something may have been overheating, so I bolted some new old stock Pentium 2 fans onto the PCH and QPI chips. I even fabbed a ghetto shroud for so the fan would blow air properly. I am both pround and disgusted with my work lol, I'm not sure how long masking tape is gonna last on a hot heatsink.

To be fair I have usually ran the RAM OCed with a CPU OC as well, which ups the BLCK. Or with an i7, but those support higher memory speeds AFAIK. Are you running your Xeons stock for some reason? 

And hmmmmmm... if you're running them stock, your board shouldn't be overheating. If it's under an OC then yeah, the northbridge will get hella hot. My Classified boards actually have a heatsink taller than the i7 920 stock cooler (including fan) to deal with this lol. 


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Gonna drop this one again:

 

At this point in time, the CPU socket looks to be fully straightened, but I can't make this board work with my Xeon E5503. My best guess at the moment is it doesn't work with Nehalem chips. Should still work with all the usual Core i7s(920, 940, so forth). Unfortunately don't have one on-hand to properly test with.

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On ‎1‎/‎20‎/‎2020 at 6:28 PM, Skunch said:

Word up! So glad to see X58 users! I'm a PC builder myself, but I have never overclocked out of fear of bricking my stuff. I'd love to learn though, and this thread is extremely helpful! Here's my system specs:

 

i7 980X Stock frequency

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo

Asus Rampage III Formula

24GB Kingston HyperX Black 1866

GTX 970

Samsung 950 PRO NVMe 512GB

2TB WD Green

Win 10 Pro x64

700w Thermaltake PSU

Dont be afraid of punishing your I7 980X, they can take a pretty good beating. Infact X58 boards and CPU a pretty hard to kill as long you stay away from high voltage and temps.

 

I have a I7 980X as well and i have had it oc to 4.4 GHz at 1.43 volts the past three years and even for benchmark up to 4.75 Ghz at 1.55 volts a cold winter day off cause and despeite it is still going strong. All throw before you begin to OC your chip, replace that Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo with a better cooler. Evo 212 is not gear to handle the heat out put a I7 980X can put out at 4.4 GHz. I am using a Noctua NH-D14 to keep my max core temp at 75-77 degress Celsious under full load.

 

Here is my bios settings for 4.4 GHz, uncore set to 3600 MHz. These voltage and setting are just a guide as your cpu might need higher voltage or has better silicone than my own so it can run with lower voltage as you do want if possible. lower voltage decrease heat out put, stress on the CPU´s transistors and will also mean a lower watt usage with will benefit your power bill. Note: the settings i am posting here is using the unlocked multiplier, you can overclock your I7 980X by BLCK as well if you prefer that, but that will need you to ajust more voltage than those i have a justed in bios now.

 

https://imgur.com/a/bBjw4wA

 

I see you are also a Samsung PRO 950 user on X58 as i am. excellent, welcome to the club.

 

My system spec.

Core i7 980X @ 4.42 GHz

Noctua NH-D14 CPU 

ASUS P6X58D Premium

12 GB DDR3 ram Corsair 1600 MHz triple channel (6 x 2 GB)

Samsung 950 PRO 256 GB M.2 NVMe SSD

CRUCIAL MX300 2 TB sata 

SSD WD RED 4 TB

WD AV-GP 2 TB

EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 GAMING

 

Here are a few benchmark and game test from my own system. CPU oc to 4.4 GHz or around 4.7 GHz.

https://imgur.com/a/uHjbbMg

 

For those interested. Benchmark from my old I7 920 based system i had before I7 980X.

https://imgur.com/a/WqD1iHK

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6 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Gonna drop this one again:

 

At this point in time, the CPU socket looks to be fully straightened, but I can't make this board work with my Xeon E5503. My best guess at the moment is it doesn't work with Nehalem chips. Should still work with all the usual Core i7s(920, 940, so forth). Unfortunately don't have one on-hand to properly test with.

well, it might still be an improvement over my MSI board, so how much would you want for it?


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1 minute ago, GrockleTD said:

well, it might still be an improvement over my MSI board, so how much would you want for it?

Probably no higher than 75 USD. I'll throw in a stick of 1GB Samsung DDR3 as well.

