is 1440 worth it?

[fastcar123]

I am looking into getting a high refresh rate monitor. I currently have a 21:9 panel and a 144Hz 16:9 panel. 

 

I want to get a high refresh rate 21:9 panel.

I am currently looking at a Crossover brand monitor from Korea. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Limited-Crossover-3412UM-AHIPS-BOOST-CLOCK-95Hz-3440-x-1440-34-Gaming-Monitor/332309880567?rt=nc&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D45728%26meid%3De102ecdbab654dd3a885aad4a7eb89b5%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dag%26sd%3D222529104468&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

I really do want this monitor and I have bought Korean monitors before. But I also don't want to be disappointed if the higher resolution isn't worth the extra money involved. 

So by that I want to know that my graphics card can handle that and I also want to know if I will even be able to tell the difference with the higher resolution.

 

So my question is with a GTX980 (non Ti) is 3440x1440 worth it? or should I just stick with 2560X1080?

 

I play 

-skyrim 

-fallout4 

-starcraft II

-just cause 3

and when it comes out destiny 2. 

 

I am mainly building for Destiny 2 because I really loved the first one. 

 

Should I shoot for 3440x1440 with 95hz (which for me is more than playable)

or should I save $300 ish for a standard resolution of 2560x1080?

[WereCat]

You will need to play most games on Medium settings to get the 60FPS with GTX 980 on 3440x1440

[fastcar123]

so at that point I would sacrifice high res textures with high res display? at that point it almost seems to even out

[Jurrunio]

Just now, fastcar123 said:

so at that point I would sacrifice high res textures with high res display? at that point it almost seems to even out

maybe a new graphics card in that case. BTW increasing texture settings doesnt worsen FPS much if you have sufficient VRAM. What kills fps is usually render distance and details (number of rendered objects), as well as lighting.

[Imbellis]

3 minutes ago, fastcar123 said:

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I'm not sure that the video card will be enough to run at high frame rates. It'll be enough to play most games but perhaps not at highest settings.

I'm going to be in the minority here, but I'd personally go with the 2560x1080. At that resolution (on a 20" monitor), the resolution looks fine.

 

Upgrading your resolution is a bit like smoking in the sense that after you start (move up), it's really hard to go back down. I'd save the money for improvements elsewhere in the rig or save the money for when you need it.

[fastcar123]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

maybe a new graphics card in that case. BTW increasing texture settings doesnt worsen FPS much if you have sufficient VRAM. What kills fps is usually render distance and details (number of rendered objects)

I don't intend on replacing my graphics card any time soon just because of the inflation

[ItsMitch]

9 minutes ago, fastcar123 said:

-starcraft II

 

Talking from experience, this game is only mainly optimised for 2 cores because it's a blizz game but yeah it can run it in 1440p, probs on mid settings. 

[fastcar123]

I aopparently cant find a 21:9 1080 monitor for less than $500. At that price I may as well go with the higher resolution one

 

Also the difference between 75hz and 95hz. Is that even really noticeable?

[Jurrunio]

Just now, fastcar123 said:

Also the difference between 75hz and 95hz. Is that even really noticeable?

Not so much. Maybe only in side-by-side comparison

[fastcar123]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

Not so much. Maybe only in side-by-side comparison

then maybe I should just not buy a monitor at all? I currently have a 2560x1080 75hz panel at 29 inches.

 

if that's the case I need to fix just cause 3 really bad. I was worried Destiny 2 would have that problem too , and that would kill the game for me

[Dang3r D3bbi3]

I'm gonna be the Debbie Downer here....;), and say at 3440x1440p I am unsure you 980 can run all those games at a decent frame rate and texture, BUT its up to you if those things are important. Moving on both 2560x1080 and 3440x1440 are niche resolutions but 3440x1440 is more popular i believe, If you say you can play all those games at good quality then yeah you should be good. Destiny 2 is like Fallout 4 and Skyrim with the open world type if you see what i am saying, It might take advantage of DX12 but it will probably be a DX11 game. However my biggest concern is when you move into higher res and bigger games, you need more VRAM and a faster GPU. If your looking for high FPS, good quality, and high res you might need a 1080/1080 Ti. 

[Jurrunio]

Just now, fastcar123 said:

then maybe I should just not buy a monitor at all? I currently have a 2560x1080 75hz panel at 29 inches.

 

if that's the case I need to fix just cause 3 really bad. I was worried Destiny 2 would have that problem too , and that would kill the game for me

I mean, 75Hz to 95Hz isnt significant, but increased resolution is.

 

You might not be able to fully experience that in games with your graphics card, but it will show the difference when watching high resolution pictures/videos/films or playing old games.

