msi x399 too long time boot up

[momu12345]

I have built my new pc

Its specifications :
msi x399
ryzen 1950x Threadripper
asus gtx 1080ti
ram gskill 4 * 8 giga

samsung nvme ssd

When I turned pc on
I noticed its running too slow " boot up "
it takes from 20 to 22 second to show the image of the first " this car for msi gaming motherboard "
and take 1 minute to open windows ..

i update bios to the latest version

i clear cmos

and i try only one RAM

but still slow

this vedio for the problem :

 

 

so please help me to make the boot faster
what i do ?

[wyattzx]

Based solely on intuition and your shared video, I'm guessing that the current BIOS revision for x399 boards are having a hard time initializing the NVMe controller for the SSD. Even on proper boards NVMe SSDs take longer to boot than SATA variants, and that problem seems to be exacerbated here.

[just_dave]

You will need to wait for new updates,

That mobo is good, but MSI doesnt know how to make a working BIOS.

[Princess Luna]

Why on earths would you get MSi for x399? It is soo known already MSi is still clueless on how to make their BIOS work with Ryzen.

[DocSwag]

Unfortunately, you might just be out of luck. I know that with x299 at least post times for most mobos are in the 20-30 second range so that might just be something you'll need to deal with.

16 minutes ago, dave_k said:

You will need to wait for new updates,

That mobo is good, but MSI doesnt know how to make a working BIOS.

 

4 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Why on earths would you get MSi for x399? It is soo known already MSi is still clueless on how to make their BIOS work with Ryzen.

Their AM4 boards initially had post times issues but now they're pretty reasonable (10-15sec max iirc), plus I think the HEDT platforms tend to have higher post times.

[just_dave]

3 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Unfortunately, you might just be out of luck. I know that with x299 at least post times for most mobos are in the 20-30 second range so that might just be something you'll need to deal with.

 

Their AM4 boards initially had post times issues but now they're pretty reasonable (10-15sec max iirc), plus I think the HEDT platforms tend to have higher post times.

10-15sec on AM4 now? Thats good, maybe i will recommend their cheaper X370s

[DocSwag]

2 minutes ago, dave_k said:

10-15sec on AM4 now? Thats good, maybe i will recommend their cheaper X370s

IIRC yes, I think I asked someone on the forum that had one and they said 15 seconds or so. Still a bit on the long side but not like the horrifying >30 seconds they used to have.

 

Unfortunately though, I can't verify for sure if all x399 boards have long post times since Anandtech seems to be the only one willing to do post time measurements and they haven't reviewed any x399 boards yet  

[momu12345]

54 minutes ago, NonaHexa said:

Based solely on intuition and your shared video, I'm guessing that the current BIOS revision for x399 boards are having a hard time initializing the NVMe controller for the SSD. Even on proper boards NVMe SSDs take longer to boot than SATA variants, and that problem seems to be exacerbated here.

thx for ur replay

 

so what i do to solve this problem

change the nvme to another socket or what

[momu12345]

39 minutes ago, dave_k said:

You will need to wait for new updates,

That mobo is good, but MSI doesnt know how to make a working BIOS.

thx for ur replay

Is there anything I can do?
because I saw many reviews and no one talked about this problem

I have a fear that this is a hardware problem " from the motherboard "
or error i made during installation 

 

so is there anything I can do to make sure that all the pieces are good

[dexT]

The more complicated the board/chipset, the longer it will take to post. Go into the BIOS and disable everything you're not using. 

[just_dave]

1 minute ago, dexT said:

The more complicated the board/chipset, the longer it will take to post. Go into the BIOS and disable everything you're not using. 

Prb if he tried disabling unpopulated PCIE slots.

[dexT]

5 minutes ago, dave_k said:

Prb if he tried disabling unpopulated PCIE slots.

Everything. NICs, sata ports, S.M.A.R.T., boot from USB, multiple devices selected in boot order.

[Jumper118]

It's the 1970's carpet making it slower. If it wasn't hoovering the floor then it would be much faster. 

[momu12345]

19 hours ago, dexT said:

The more complicated the board/chipset, the longer it will take to post. Go into the BIOS and disable everything you're not using. 

thx for ur replay

 

i disabled everything but still slower

[momu12345]

19 hours ago, dave_k said:

Prb if he tried disabling unpopulated PCIE slots.

i disabled but still slower

[AncientNerd]

Disable your full screen logo in the BIOS so you can see what the POST messages are, this will let you see what the BIOS is doing during that time and what is actually taking the time. This is the old school way to debug these kinds of problems , if it was 15 years ago I would say "oh your memory check is taking all the time" or "your disk detection is hanging" but those problems don't seem to happen with modern hardware. So look at the actual POST messages and see, MSI may have something silly left on by default like "boot from the network" and it is timing out looking for a network boot device.

[Ethan_NLHW]

I had nothing but problems with my MSI X399 Gaming Pro Carbon. After two boards I got a refund and switched to Asus. I'm never buying another MSI product ever again after this experience. A lot of MSI products have been seemingly going downhill in recent years. Their effort on the X399 platform seemed half baked at best.

 

As far as your issues, my guess would be that there is some sort of issue with the BIOS not initializing things properly. I know that was my issue, even after multiple BIOS updates.

[xixou]

This is related to raid. Turn it off and boot will be fast again.

I had same issue.

As for the bios init issue, I had to use plastic spacers between the case and the motherboard to solve this issue.