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i9-7980XE: Overclocked to run all 18 cores beyond 6 GHz

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38 minutes ago, FratStar said:

Huh? That a pretty ridiculous statement to make. I love technology, but LN2 OC, Phase Change, and what not doesn't excite me in any way. Show me a super computer that uses sick cooling setup and actually does something meaningful then yeah I find that stuff cool.

 

Doesn't make me any less of an enthusiast. That's like saying you're not into sports because you don't like baseball but like basketball and football instead. There more to technology or even CPUs than overclocking especially a completely non practical solution. Just because someone doesn't fall into your definition of enthusiast doesn't mean they aren't.

Well to be fair there are data centers that use phase change cooling. Also there are liquid nitrogen cooling systems but it's out of scope of anything but top end as they run in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

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1 hour ago, Dylanc1500 said:

Well to be fair there are data centers that use phase change cooling. Also there are liquid nitrogen cooling systems but it's out of scope of anything but top end as they run in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Yep that's why I wrote show me a supercomputer (could just be servers) that have sick cool so it could be LN2 or Phase change then I'm excited when it's just extreme OC'ing for the hell of it. It's alright just not all that exciting for me really. Not that I would disrespect the effort they put in. I most certainly can't achieve what they do so there is merit to their work.


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8 hours ago, FloRolf said:

so then where is the pracital use in pretty much anything? 
Where is the use in throwing a speer 100m for an olympic medal?

Where is the use in driving really fast 60laps in an F1 car?

Where is the use in PC gaming?

Where is the use in anything?

 

Despite what the others say I understand your meaning.

 

Drag cars are only good for a few runs then the engine needs to be completely overhauled with many parts being binned (not too mention the running gear as well).  They do it for the win and for the enthusiasm, not because there is any practical use gained from the experience for everyday drivers or even hot rodders for that matter.  Same here, the reason they do it is not to gain some sort of practical comparison or method for everyday users, but just because it is what it is, a competition.

 

 

 

 


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26 minutes ago, FratStar said:

Yep that's why I wrote show me a supercomputer (could just be servers) that have sick cool so it could be LN2 or Phase change then I'm excited when it's just extreme OC'ing for the hell of it. It's alright just not all that exciting for me really. Not that I would disrespect the effort they put in. I most certainly can't achieve what they do so there is merit to their work.

Well I agree those kind of things are definitely more impressive to me as well, but most people (even enthusiasts), don't know or care about that kind of thing. Me personally I'm more excited by the new Z14 chip that runs at 5.2GHz and has 6MB of L2 cache per core and 128MB of L3 cache per chip. Heck you can put 6 in one drawer and have 672MB of L4 eDRAM cache.

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9 hours ago, mynameisjuan said:

This is like saying, well if I use racing fuel, new air intake and flames on my cobalt on the sides I can reach 130mph. Like cool bro, but the rest of us are driving 60 99% of the time. Basically bragging rights but means jack all in terms of real world use, even for overclockers

It's not even that. It's like if you bore out the engine to max capacity and use a racing fuel NOx mix you'd be able to do 120 instead of 100, but the gas mileage is a thousandth of a mile to the gallon.

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10 hours ago, WereCat said:

it is competition

 

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16 hours ago, FratStar said:

Huh? That a pretty ridiculous statement to make. I love technology, but LN2 OC, Phase Change, and what not doesn't excite me in any way. Show me a super computer that uses sick cooling setup and actually does something meaningful then yeah I find that stuff cool.

 

Doesn't make me any less of an enthusiast. That's like saying you're not into sports because you don't like baseball but like basketball and football instead. There more to technology or even CPUs than overclocking especially a completely non practical solution. Just because someone doesn't fall into your definition of enthusiast doesn't mean they aren't.

 

It's not ridiculous at all.

 

My point has nothing to do with the current use case of an LN2 cooling solution or an insinuation that one should be invested in the extreme overclocking world.