[fastcar123]

7 minutes ago, Dang3r D3bbi3 said:

I'm gonna be the Debbie Downer here....;), and say at 3440x1440p I am unsure you 980 can run all those games at a decent frame rate and texture, BUT its up to you if those things are important. Moving on both 2560x1080 and 3440x1440 are niche resolutions but 3440x1440 is more popular i believe, If you say you can play all those games at good quality then yeah you should be good. Destiny 2 is like Fallout 4 and Skyrim with the open world type if you see what i am saying, It might take advantage of DX12 but it will probably be a DX11 game. However my biggest concern is when you move into higher res and bigger games, you need more VRAM and a faster GPU. If your looking for high FPS, good quality, and high res you might need a 1080/1080 Ti. 

Sometimes I need someone to tell me its not worth it so I don't spend a whole crap ton of money. it's ok to Debbie down sometimes.

 

Really? I guess I just thought that last generation top tier stuff would still be able to hold its own. I don't see myself getting a 1080ti until its 5 gens out of date, due to their high price. 

6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I mean, 75Hz to 95Hz isnt significant, but increased resolution is.

 

You might not be able to fully experience that in games with your graphics card, but it will show the difference when watching high resolution pictures/videos/films or playing old games.

I actually don't do that very often. I would've liked to get back into 3D design, but money. Right now this rig is mainly for gaming.

[Dang3r D3bbi3]

Also after reading some more on the monitor, I found that it has Freesync and you have an Nvidia GPU but I mean that doesnt matter to everyone but i wanted to say if you spent this much time trying to find a good deal on a monitor that you want but is still a knock off brand then I suggest save your money and wait to get a higher end 3440x1440 144hz G-sync, if you want to go all out. However I am not saying you have to, I am just suggesting it as it is still up to you.

[fastcar123]

1 minute ago, Dang3r D3bbi3 said:

Also after reading some more on the monitor, I found that it has Freesync and you have an Nvidia GPU but I mean that doesnt matter to everyone but i wanted to say if you spent this much time trying to find a good deal on a monitor that you want but is still a knock off brand then I suggest save your money and wait to get a higher end 3440x1440 144hz G-sync, if you want to go all out. However I am not saying you have to, I am just suggesting it as it is still up to you.

Yea I knew that would be an issue. However do you not think I could run it at 95Hz without freesync?

[Dang3r D3bbi3]

Just now, fastcar123 said:

Yea I knew that would be an issue. However do you not think I could run it at 95Hz without freesync?

I dont actually know, usually on the monitors selling pages they list Freesync range and 95Hz seems like it would be in that range. I dont think you could get 95Hz but I have heard of non-Freesync 75Hz monitors, so that might work. 

[fastcar123]

14 minutes ago, Dang3r D3bbi3 said:

I dont actually know, usually on the monitors selling pages they list Freesync range and 95Hz seems like it would be in that range. I dont think you could get 95Hz but I have heard of non-Freesync 75Hz monitors, so that might work. 

My current panel is like that. 75 hz without and kind of sync

[gbergeron]

1 hour ago, fastcar123 said:

I am looking into getting a high refresh rate monitor. I currently have a 21:9 panel and a 144Hz 16:9 panel. 

 

I want to get a high refresh rate 21:9 panel.

I am currently looking at a Crossover brand monitor from Korea. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Limited-Crossover-3412UM-AHIPS-BOOST-CLOCK-95Hz-3440-x-1440-34-Gaming-Monitor/332309880567?rt=nc&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D45728%26meid%3De102ecdbab654dd3a885aad4a7eb89b5%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dag%26sd%3D222529104468&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

I really do want this monitor and I have bought Korean monitors before. But I also don't want to be disappointed if the higher resolution isn't worth the extra money involved. 

So by that I want to know that my graphics card can handle that and I also want to know if I will even be able to tell the difference with the higher resolution.

 

So my question is with a GTX980 (non Ti) is 3440x1440 worth it? or should I just stick with 2560X1080?

 

I play 

-skyrim 

-fallout4 

-starcraft II

-just cause 3

and when it comes out destiny 2. 

 

I am mainly building for Destiny 2 because I really loved the first one. 

 

Should I shoot for 3440x1440 with 95hz (which for me is more than playable)

or should I save $300 ish for a standard resolution of 2560x1080?

I would wait for volta GPU and see benchmarks, if they have good performance over pascal, then I believe we can move on higher resolution for cheaper $  

980 still decent nowadays, really depends on your budget also...

Meanwhile, you can always use DSR in nvidia control panel and enable higher resolution on  your 1080p screen, the results are not as good as the native 4K resolution per example, but you can tell the difference, it makes the details a lot better, with my 1070, i often use 2160p resolution, most recent games run in 1080p or maximum 1440p tho because DSR use as much power as the native resolution, for less quality, but satill a nice gain over the native 1080p    

[hammer3339]

yeah get a gtx1080/1080ti if you want to get close to decent framerates on a 1440 ultrawide. currently having a similar crisis wondering if my 1080 can handle an ultrawide, think ill just stick with a 2k 1440p display and high refresh rate as a replacement for my 1080p 16:9

 

seems that reviewers indicate that to retain ultra settings at 60fps 1440p 16:9 is about the max even a 1080 can handle

[xsimplyjosh]

wouldn't go ultrawide 100hz if i were u at 1440p... you'll need a better graphics to push that kind of ideal res + frame rates. but that being said i think the value proposition of a 1080/1080ti is quite worth it if u cash in on amazon and not your local retailer... for me i see them at 750/1000aud for boht 1080 n 1080ti respectively... which is still a good 150-200aud lower than ertail shops which can be the ultimatum difference for those on a budget...

 

im on a 1080ti on a standard 2560x1440p at 165hz max frame rate... and i'm mustering around 120-155fps on average on most games which i find amazing already and smooth... probably will be 100fps or so on a 3440x1440p monitor i guess. give or take. so yea

 

[fastcar123]

Hm. So it sounds like to me from what everyone is saying that the 980 just couldn't handle 3440x1440.

7 hours ago, gbergeron said:

I would wait for volta GPU and see benchmarks, if they have good performance over pascal, then I believe we can move on higher resolution for cheaper $  

980 still decent nowadays, really depends on your budget also...

Meanwhile, you can always use DSR in nvidia control panel and enable higher resolution on  your 1080p screen, the results are not as good as the native 4K resolution per example, but you can tell the difference, it makes the details a lot better, with my 1070, i often use 2160p resolution, most recent games run in 1080p or maximum 1440p tho because DSR use as much power as the native resolution, for less quality, but satill a nice gain over the native 1080p    

I could try that. I didnt realize that existed on my card. I guess I just assumed that because I couldnt findthe setting. If nothing else it would prove what everyone is saying.

 

1080 and 1080ti territory is beyond my price range for pretty much ever. And I assumed that a panel like this would also be. When I saw this one though, I got excited.

 

So overall what's better higher game settings or higher resolution?

[gbergeron]

2 hours ago, fastcar123 said:

Hm. So it sounds like to me from what everyone is saying that the 980 just couldn't handle 3440x1440.

I could try that. I didnt realize that existed on my card. I guess I just assumed that because I couldnt findthe setting. If nothing else it would prove what everyone is saying.

 

1080 and 1080ti territory is beyond my price range for pretty much ever. And I assumed that a panel like this would also be. When I saw this one though, I got excited.

 

So overall what's better higher game settings or higher resolution?

Depends... I would say better resolution... but at a point you still want a minimum of details... quality...

Try nvidia panel, 3d settings, DSR : 1.5x 2x 3x 4x  or enable all resolutions, then in your games, you can set higher resolution. I almost always use 1440p for my gtx 1070

 

When playing less demanding games I can use 2160p  

The result are actually pretty good, just because of DSR I will keep my 1080p screen until 1440p 144hz prices drop  

[fastcar123]

10 minutes ago, gbergeron said:

Depends... I would say better resolution... but at a point you still want a minimum of details... quality...

Try nvidia panel, 3d settings, DSR : 1.5x 2x 3x 4x  or enable all resolutions, then in your games, you can set higher resolution. I almost always use 1440p for my gtx 1070

 

When playing less demanding games I can use 2160p  

The result are actually pretty good, just because of DSR I will keep my 1080p screen until 1440p 144hz prices drop  

Ill give this a try when I get home.

You noticed a visual dofference with dsr?

I used virtual super resolution on my rx480 and noticed no real effect.

[gbergeron]

18 minutes ago, fastcar123 said:

Ill give this a try when I get home.

You noticed a visual dofference with dsr?

I used virtual super resolution on my rx480 and noticed no real effect.

Dude.... difference ? Its HUGE.

My rainbow six siege looks like shit in 1080p and it looks so smooth in 4K.... it eats the FPS tho....

 

I would say it look like 75% as good as a native 4K resolution. so not bad at all !

[fastcar123]

9 minutes ago, gbergeron said:

Dude.... difference ? Its HUGE.

My rainbow six siege looks like shit in 1080p and it looks so smooth in 4K.... it eats the FPS tho....

 

I would say it look like 75% as good as a native 4K resolution. so not bad at all !

Hey 75% better and its free.

If there really is higher visuals from that I should just do that and forget a new monitor entirely