Need CPU for Gaming/Editing Build

[tommy3010]

Hi  all looking  to build computer for the kids not sure to go amd or intel it will be used for gaming and little photos editing 

[Fluffybakon]

4 minutes ago, tommy3010 said:

Hi  all looking  to build computer for the kids not sure to go amd or intel it will be used for gaming and little photos editing 

Absolutely amd at this point. A ryzen 3 1200 and a b350 mobo will go a long way, especially for photo editing.

 

Good luck!

 

-Lukas

[3 Lions]

Something like this should be good enough for your kids...

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c78rKZ

[Droidbot]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($156.08 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($68.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.87 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Phoenix Video Card  ($144.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($35.79 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $565.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-08 06:32 EDT-0400

 

Room to move, with hexa and octa cores on the B350 platform, and power supply wattage good enough for even a 1080Ti in the future. 

[Ashley MLP Fangirl]

why is everybody recommending ryzen? jayztwocents proved that even a pentium will outperform a ryzen 1200... 

 

what is your budget? and "gaming" is very vague. what games?

[TSL]

5 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

and power supply wattage good enough for even a 1080Ti in the future. 

A 1080ti is not a good idea for 550w psu. yes i know that it will run perfectly fine, but with a cpu powerful enough not to bottleneck that card and then the card itself - the total system wattage is way above the efficiency curve of a 550w psu... it would work, but you gotta be realistic...

[TSL]

What's the budget for this build?

[AlTech]

32 minutes ago, tommy3010 said:

Hi  all looking  to build computer for the kids not sure to go amd or intel it will be used for gaming and little photos editing 

As others have said Ryzen 3 1200 and a B350 motherboard will be fine.

 

What's your budget?

[Ashley MLP Fangirl]

3 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

As others have said Ryzen 3 1200 and a B350 motherboard will be fine.

 

What's your budget?

even a Pentium is better than that cpu. watch jayztwocents latest video. 

[Droidbot]

5 minutes ago, TSL said:

A 1080ti is not a good idea for 550w psu. yes i know that it will run perfectly fine, but with a cpu powerful enough not to bottleneck that card and then the card itself - the total system wattage is way above the efficiency curve of a 550w psu... it would work, but you gotta be realistic...

Huh? Even with an i7 4960X, this is the power draw numbers AnandTech got.. 

 

 

also - what the fuck does the efficiency curve have to do with this? 

Did you pull that term off the back of a PSU box and decide to use it in a debate? 

 

if it's about keeping efficient under a load of around 400-500w, you do realize that for 80+Gold certification, the PSU needs to be at least 87% efficient under full load that it is rated for. 

[AlTech]

On 9/8/2017 at 6:50 PM, firelighter487 said:

even a Pentium is better than that cpu. watch jayztwocents latest video. 

A Ryzen 3 CPU can easily beat a Pentium or i3 CPU. In some programs which are not optimized well enough, A Pentium may be slightly faster.

 

For the most part, a Ryzen 3 CPU is better than a Pentium or a Core i3 CPU.

 

On 9/8/2017 at 6:39 PM, firelighter487 said:

why is everybody recommending ryzen? jayztwocents proved that even a pentium will outperform a ryzen 1200... 

JayzTwoCents is not the most reputable person on the internet. Countless other sources have proved that Ryzen is a great product compared to Intel.

 

[TSL]

On 9/8/2017 at 5:54 AM, Droidbot said:

Huh? Even with an i7 4960X, this is the power draw numbers AnandTech got.. 

 

also - what the fuck does the efficiency curve have to do with this? 

Did you pull that term off the back of a PSU box and decide to use it in a debate? 

 

if it's about keeping efficient under a load of around 400-500w, you do realize that for 80+Gold certification, the PSU needs to be at least 87% efficient under full load that it is rated for. 

I know how PSU ratings work, a psu is most efficient running between 50-60% of its total possible capacity. I know it needs to attain certain efficiency levels at higher wattages to gain its efficiency rating. however a 650W PSU would be much more efficient as, 400/650 * 100 = 61%. where as 400/550 * 100 = 73%. Those efficiency curves aren't just all marketing mayhem from manufacturers, they do hold an element of truth to them. a 1080ti with supporting system will run perfectly fine on a 550w psu, i have no doubts, but regardless of its efficiency rating, it will be far less efficient in its loss of power than a 650 PSU (and then theres overclocking to consider )

 

On 9/8/2017 at 6:00 AM, AluminiumTech said:

JayzTwoCents is not the most reputable person on the internet. Countless other sources have proved that Ryzen is a great product compared to Intel.

Then again, it was evident in his video that the pentium is better in benchmarks and gaming - hes not just going to coin numbers from thin air, they are legit and reputable... the pentium probably wouldnt be as good in rendering (i dont have numbers) but thats due to a lack of physical cores on the pentiums side...

[Ashley MLP Fangirl]

Just now, AluminiumTech said:

JayzTwoCents is not the most reputable person on the internet. Countless other sources have proved that Ryzen is a great product compared to Intel.

 

the pentium came out on top... why is that? did he not test with optimized games or something?

[Droidbot]

1 minute ago, TSL said:

I know how PSU ratings work, a psu is most efficient running between 50-60% of its total possible capacity. I know it needs to attain certain efficiency levels at higher wattages to gain its efficiency rating. however a 650W PSU would be much more efficient as, 400/650 * 100 = 61%. where as 400/550 * 100 = 73%. Those efficiency curves aren't just all marketing mayhem from manufacturers, they do hold an element of truth to them. a 1080ti with supporting system will run perfectly fine on a 550w psu, i have no doubts, but regardless of its efficiency rating, it will be far less efficient in its loss of power than a 650 PSU (and then theres overclocking to consider )

While I agree that the headroom of a 650W PSU is sort of 'peace of mind' for OC. 

