General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

[bimmerman]

Yea....I have 6x4GB. They worked fine up until ~2100MHz (1600 rated speed, fwiw), then the IMC starts losing one or two DIMMs. Decreasing BCLK / mem multiplier brought the DIMMs back.

 

If you can find 3x8 at fast speed, I'd suggest doing that IF you are aiming for fast RAM. I have not seen any benefit to ~2000 vs 1800 vs 1600 in isolation. Faster BCLK and Uncore made a massive difference; CPU and Mem mult not so much. 4.5ghz X5675, 215x21 (mem x8)-- stable up to 4.7 but well past diminishing returns point there.

 

As for NVMe-- it's amazing. Downside, for a boot drive, is the 950 Pro is expensive as hell. Plug and play though, just set BIOS to AHCI, which is nice.

 

I'm still debating what to do with my system now that it's not my main anymore. Storage server conversion? Partout? I dunno.

[bimmerman]

For those who like to gamble on tweaking and fixing old 1366 stuff: EVGA Classified, the pimpy single-socket one

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-1366-CLASSIFIED-MOTHERBOARD-3-WAY-EATX-FOR-PARTS-FAST-SHIPPING-LOTS-OF-PICS/383376911021?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3D3d9ff9bf5d884aa1bbe14f1d5057d666%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26mehot%3Dnone%26itm%3D383376911021%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100651.m4497&_trkparms=pageci%3A393763e6-3edc-11ea-9a24-74dbd1807373|parentrq%3Ad8f02bcc16f0a4e9222e5095fffeea60|iid%3A1

[Zando_]

4 minutes ago, bimmerman said:

For those who like to gamble on tweaking and fixing old 1366 stuff: EVGA Classified, the pimpy single-socket one

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-1366-CLASSIFIED-MOTHERBOARD-3-WAY-EATX-FOR-PARTS-FAST-SHIPPING-LOTS-OF-PICS/383376911021?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3D3d9ff9bf5d884aa1bbe14f1d5057d666%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26mehot%3Dnone%26itm%3D383376911021%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100651.m4497&_trkparms=pageci%3A393763e6-3edc-11ea-9a24-74dbd1807373|parentrq%3Ad8f02bcc16f0a4e9222e5095fffeea60|iid%3A1

Huh, they're near me lol. I have one of those boards, and a 4-Way (the XL-ATX version with 7 PCIe slots) as well. They're damn nice boards, but the BIOS isn't as clean as ASUS', it has a lot more clutter and some stuff is in funky spots. Still solid though. 

Seems to be a contact loose somewhere since they said it'll work when flexing sometimes? Don't see why all the heatsinks are missing though, and IDK how easy it is to find replacements (unless you go generic, but X58 northbridges get hot if you OC). 

[gmac82]

Bought some goodies to finish the rebuild of my x58 machine:
 

• https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0799FW19P/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
• https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07398XQBN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
• https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07DXF94K9/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
• https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07654W3F2/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
• https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07N4HDTNS/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
• https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B081HWKF5Z/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
• https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B083LZWGLZ/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
• https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01N09W21D/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
• https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07KZXJTLN/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
• https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07R4XZK52/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
• https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00KF7NGUE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  
  Gonna play around with DUET, looks pretty straight forward. I'm re-habbing my NZXT S340 Elite case, window is a bit scuffed up so going to use some automotive plastic scratch removal stuff, see if that works out, worst case scenario I get a new window cutout of lexan and attach using nuts and bolts.
  
  Will end up having 512 GB nvme boot, 360 GB SSD JBOD and 2x 2TB platter drives for large file storage/archival.

[toasty99]

On 1/22/2020 at 10:04 PM, bomerr said:

My CPU came in today. It's a L bin  Might only hit 4.3Ghz stable  

Anyways stock 1660v3 is as powerful as my 4.4Ghz 5820k. OC'd it's about as powerful as the R7 2700X. The 9900k is about ~11% faster than 1660v3 but about 200% more expensive.

Overall a good upgrade and this CPU should last me another 3-5 yrs before I need to upgrade. A full decade on x99, future-proof check. 

 

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/10295190/spy/10274384

 

https://valid.x86.fr/41niw2

That's pretty identical to what mine was doing initially overclocking. Have you tried to up the baseclock a bit? I found my sweetspot was 44 multiplier with a 102.30 bclk for 4.50 GHz. I got it to 4.52 for a bit but it just won't stay stable there all the time. Should pretty easily be able to get 4.45 or something. 

