Skip coffee lake? And go for cannon or ice lake?

[lonewolf2887]

I'm not looking to upgrade my build till late into 2018 or early 2019 my current cpu is I7 7700k I feel it'll be fine for what I do which is game design and gaming.The parts i was considering upgrading was monitor to 4k or 2k 144hz which ever is do able at the time im currently using 1080p 144hz with gtx 1070 Asus strix which I'm gonna upgrade to either 2070 or 2080 and good mobo.

[Jurrunio]

 Ask till that time. Things change quickly.

[knightslugger]

3 minutes ago, lonewolf2887 said:

I'm not looking to upgrade my build till late into 2018 or early 2019 my current cpu is I7 7700k I feel it'll be fine for what I do which is game design and gaming.The parts i was considering upgrading was monitor to 4k or 2k 144hz which ever is do able at the time im currently using 1080p 144hz with gtx 1070 Asus strix which I'm gonna upgrade to either 2070 or 2080 and good mobo.

yes.

[Damascus]

Wait for cannon at least.

[Batteries Included]

Rebranded Kaby Lake I mean coffee lake...is mostly the same as Kaby Lake unless you use a mobile chip. I would wait.

[lonewolf2887]

Well my description of late was bit poor I mean around second half but it will depend on whats out at the time if it doesn't seem to much improvements then I'll hold off longer cause two additional cores for 15 to 30 % increase isn't to interesting when i could wait longer for better.

[LienusLateTips]

Wait for Cannonlake or Zen+. Cannon Lake will be 2019 (I think) and 10nm. Zen+ is next year and 7nm

[lonewolf2887]

Well if cannon lake goes around similar release as coffee is then it could end up being Q4 2018 depends on when 'zen 2' comes and how much better it is.Also not to much info on cannon yet so I'm holding out till more is announced it's why I added ice lake.

[QuantumBit]

4 minutes ago, JDE said:

Wait for Cannonlake or Zen+. Cannon Lake will be 2019 (I think) and 10nm. Zen+ is next year and 7nm

How do you know?

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, QuantumBit said:

How do you know?

Cannonlake was always going to be 10nm

 

Zen+ is 7nm and probably next year since that's what AMD says

 

 

 

 

but AMD time is worse than Valve time

[QuantumBit]

Just now, JDE said:

Cannonlake was always going to be 10nm

 

Zen+ is 7nm and probably next year since that's what AMD says

 

 

 

 

but AMD time is worse than Valve time

If we cant even get 10nm I doubt we can get 7 within a year, but cannonlake being 10nm in 2 years is believable.

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, QuantumBit said:

If we cant even get 10nm I doubt we can get 7 within a year, but cannonlake being 10nm in 2 years is believable.

http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-2-zen-3-7nm-cpu-architecture-details/

 

but it's wccftech take it with a grain of salt

[lonewolf2887]

So just personal expecation for cannon lake it'll be obviously first step in 10nm cpu but spec guess maybe 8/16 cores something like that this just personal thoughts but I don't think it we'll see zen 2 till  half next year or later due to work being delayed till january 2018 just some speculation/opinion from current news.

 

Well putting cpu aside I'm not sure about volta 2070 or 2080 cause early 2019 could have 2080 ti no?

 

So either zen 2 or cannon lake thanks for the help just gonna have to wait on mobo too go with it.

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, lonewolf2887 said:

So either zen 2 or cannon lake thanks for the help just gonna have to wait on mobo too go with it.

Or Zen 3.

[lonewolf2887]

Zen 3 seems like it'll come out in 2019 same for ice lake.

[Zeitec]

1 hour ago, Batteries Included said:

Rebranded Kaby Lake I mean coffee lake...is mostly the same as Kaby Lake unless you use a mobile chip. I would wait.

Yeah dude a 50% increase in core/thread count makes no difference. That's why the 1600x at lower clockspeeds and IPC is about equal to the 7700k in multithreaded workloads. Because core count doesn't matter. 

[CostcoSamples]

Zen 2 should be a pretty nice improvement.  I wouldn't be surprised if they exceed Intel in IPC.

 

Save your money for a nice display and GPU upgrade next year.  Keep your 7700k for at least 2-3 years.  Wait for 10nm or 7nm CPUs.

[minervx]

An i7-7700k has plenty of life left in it.  Upgrading in a few months would be ridiculous.

[lonewolf2887]

I know its ridiculous this is just future upgrade plan in advance having a basic template will lead to eaiser production.

[Jon Jon]

24 minutes ago, lonewolf2887 said:

I know its ridiculous this is just future upgrade plan in advance having a basic template will lead to eaiser production.

You don't really have a basic template because you are on the Intel platform.

 

No matter the choice you make, you will be getting a new motherboard and CPU.

 

That's in your template.

 

So just wait it out and I would honestly wait until your i7-7700K is giving you performance grief.

 

The only reason I finally upgraded from my Ivy Bridge build was because I was getting into PLEX and Streaming, which was really being throttled by my i5 ivy bridge. Paired with the limited PCI-E lanes and throttling for the expansion cards I wanted, and here we are. That's when you upgrade, unless the performance bump (including the added cost) save you money in productivity in the time frame you expect to use it for work related tasks.

 

What kind of work are you using the machine for? You say game design, but what aspects specifically?

[just_dave]

12 hours ago, QuantumBit said:

If we cant even get 10nm I doubt we can get 7 within a year, but cannonlake being 10nm in 2 years is believable.

You should know that Globalfoundries 7nm LP FinFET is already available for use.

[timtexx]

why would some1 upgrade a 7700k? its the best gaming cpu and will probably be in the top list  for atleast some more years. 

[lonewolf2887]

Well I never stated I stick to either  just intel or just amd so that assumption was pointless the basic template being that there is possible choices to start laying ground work for future upgrade/possible new build.I said might hold of till early 2019 if I do start fresh I'd either sell the old rig or use it as back up.

[knightslugger]

14 hours ago, lonewolf2887 said:

Well putting cpu aside I'm not sure about volta 2070 or 2080 cause early 2019 could have 2080 ti no?

Keep waiting, and you'll never have anything...

[lonewolf2887]

Dude that wasn't exactly needed  im just considering upgrade choices so either talk relivant not time wasting.