 

Efficiency curve for this unit is very, very clean. 

 

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story3&reid=366

Check the bottom table, this is cold tests.

 

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=366

And it has no trouble hitting Gold efficiency even in the hotbox hitting 41c. 

[TSL]

On 9/8/2017 at 6:05 AM, Droidbot said:

While I agree that the headroom of a 650W PSU is sort of 'peace of mind' for OC. 

 

Efficiency curve for this unit is very, very clean. 

 

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story3&reid=366

Check the bottom table, this is cold tests.

 

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=366

And it has no trouble hitting Gold efficiency even in the hotbox hitting 41c. 

I agree it is a very good PSU, but as you said, for a complete picture covering all possibilities with that sort of high end hardware, you don't want to be cutting the psu wattage as fine as possible... regardless of whether it 'works fine' or not

 

On 9/8/2017 at 5:33 AM, Droidbot said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($156.08 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($68.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.87 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Phoenix Video Card  ($144.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($35.79 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $565.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-08 06:32 EDT-0400

 

This build is quite a good option btw...  perhaps consider an SSD to throw in to make things that much better.

[NumLock21]

3 hours ago, tommy3010 said:

Hi  all looking  to build computer for the kids not sure to go amd or intel it will be used for gaming and little photos editing 

What is your budget? Do you need a os and peripherals as well as a monitor?

Sorry to ask this but, how old are your kids? 

[tommy3010]

On 9/8/2017 at 5:39 AM, firelighter487 said:

why is everybody recommending ryzen? jayztwocents proved that even a pentium will outperform a ryzen 1200... 

 

what is your budget? and "gaming" is very vague. what games?

about 1000 

16 hours ago, tommy3010 said:

about 1000 

sorry mine-craft things like  that 

On 9/8/2017 at 5:41 AM, TSL said:

What's the budget for this build?

1000 ish 

On 9/8/2017 at 8:23 AM, NumLock21 said:

What is your budget? Do you need a os and peripherals as well as a monitor?

Sorry to ask this but, how old are your kids? 

13 and 1000 uk pounds ish 

[NumLock21]

Just now, tommy3010 said:

13 and 1000 uk pounds ish 

Only the computer and nothing else?

[tommy3010]

16 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

Only the computer and nothing else?

yes

i wanted it to last a bit to i dont want one that ok ish want a bit of power 

[Nena Trinity]

11 hours ago, firelighter487 said:

why is everybody recommending ryzen? jayztwocents proved that even a pentium will outperform a ryzen 1200... 

 

what is your budget? and "gaming" is very vague. what games?

That test was not really proper it was all opinion based by the testers, also Ryzen can be OCed while Pentium cannot.

[NumLock21]

• Intel build. Why Intel? Stability. AMD Ryzen has mature since launch. Imo, they need to mature some more, before it's safe to be suggest for a build.
• 8GB of ram is good enough
• Hybrid drive for that SSD like performance and the capacity of a HDD.
• GTX 1050Ti for the games they play now as well as games they want to get in the near future
• Windows 10 retail license, so it can be transfer, when you build a new PC.
• Some matching parts, like mobo, case, and, gpu, to make it look nice and awesome.
• IMO even a Kaby Lake Pentium dual core is good enough for your kids.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7400 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£150.49 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B250H Gaming ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£100.67 @ More Computers)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (£67.50 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  (£66.59 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB STRIX Video Card  (£161.84 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£39.96 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£85.97 @ Ebuyer)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit  (£100.37 @ More Computers)
Total: £773.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-08 23:13 BST+0100

 

 

[TSL]

Ryzen 1600 for all those cores and excellent gaming performance (and the ability to overclock for extra performance), 16GB RAM @ 3000MHz so you can get the most out of the CPU and not worry about capacity in the future, 240GB SSD as a boot drive and a few other applications like a web browser for the snappy speed. 1TB HDD for mass storage of games etc, GTX 1060 6GB to get excellent gaming performance across the board in 1080p - no issues. Finally a beautiful tempered glass case to look stylish and a decent PSU.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/

[Ashley MLP Fangirl]

12 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

• Intel build. Why Intel? Stability. AMD Ryzen has mature since launch. Imo, they need to mature some more, before it's safe to be suggest for a build.
• 8GB of ram is good enough
• Hybrid drive for that SSD like performance and the capacity of a HDD.
• GTX 1050Ti for the games they play now as well as games they want to get in the near future
• Windows 10 retail license, so it can be transfer, when you build a new PC.
• Some matching parts, like mobo, case, and, gpu, to make it look nice and awesome.
• IMO even a Kaby Lake Pentium dual core is good enough for your kids.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7400 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£150.49 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B250H Gaming ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£100.67 @ More Computers)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (£67.50 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  (£66.59 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB STRIX Video Card  (£161.84 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£39.96 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£85.97 @ Ebuyer)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit  (£100.37 @ More Computers)
Total: £773.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-08 23:13 BST+0100

 

 

i would add a 120gb ssd to this. other than that, it's a good build.

[Droidbot]

13 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

• Intel build. Why Intel? Stability. AMD Ryzen has mature since launch. Imo, they need to mature some more, before it's safe to be suggest for a build

 

what

 

fucking what

 

Ryzen is stable as all hell now, it's rock solid even for memory compatibility since agesa 1006. 

[DarkSmith2]

wouldnt recommend Ryzen for kids, even well knowledged people still fiddle with it. Buy something that has to be set once and keeps going ...