 

I love how this whole argument started from the complete discrimination of LN2 overclocking (not newsworthy) and that idea is just dismissed and as soon as I defend it's importance as a staple of the computer enthusiast community.

 

I have no problem agreeing that "tech enthusiast" may be too broad, computer enthusiast is more accurate. I'm not talking about caring about a certain aspect, I'm criticizing the dismissal. 

 

I guess it is 2017 so we have to pander to people and let them label themselves sports car enthusiasts even though they dismiss a Bugatti Veyron on a drag strip because it's not practical.


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2 hours ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

I have no problem agreeing that "tech enthusiast" may be too broad, computer enthusiast is more accurate. I'm not talking about caring about a certain aspect, I'm criticizing the dismissal.

 

I guess it is 2017 so we have to pander to people and let them label themselves sports car enthusiasts even though they dismiss a Bugatti Veyron on a drag strip because it's not practical.

Or, you know, just call yourself an "overclocking enthusiast".  OC'ing is hardly the be-all/end-all of tech.

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On 9/25/2017 at 3:23 PM, mynameisjuan said:

How can you compete when its a dice roll on how lucky you are with your die?

Poker and MTG are competitive too. There's luck involved in almost any sport as well.


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2 hours ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

 

It's not ridiculous at all.

 

My point has nothing to do with the current use case of an LN2 cooling solution or an insinuation that one should be invested in the extreme overclocking world.

 

I love how this whole argument started from the complete discrimination of LN2 overclocking (not newsworthy) and that idea is just dismissed and as soon as I defend it's importance as a staple of the computer enthusiast community.

 

I have no problem agreeing that "tech enthusiast" may be too broad, computer enthusiast is more accurate. I'm not talking about caring about a certain aspect, I'm criticizing the dismissal. 

 

I guess it is 2017 so we have to pander to people and let them label themselves sports car enthusiasts even though they dismiss a Bugatti Veyron on a drag strip because it's not practical.

The younger generation on the internet instantly and aggressively shouts down anything they don't take part in or don't understand.

 

I blame the teachers and educational institutions as a whole :D


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17 minutes ago, dexT said:

The younger generation on the internet instantly and aggressively shouts down anything they don't take part in or don't understand.

 

I blame the teachers and educational institutions as a whole :D

I blame Apple. Children can actually navigate iOS without having to learn something so they begin to believe that they're techno-wizards or something.


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3 minutes ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

I blame Apple. Children can actually navigate iOS without having to learn something so they begin to believe that they're techno-wizards or something.

 

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19 hours ago, Dylanc1500 said:

Well to be fair there are data centers that use phase change cooling. Also there are liquid nitrogen cooling systems but it's out of scope of anything but top end as they run in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Yep, I would run a phase change myself, but darn those things are expensive.  I do know a few peeps who do rock those and others that rock other different styles of cooling than just air or water.  Can be very interesting to look at all the variety of ways to cool, even with water (I seen people use from glass coke bottles for a res to car copper radiators).


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1 hour ago, Dylanc1500 said:

They exist. However they are typically in high end data centers.

Okay to clarify, I'd like to see that on a scale that could be afforded in an enthusiast system - say under $15k :D

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Just now, AncientNerd said:

Okay to clarify, I'd like to see that on a scale that could be afforded in an enthusiast system - say under $15k :D

Well when that happens let me know because I'm going to expidite that to my house.

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19 minutes ago, AncientNerd said:

Okay to clarify, I'd like to see that on a scale that could be afforded in an enthusiast system - say under $15k :D

It would be baller as hell, but I don't even know what it would take to effectively let LN2 boil, recapture it, and then condense it back to liquid.  Not to mention the pumps and gaskets and stuff probably have to have zero contact with the fluid since they'll become brittle at that temperature.  And you'd have to put your desktop in a purge box (inert gas environment) to not have eventual condensation creep that is unavoidable no matter how much insulating you do.

 

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