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I'll go for the I9 7900X my wallet will scream at me for a few months but I know It'll be a great upgrade in the end.

This thing will be overclocked for sure, let's see where I can push it. 

Hiya, I'm about to update my main system.

I really want to get the ROG Rampage VI Extreme x299 it has the 2066socket

So my question is in what should I invest? The I7 7820x or the I9 7900x?

My first thought was going fro the 7820x but then I feel like I am missing out. 

I need the cores for rendering 3D art, textures, etc. so then the i9 7900X would be better choice?

 

What do you think? Please let me know :3 

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The i9 will definitely give you more performance. On the other hand, it costs a boatload more. They'll both be able to render fine, it's just a case of one being somewhat faster.

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what programs are you using for rendering?

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x299 is a mess, I would recommend a ryzen threadripper instead - they are cheaper and faster if you need more cores. If you really want to go intel for some reason, the 7820x will leave you with half your motherboard not working so I'd just go for the i9.

 

Before you buy anything, are you 100% sure your work requires a high core count?

 

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1 minute ago, Sauron said:

the 7820x will leave you with half your motherboard not working so I'd just go for the i9.

2 minutes ago, Gungpae said:

Intel's X299 platform is weird. I'd say get the i9

Huh? The 7820X is a Skylake-X CPU, not Kabylake-X. It has quad channel DDR4 and 28 PCIe lanes

 

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i7 7820x is not worth getting anymore because the coffee 8700k got close to it with performance but likely to cost noticeably less.

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1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Huh? The 7820X is a Skylake-X CPU, not Kabylake-X. It has quad channel DDR4 and 28 PCIe lanes

 

OP, go for the i9

Yes, 28 pcie lanes instead of 44.

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I don't think x299 is worth for any less than the i9

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27 minutes ago, XYOUNEED said:

Hiya, I'm about to update my main system.

I really want to get the ROG Rampage VI Extreme x299 it has the 2066socket

So my question is in what should I invest? The I7 7820x or the I9 7900x?

My first thought was going fro the 7820x but then I feel like I am missing out. 

I need the cores for rendering 3D art, textures, etc. so then the i9 7900X would be better choice?

 

What do you think? Please let me know :3 

 

At least wait a few more days for the 7920X reviews to hit the streets. Reviews along with the CPU will be available before the end of the month.

 

The larger Skylake-X chips will have a larger die and transfer heat to the IHS much better.  There's a good chance that a 12core 7920X will run as cool or cooler than a 10 core 7900X.

 

Other than that, if you know you want Skylake-X / x299, do your thing man.  Soon your thread will be filled with the typical LTT "don't do it" posts and you'll spend more time weeding through that shit than getting actual answers to your question.  It's just how this particular community is.  

 

17 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Huh? The 7820X is a Skylake-X CPU, not Kabylake-X. It has quad channel DDR4 and 28 PCIe lanes

 

OP, go for the i9

 

We have a tendency to exaggerate greatly around here.

 

Somebody better tell all those Ryzen and z270 users that only half their boards are working since they don't have 44 lanes either.  xD

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12 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Yes, 28 pcie lanes instead of 44.

28 PCIe lanes doesn't mean that half your motherboard is not working -_-

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1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

28 PCIe lanes doesn't mean that half your motherboard is not working -_-

It's a manner of saying... even if it's not an exact 50/50 split you're still missing out on a lot of functionality you paid for (handsomely I might add) when you bought the motherboard.

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28 minutes ago, shadowbyte said:

what programs are you using for rendering?

3Ds max, KeyShot, Unreal Engine, Quixel & PhotoShop and some other random programs for making things easier.

14 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

At least wait a few more days for the 7920X reviews to hit the streets. Reviews along with the CPU will be available before the end of the month.

 

The larger Skylake-X chips will have a larger die and transfer heat to the IHS much better.  There's a good chance that a 12core 7920X will run as cool or cooler than a 10 core 7900X.

 

Other than that, if you know you want Skylake-X / x299, do your thing man.  Soon your thread will be filled with the typical LTT "don't do it" posts and you'll spend more time weeding through that shit than getting actual answers to your question.  It's just how this particular community is.  

 

 

We have a tendency to exaggerate greatly around here.

 

Somebody better tell all those Ryzen and z270 users that only half their boards are working since they don't have 44 lanes either.  xD

Yeah I could wait, I have to wait for my mobo to be available in the stores and the other parts.

I'm not worried about the heat of the cpu, I have enough cooling to cool down 3 more systems :P 

Otherwise I would go for the I9 7900

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Just now, XYOUNEED said:

3Ds max, KeyShot, Unreal Engine, Quixel & PhotoShop and some other random programs for making things easier.

 

Some of that stuff loves high single-threaded with others taking advantage of multi-threading.  Skylake-X would fill both needs nicely.  :D

 

Just now, XYOUNEED said:

Yeah I could wait, I have to wait for my mobo to be available in the stores and the other parts.