[gmac82]

Rest of the parts came in from Amazon, system is built, tomorrow will be the troubleshooting/setup effort.

[bimmerman]

In case anyone has a case big enough, this is a pretty good deal on an SR-2: https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-Classified-SR-2-Motherboard-with-2x-Intel-Xeon-x5675-CPU-OC-7x-PCIE-x16/223873428149?hash=item341fe56ab5:g:1KwAAOSwhe9eK6FP

 

Someone please save me and buy this so I can be an idiot and buy racecar parts instead....

[gmac82]

1 minute ago, bimmerman said:

In case anyone has a case big enough, this is a pretty good deal on an SR-2: https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-Classified-SR-2-Motherboard-with-2x-Intel-Xeon-x5675-CPU-OC-7x-PCIE-x16/223873428149?hash=item341fe56ab5:g:1KwAAOSwhe9eK6FP

Always wanted one of those boards back in the day. That is a good deal, too bad it doesn't come with RAM

[GrockleTD]

well, my X5680 seems to be working fine, so i'm not sure why my MSI board is being an anus. the only thing i can think of at this time is maybe going to a slightly older BIOS, but suggestions are much welcome

[X-System]

Hello, I found this topic. My Gigabyte MW70-3S0 motherboard uses C612 chipset, it's a X99 version for Xeon. (CPU-Z says X99 in the mainboard tab)

 

C612 can to join in this X99 thread ?

 

The picture of my C612 rig

 

[Zando_]

1 hour ago, X-System said:

Hello, I found this topic. My Gigabyte MW70-3S0 motherboard uses C612 chipset, it's a X99 version for Xeon. (CPU-Z says X99 in the mainboard tab)

 

C612 can to join in this X99 thread ?

 

The picture of my C612 rig

 

Hell yeah! Same as how on the X58 thread, 5520 (the server chipset for that gen) systems are welcome. The server chipsets are always cool, mostly because they let you run dual CPUs, as I see you're doing. Whatcha got running in there? 

IIRC @Windows7ge has a C612 dual Xeon server as well? 

[Windows7ge]

5 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

Hell yeah! Same as how on the X58 thread, 5520 (the server chipset for that gen) systems are welcome. The server chipsets are always cool, mostly because they let you run dual CPUs, as I see you're doing. Whatcha got running in there? 

IIRC @Windows7ge has a C612 dual Xeon server as well? 

Yep. C612, dual LGA2011-v3, it's a Supermicro board. Can most more specs if need be.

[Zando_]

Just now, Windows7ge said:

Yep. C612, dual LGA2011-v3, it's a Supermicro board. Can most more specs if need be.

Gib specc and pics

[X-System]

35 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Hell yeah! Same as how on the X58 thread, 5520 (the server chipset for that gen) systems are welcome. The server chipsets are always cool, mostly because they let you run dual CPUs, as I see you're doing. Whatcha got running in there? 

IIRC @Windows7ge has a C612 dual Xeon server as well? 

My motherboard is workstation version She supports 3-way SLI / CrossFireX, full x16 signal

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/fr/Server-Motherboard/MW70-3S0-rev-10#ov

 

And my Xeon rig is for to play the games, for fun because I like it (My first dual Xeon was Prestonia LV 1.6@2.61GHz on ASUS NCCH-DL with GeForce 7800GS AGP, 13 or 14 years ago )

 

And I wait for the Xeon E5-2689 v4 (10 cores and 3.7 GHz turbo all cores) prices to drop because it costs about 1500 € unit on eBay... I don't want the ES.

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, X-System said:

My motherboard is workstation version She supports 3-way SLI / CrossFireX, full x16 signal

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/fr/Server-Motherboard/MW70-3S0-rev-10#ov

 

And my Xeon rig is for to play the games, for fun because I like it (My first dual Xeon was Prestonia LV 1.6@2.61GHz on ASUS NCCH-DL with GeForce 7800GS AGP, 13 or 14 years ago )

 

And I wait for the Xeon E5-2689 v4 (10 cores and 3.7 GHz turbo all cores) prices to drop because it costs about 1500 € unit on eBay... I don't want the ES.

Oooooooo noice. How is gaming on it, do you have games that'll take advantage of the cores you have available? 