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17 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Probably no higher than 75 USD. I'll throw in a stick of 1GB Samsung DDR3 as well.

sounds good, especially if that includes shipping. going to see if i can get this pP6X58D first if its all the same to you


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1 minute ago, GrockleTD said:

sounds good, especially if that includes shipping. going to see if i can get this pP6X58D first if its all the same to you

No worries, I'm not in a rush.

 

Edit: I posted this somewhere else just so you're aware, but I don't know if anybody there will bite.

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1 minute ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

No worries, I'm not in a rush.

 

Edit: I posted this somewhere else just so you're aware, but I don't know if anybody there will bite.

it's your hardware, sell it wherever you like :)


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3 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

To be fair I have usually ran the RAM OCed with a CPU OC as well, which ups the BLCK. Or with an i7, but those support higher memory speeds AFAIK. Are you running your Xeons stock for some reason? 

And hmmmmmm... if you're running them stock, your board shouldn't be overheating. If it's under an OC then yeah, the northbridge will get hella hot. My Classified boards actually have a heatsink taller than the i7 920 stock cooler (including fan) to deal with this lol. 

Yeah it's a real head scratcher, because I'm running stock frequencies, and the only two games that cause a shutdown are Dota 2 and No Man's Sky (dont laugh!). I figured it was a gpu issue, but I have a 970 strix and that's a really effective cooler. Just to be safe, I did a fresh repaste on the 970 with some AS5. I played a test game after I added the fans and repasting gpu, and there were no issues.

 

I'm barely getting cpu temps above 55 degrees, and the gpu rarely gets above 71 or 72 degrees.

 

When I was crashing a lot last week I got fed up and I tested all of my parts on the ud7 and couldn't replicate the problem :( I tested cpu, gpu, ram, and PSU and got no repeatable results. There is the chance that 10+ year old hardware might be starting to fail, but I really hope that's not the case.

 

I'm not really using the x5690 in any way, so just have it as a backup if I blow up my 980x. I have in a partially built system that I may sell, so I've left it stock due to lack of use.

 

2 hours ago, Intelfreak said:

Dont be afraid of punishing your I7 980X, they can take a pretty good beating. Infact X58 boards and CPU a pretty hard to kill as long you stay away from high voltage and temps.

 

I have a I7 980X as well and i have had it oc to 4.4 GHz at 1.43 volts the past three years and even for benchmark up to 4.75 Ghz at 1.55 volts a cold winter day off cause and despeite it is still going strong. All throw before you begin to OC your chip, replace that Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo with a better cooler. Evo 212 is not gear to handle the heat out put a I7 980X can put out at 4.4 GHz. I am using a Noctua NH-D14 to keep my max core temp at 75-77 degress Celsious under full load.

 

Here is my bios settings for 4.4 GHz, uncore set to 3600 MHz. These voltage and setting are just a guide as your cpu might need higher voltage or has better silicone than my own so it can run with lower voltage as you do want if possible. lower voltage decrease heat out put, stress on the CPU´s transistors and will also mean a lower watt usage with will benefit your power bill. Note: the settings i am posting here is using the unlocked multiplier, you can overclock your I7 980X by BLCK as well if you prefer that, but that will need you to ajust more voltage than those i have a justed in bios now.

 

https://imgur.com/a/bBjw4wA

 

I see you are also a Samsung PRO 950 user on X58 as i am. excellent, welcome to the club.

 

My system spec.

Core i7 980X @ 4.42 GHz

Noctua NH-D14 CPU 

ASUS P6X58D Premium

12 GB DDR3 ram Corsair 1600 MHz triple channel (6 x 2 GB)

Samsung 950 PRO 256 GB M.2 NVMe SSD

CRUCIAL MX300 2 TB sata 

SSD WD RED 4 TB

WD AV-GP 2 TB

EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 GAMING

 

Here are a few benchmark and game test from my own system. CPU oc to 4.4 GHz or around 4.7 GHz.

https://imgur.com/a/uHjbbMg

 

For those interested. Benchmark from my old I7 920 based system i had before I7 980X.

https://imgur.com/a/WqD1iHK

That is very helpful! I've been planning on grabbing a noctua air cooler because they are just so damn good. I love the fact that I was able to get an NVMe ssd working on x58!

 

What kind of data rates do you get? I bought a snazzy *looking* chinesium NVMe to pcie adapter, but I only get about 1400mb/s read and 800mb/s write. Waaaaay faster than the junky sata 3 controllers you find on x58 system, but I know it should be able to run faster.

 

Also, anyone had any luck getting 8gb Dimms to work on x58? I wouldn't mind bringing my system up to 48gb of ram for bragging rights.

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6 minutes ago, Skunch said:

Yeah it's a real head scratcher, because I'm running stock frequencies, and the only two games that cause a shutdown are Dota 2 and No Man's Sky (dont laugh!). I figured it was a gpu issue, but I have a 970 strix and that's a really effective cooler. Just to be safe, I did a fresh repaste on the 970 with some AS5. I played a test game after I added the fans and repasting gpu, and there were no issues.

 

I'm barely getting cpu temps above 55 degrees, and the gpu rarely gets above 71 or 72 degrees.

 

When I was crashing a lot last week I got fed up and I tested all of my parts on the ud7 and couldn't replicate the problem :( I tested cpu, gpu, ram, and PSU and got no repeatable results. There is the chance that 10+ year old hardware might be starting to fail, but I really hope that's not the case.

 

I'm not really using the x5690 in any way, so just have it as a backup if I blow up my 980x. I have in a partially built system that I may sell, so I've left it stock due to lack of use.

 

That is very helpful! I've been planning on grabbing a noctua air cooler because they are just so damn good. I love the fact that I was able to get an NVMe ssd working on x58!

 

What kind of data rates do you get? I bought a snazzy *looking* chinesium NVMe to pcie adapter, but I only get about 1400mb/s read and 800mb/s write. Waaaaay faster than the junky sata 3 controllers you find on x58 system, but I know it should be able to run faster.

 

Also, anyone had any luck getting 8gb Dimms to work on x58? I wouldn't mind bringing my system up to 48gb of ram for bragging rights.

Yeah noctua coolers are top notch, it's just those ugly poop color fans, so I replaced those fans with there black IPPC series fans. Now it's bofh look good and cools well.

 

Nvme SSD on x58 is a joy to use. No crappy Marvell sata 3 controller or slow sata 2 to be limited by. About max speed, you won't see speed much above 1700 mb/s as you are limited by pcie gen 2. 1400 mb/s tells me that you SSD has allot of stuff on it, 950 PRO slows down as they are filled up with files. Mine slows from 1700 to 1400 when nearly full. But 800 mb/s in transfer seems a bit slow as 512 gb is rated for 1500 mb/s for write speed.

 

Dont waste money on 48 gb memory. 

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43 minutes ago, Intelfreak said:

Yeah noctua coolers are top notch, it's just those ugly poop color fans, so I replaced those fans with there black IPPC series fans. Now it's bofh look good and cools well.

 

Nvme SSD on x58 is a joy to use. No crappy Marvell sata 3 controller or slow sata 2 to be limited by. About max speed, you won't see speed much above 1700 mb/s as you are limited by pcie gen 2. 1400 mb/s tells me that you SSD has allot of stuff on it, 950 PRO slows down as they are filled up with files. Mine slows from 1700 to 1400 when nearly full. But 800 mb/s in transfer seems a bit slow as 512 gb is rated for 1500 mb/s for write speed.

 

Dont waste money on 48 gb memory. 

Lol everyone hates on those noctua fans for their colour! I grew up using computers in the 90s, so beige computer parts are normal for me! I have a soft spot for old AT cases. I love building sleepers! As for my personal rig, I have no glass on my tower so I'm fine with any colour inside the case.

 

Regarding the ssd, it's not even half full! I've got about 300 gb free. I was getting almost 1100mb/s write before I pulled everything apart. I realized that my gpu was plugged into an pcie x8 slot, so I swapped things around and now I've got slower write speeds. That doesn't make sense since nvme is just a pcie x4 interface that happens to be terminated for a smaller form factor. I think it's the adapter more than anything, I've got a startech adapter in my workshop, so I'll give that a spin. It doesnt have a fancy blower cooler and shroud (which looks totally badass) like the chinesium adapter, but I'll just have to make do.

 

As for RAM, I already wasted my money on 24gb, what makes you think I'm gonna start making smart decisions now?!?

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7 hours ago, Skunch said:

What kind of data rates do you get? I bought a snazzy *looking* chinesium NVMe to pcie adapter, but I only get about 1400mb/s read and 800mb/s write. Waaaaay faster than the junky sata 3 controllers you find on x58 system, but I know it should be able to run faster.

I managed this on a 25% full ssd 950pro as well

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it was with p6t, the adapter was inserted to one of the full fat x16 slot


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I recently re-discovered my long lost x58 gear nearly a year after moving, and am in the process of rebuilding the machine. I had taken the motherboard, cpu and ram and stuffed it into an unused HTPC case for safe keeping.

Components:

  • Motherboard: EVGA X58 LE (141-BL-E757-TR)
  • Processor: Intel i7 980X
  • Memory: 24GB Corsair Vengeance 1600 mHz

 

Other components going into it:

  • GPU: MSI Gaming GTX 980 4G (I presently have one, and may look to pick up a second for cheap off eBay for SLI)
  • Storage: Kingston 120GB Sata3 SSD (Boot drive), Kingston 240GB Sata3 SSD (Games)
  • PSU: EVGA Supernova 850B2
  • CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2

 

When I originally uncovered this gear, I was going to use it as a Plex Media server, but after researching the lack of on board graphics prevents me from using GPU based acceleration since the CPU does not support Quick Sync Video. So instead my i7-2600 system will be moved into Plex duty (Asus Maximus IV z68/16 GB Corsair Dominator, these were recently purchased and still pending arrival before rediscovering the x58 gear. I may look to grab a i7-3770K for the system, but we'll see.)

I know the x58 platform is getting a bit long in the tooth, but I've had enough of schlepping on a Core i3-7100 8GB DDR4 system on a Gigabyte H170 based motherboard, which is being pushed finally to HTPC duty where it belongs.

I mostly play Star Wars: The Old Republic (MMO), maybe some NFS: Underground/Underground 2 or some EA NHL 2K (Revival). I don't play a ton of modern games, although I do want to try the new remake of Resident Evil 2.

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16 minutes ago, gmac82 said:

I mostly play Star Wars: The Old Republic (MMO), maybe some NFS: Underground/Underground 2 or some EA NHL 2K (Revival). I don't play a ton of modern games, although I do want to try the new remake of Resident Evil 2.

That should run fine, I used to play a bit of SWTOR on my X58 rig, ASUS Rampage III Formula with an X5675 at 4.4Ghz or so, and 24GB DDR3. Never had issues keeping a steady 60fps. Only games to do that were some patrol areas in Destiny 2, and then Assassin's Creed Odyssey (kept above 30fps and rock fucking solid frametimes there though, so perfectly playable). 


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3 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

That should run fine, I used to play a bit of SWTOR on my X58 rig, ASUS Rampage III Formula with an X5675 at 4.4Ghz or so, and 24GB DDR3. Never had issues keeping a steady 60fps. Only games to do that were some patrol areas in Destiny 2, and then Assassin's Creed Odyssey (kept above 30fps and rock fucking solid frametimes there though, so perfectly playable). 

Yeah more than likely. I am looking to pick up a 1440p monitor, so that's why I'm potentially looking to SLI my 980. I think I saw an exact same card as mine for under 250 CAD on eBay

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Just now, gmac82 said:

Yeah more than likely. I am looking to pick up a 1440p monitor, so that's why I'm potentially looking to SLI my 980. I think I saw an exact same card as mine for under 250 CAD on eBay

Oooooooo even better, these chips have an easier time at 1440p. Some guys here play just fine at that res with a 1080 Ti, quite a powerful GPU for this platform lol. 

SLI hmmmm... it can be fun if you wanna tinker or do bench stuff, but I've found it's very hit or miss if stuff scales well, or more importantly, runs well. Rise of The Tomb Raider is supposed to support SLI, but that game was always wack for me. I'd get 160fps (SLI 1080s), but it'd freeze for an entire second, or have massive lag spikes, it was pretty unplayable. But then other games scaled perfectly, and some didn't really care much at all (no performance gain but no unplayable issues). 

I have two GTX 780s I got to try SLI again for fun, if I get my X58 rig up and running again this weekend, I'll try and remember to reinstall SWTOR and see if it's a game that has issues with SLI or not. 

If you wanna go single GPU, 980 Tis still absolutely slap, especially if you get a good overclocker. Could sell the 980 and get a 980 Ti. Basically you trade the potential for higher performance (if games scale well/play nice), for a lower potential performance ceiling, but you very consistently get the performance you expect. A 980 Ti always performs like a 980 Ti, with SLI 980s any "more than 980 Ti performance" is down to how your games like SLI. If they do like it though, holy heck SLI can blow your socks off with the numbers it'll pull. 


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3 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Oooooooo even better, these chips have an easier time at 1440p. Some guys here play just fine at that res with a 1080 Ti, quite a powerful GPU for this platform lol. 

SLI hmmmm... it can be fun if you wanna tinker or do bench stuff, but I've found it's very hit or miss if stuff scales well, or more importantly, runs well. Rise of The Tomb Raider is supposed to support SLI, but that game was always wack for me. I'd get 160fps (SLI 1080s), but it'd freeze for an entire second, or have massive lag spikes, it was pretty unplayable. But then other games scaled perfectly, and some didn't really care much at all (no performance gain but no unplayable issues). 

I have two GTX 780s I got to try SLI again for fun, if I get my X58 rig up and running again this weekend, I'll try and remember to reinstall SWTOR and see if it's a game that has issues with SLI or not. 

If you wanna go single GPU, 980 Tis still absolutely slap, especially if you get a good overclocker. Could sell the 980 and get a 980 Ti. Basically you trade the potential for higher performance (if games scale well/play nice), for a lower potential performance ceiling, but you very consistently get the performance you expect. A 980 Ti always performs like a 980 Ti, with SLI 980s any "more than 980 Ti performance" is down to how your games like SLI. If they do like it though, holy heck SLI can blow your socks off with the numbers it'll pull. 

Yeah, that's always a consideration. I definitely have some more research to do before making any additional purchases.

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Yeah, that's always a consideration. I definitely have some more research to do before making any additional purchases.

? Be sure to ask any questions you may have here too, there's a lot of guys who are extremely experience overclockers and such, or have been maining this platform for years. You can even get some NVMe drives going on this platform, IIRC the Samsung 950 Evo and maybe one or two others? @Intelfreak knows more I think. @MaratM also runs one. 


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1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

? Be sure to ask any questions you may have here too, there's a lot of guys who are extremely experience overclockers and such, or have been maining this platform for years. You can even get some NVMe drives going on this platform, IIRC the Samsung 950 Evo and maybe one or two others? @Intelfreak knows more I think. @MaratM also runs one. 

Oh yeah, that was something else I might look into is getting a bifurcation adapter to run a couple of NVMe's in raid. One of the other things I plan to do with this machine is go back to digitizing my Bluray collection so I can have everything playable through Plex. I tend to go once every few months and buy a bunch of $1-$3 Blurays to add to my collection.

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1 minute ago, gmac82 said:

Oh yeah, that was something else I might look into is getting a bifurcation adapter to run a couple of NVMe's in raid. One of the other things I plan to do with this machine is go back to digitizing my Bluray collection so I can have everything playable through Plex. I tend to go once every few months and buy a bunch of $1-$3 Blurays to add to my collection.

One with an onboard controller? I don't think anything prior to some specific X99 boards does PCIe bifurcation from the CPU, and to do it easily you really need X299 or Threadripper/some X570 boards. 


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Big Rig (Archived) - (Shelved, soon to be project) - i7 5960X -> soon to be 6950X - Custom Loop (CPU only): 2x 360GTS with EK-ZMT/Stubbies and EK D5 pump/res combo - EVGA X99 Classified - 32GB (4x8GB) HyperX Predator DDR4 @ 3200MHz CL16 XMP - will be a Vega 56 or 2060 Super, eventually SLI 1080 Tis- 1TB 970 Evo - Corsair RM1000i - Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX TG - 6x iPPC NF-F12 2000 
 

X58 Rig (Mostly Done) - (Alt Rig 2) - Xeon X5675 @ 4.4/3.7 core/uncore- NH-D15S - EVGA X58 Classified SLI 4-Way - 24GB (3x8GB) HyperX Savage Red DDR3 @ 1750Mhz CL9-10-10-27 - 2x EVGA Classified 780s - 120GB HyperX SSD - ASUS or Liteon DVD-RW drive, forget which - EVGA 1600W T2 - Corsair 750D - 5x iPPC NF-A14 3000 PWM

 

2019 13" rMBP (i5/8GB/256GB) {work} - 2012 13" MBP (i5/16GB/525GB) {mine} - iPhone 11 Pro Max + Apple Watch S3 42mm - iPod Classic 6G 80GB running Rockbox + iPod Classic 5.5G Enhanced 30GB also on Rockbox - iPhone X - iPhone 4S on iOS 6.1.3

 

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