I'm not worried about the heat of the cpu, I have enough cooling to cool down 3 more systems :P 

Otherwise I would go for the I9 7900

 

The Asus ROG Rampage VI Apex just released so that means the Extreme is right behind it.  With the cooling that your talking about, I'm looking forward to seeing your results.  

 

Good luck man!

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42 minutes ago, Sauron said:

x299 is a mess, I would recommend a ryzen instead - they are cheaper and faster if you need more cores. If you really want to go intel for some reason, the 7820x will leave you with half your motherboard not working so I'd just go for the i9.

 

Before you buy anything, are you 100% sure your work requires a high core count?

You literally have no idea what you are talking about.

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3 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

You literally have no idea what you are talking about.

Please elaborate, enlighten me since you're clearly so much more informed. Perhaps you have something useful to add instead of making claims without backing them up with anything.

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Just now, Sauron said:

Please elaborate, enlighten me since you're clearly so much more informed.

Well, you said "I would recommend a ryzen instead - they are cheaper and faster if you need more cores." ...Ryzen would be cheaper, but it will definitely not be faster.

 

Then you said "the 7820x will leave you with half your motherboard not working"...How is that even remotely true?  Even if you were only refering to the PCI-e lanes, the only real difference the PCI lanes will make is the ability to run SLI at 16x/16x.  There is nothing on my motherboard "not working".

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5 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

Well, you said "I would recommend a ryzen instead - they are cheaper and faster if you need more cores." ...Ryzen would be cheaper, but it will definitely not be faster.

 

Then you said "the 7820x will leave you with half your motherboard not working"...How is that even remotely true?  Even if you were only refering to the PCI-e lanes, the only real difference the PCI lanes will make is the ability to run SLI at 16x/16x.  There is nothing on my motherboard "not working".

... ryzen threadripper lineup including the threadripper 1900x the ryzen

 

Read the first line. The first word. What does it say? Perhaps I should have specified I meant threadripper, but I would double check before telling someone he doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

As for the motherboard thing,

33 minutes ago, Sauron said:

It's a manner of saying... even if it's not an exact 50/50 split you're still missing out on a lot of functionality you paid for (handsomely I might add) when you bought the motherboard.

And sorry, I classify gimped/disabled pcie slots as "not working".

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Just now, Sauron said:

... ryzen threadripper lineup including the threadripper 1900x the ryzen

 

Read the first line. The first word. What does it say? Perhaps I should have specified I meant threadripper, but I would double check before telling someone he doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

As for the motherboard thing,

 

If you were talking about Threadripper, then the only one cheaper than the 7820x is the 1900x, and it is slower.  As for the motherboard thing, saying half the motherboard will not work because there are fewer PCI lanes is just stupid or ignorant. 

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1 minute ago, Sauron said:

Read the first line. The first word. What does it say? Perhaps I should have specified I meant threadripper, but I would double check before telling someone he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Threadripper is not faster if you also need single core performance and as @done12many2 already said, some of the programs that @XYOUNEED uses are single threaded and some are multi threaded. The i9 strikes a good balance between single and multi core performance, so it's the best option IMO.

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2 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

If you were talking about Threadripper, then the only one cheaper than the 7820x is the 1900x, and it is slower.  As for the motherboard thing, saying half the motherboard will not work because there are fewer PCI lanes is just stupid or ignorant. 

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

Threadripper is not faster if you also need single core performance and as @done12many2 already said, some of the programs that @XYOUNEED uses are single threaded and some are multi threaded. The i9 strikes a good balance between single and multi core performance, so it's the best option IMO.

 

 

Save your breath gents.

 

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1 minute ago, TahoeDust said:

If you were talking about Threadripper, then the only one cheaper than the 7820x is the 1900x, and it is slower.  As for the motherboard thing, saying half the motherboard will not work because there are fewer PCI lanes is just stupid or ignorant. 

I was considering the cpu I recommended out of the two, that being the 7900x, which is in fact slower than the RT 1920x in heavily multithreaded tasks.

Rendering: CineBench 15 MultiThreaded

 

The 1900x is not even out yet so I figured that much was obvious.

 

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10 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Threadripper is not faster if you also need single core performance and as @done12many2 already said, some of the programs that @XYOUNEED uses are single threaded and some are multi threaded. The i9 strikes a good balance between single and multi core performance, so it's the best option IMO.

I did not know this at the time of my original post, which is why I asked if he was 100% sure more cores were what he needed.

 

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Do the Ryzen Threadripper 1950X. It has a better price per performance ratio. And it is much, much faster. I know you won't get the motherboard you wanted in the first place, But there is lots of X399 Motherboards to look at. Good luck at your next computer!

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2 minutes ago, Sauron said:

I was considering the cpu I recommended out of the two, that being the 7900x, which is in fact slower than the RT 1920x in heavily multithreaded tasks.

At stock? Yes. If you overclock the 7900X you can hit 2700-2800cb, which is on par with a 4GHz 1920X

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Do the Ryzen Threadripper 1950X. It has a better price per performance ratio. And it is much, much faster. I know you won't get the motherboard you wanted in the first place, But there is lots of X399 Motherboards to look at.

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