Also oof I feel ya on that, non-ES Xeons are usually expensive lol. The only 2011-3 Xeon I have is a 4610v3, which is a super meme one lmao. 10c/20t but at 1.7GHz with no turbo, it gets beaten in multicore by a stock 7700K . Sadly top end CPU prices are still wack too, the 6950X and that big boye 22c/44t Xeon consistently stay around $700 on eBay . And then if you get the cheaper ES ones, mobo compatibility can be hella funky. 

Also reee I need to get my dual Xeon setup going, but that's an LGA 1366, Intel 5520 based rig on a temperamental SR-2 I don't have a case for lol. 

 

[Crunchy Dragon]

18 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Oooooooo noice. How is gaming on it, do you have games that'll take advantage of the cores you have available? 

Also oof I feel ya on that, non-ES Xeons are usually expensive lol. The only 2011-3 Xeon I have is a 4610v3, which is a super meme one lmao. 10c/20t but at 1.7GHz with no turbo, it gets beaten in multicore by a stock 7700K . Sadly top end CPU prices are still wack too, the 6950X and that big boye 22c/44t Xeon consistently stay around $700 on eBay . And then if you get the cheaper ES ones, mobo compatibility can be hella funky. 

Also reee I need to get my dual Xeon setup going, but that's an LGA 1366, Intel 5520 based rig on a temperamental SR-2 I don't have a case for lol.

Destiny 2 will hit all the available CPU cores, but I don't know if/how well that scales across multiple CPUs.

[GrockleTD]

26 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Also reee I need to get my dual Xeon setup going, but that's an LGA 1366, Intel 5520 based rig on a temperamental SR-2 I don't have a case for lol.

smh just put your like, 400 dollar motherboard on a pizza box. simple.

[Zando_]

9 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Destiny 2 will hit all the available CPU cores, but I don't know if/how well that scales across multiple CPUs.

Not amazingly. A 5Ghz 8600K absolutely stomped a 2700X in my testing, and that's 6 higher clocked cores vs 8c/16t at a lower speed. It'll run better on less - but faster - cores so long as you have 6 or more. 

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

Not amazingly. A 5Ghz 8600K absolutely stomped a 2700X in my testing, and that's 6 higher clocked cores vs 8c/16t at a lower speed. It'll run better on less - but faster - cores so long as you have 6 or more. 

Any chance you can bring your 2700x up to 4Ghz? We could compare 8c/16t and my 6c/12t @ 4Ghz. The high difference in clock speed makes me wonder just how much of an impact it makes.

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Any chance you can bring your 2700x up to 4Ghz? We could compare 8c/16t and my 6c/12t @ 4Ghz. The high difference in clock speed makes me wonder just how much of an impact it makes.

I don't have the 2700X anymore lol, got rid of it back in 2018, it was boring to manually OC. It'd do 4.2Ghz all core, but was slower in games than just leaving it stock with PBO. 

It has a similar IPC to Haswell-E, but those chips clock much higher. Ivy/Sandy Bridge E chips also clock high enough to absolutely stomp Zen/Zen+ into the ground (Tech Yes City has a series comparing a 2700X vs 4.6Ghz 1680v2 vs 9900K). 

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

It has a similar IPC to Haswell-E

That was the exact reason as to why I was wondering if we could compare our chips

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

That was the exact reason as to why I was wondering if we could compare our chips

If I can be arsed to actually work on the rig sometime, I do have a friend's PC with a 2600 in it that I'm supposed to fix at some point. That does 4.0 ez with 3200MHz RAM (tho the RAM is having issues so it could be a board thing, IDK, haven't troubleshot it yet). If I have the time when I eventually do get it out, I'll clock and tune it for 4.2Ghz and compare to my tuned 5820K at that same clock. 

[GrockleTD]

@Zando Bob what form factor even is the SR-2?

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, GrockleTD said:

@Zando Bob what form factor even is the SR-2?

Big F*cking Motherboard form factor.

[Zando_]

Just now, GrockleTD said:

@Zando Bob what form factor even is the SR-2?

HPTX. Bit bigger than the biggest SSI boyes, SSI CEB I think? It's about as big as an entire S340 Elite. 

Here is one next to my Evolv ATX, which is about as big as it gets for ATX Mid Towers, closer to a small full tower: