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I have two simple question, Why did microsoft make a 64-Bit version of windows?

And why does the setup disk for windows xp x64 do not have SATA drivers?

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2 minutes ago, IBM_THINKPAD_R51 said:

Why did microsoft make a 64-Bit version of windows?

Uh.... to use more than 4gbs of memory?

2 minutes ago, IBM_THINKPAD_R51 said:

why does the setup disk for windows xp x64 do not have SATA drivers?

You could use shady driver update stuff like iobit's to get every thing needed to be functional however  why are you installing WinXP? you can't use this thing on the internet any ways, aside from machines that uses programs compatible only with it or other cases there's practical use for it

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8 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Uh.... to use more than 4gbs of memory?

You could use shady driver update stuff like iobit's to get every thing needed to be functional however  why are you installing WinXP? you can't use this thing on the internet any ways, aside from machines that uses programs compatible only with it or other cases there's practical use for it

As someone who still has a XP machine in the house and it's connected to the internet, I do have to ask what are you talking about?

Also fun fact, this message was sent from Win XP.

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Just now, NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle said:

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Basically whenever a hacker finds out a new back door into the windows security he'll be able to steal password including bank ones with much more ease with nothing "anti-virus" and such can do about because Microsoft no longer actively fixes these vulnerabilities found over time.

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2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Basically whenever a hacker finds out a new back door into the windows security he'll be able to steal password including bank ones with much more ease with nothing "anti-virus" and such can do about because Microsoft no longer actively fixes these vulnerabilities found over time.

You can still get updates to Windows XP.

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/software/8089/how-to-get-new-windows-xp-updates-for-free-until-2019-with-a-registry-hack

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2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Basically whenever a hacker finds out a new back door into the windows security he'll be able to steal password including bank ones with much more ease with nothing "anti-virus" and such can do about because Microsoft no longer actively fixes these vulnerabilities found over time.

I see your point, but not everyone stores personal info on their computer. Also, that does not answer my question as I did not state that I use windows XP x64 as my main OS.

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2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Basically whenever a hacker finds out a new back door into the windows security he'll be able to steal password including bank ones with much more ease with nothing "anti-virus" and such can do about because Microsoft no longer actively fixes these vulnerabilities found over time.

What are you 5 years old? For God's sake stop believing every bs you hear online.

Unless someone is specifically targeting you, nothing that you said is going to happen.

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32 minutes ago, IBM_THINKPAD_R51 said:

I have two simple question, Why did microsoft make a 64-Bit version of windows?

And why does the setup disk for windows xp x64 do not have SATA drivers?

64-bit CPUs appeared on the consumer market with the AMD Athlon 64 during XP days. It was Microsoft first attempt (with Server 2003) to bring the technology WOW64. or Windows on Windows 64, which got improved in Vista. It was there for people who would need to run 64-bit applications. It wasn't widely available, it had to ordered, because it virtually had little to no drivers made for it, and those who did make WinXP 64 drivers foor their hardware did more of a half ass job than anything.

 

For the lack of SATA drivers, see above, and also Windows XP doesn't know what SATA is. It doesn't know what PCI-E is, and same for many other technologies in your system today. Windows XP was released in 2001, and it is really Windows 2000 released in late 1999. XP was a response to MacOS X, so within 1 year, they took Windows 2000, added compatibility mode (which was crap, probably due that it was done in a rush), nice help document, some concept to make search helpful (XP dog), added a skin, and faster startup speed, and a few things here and there. That is pretty much it. Both version of Windows had the same updates until SP2 of XP.

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5 minutes ago, NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle said:

What are you 5 years old? For God's sake stop believing every bs you hear online.

Unless someone is specifically targeting you, nothing that you said is going to happen.

I beg your pardon? It is a true vulnerability, so just because it isn't dangerous enough to you, you will try to deride me?

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3 minutes ago, NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle said:

What are you 5 years old? For God's sake stop believing every bs you hear online.

Unless someone is specifically targeting you, nothing that you said is going to happen.

Well..... yes and no.... Windows XP is so old that its security flaws are well documented. In fact, when Windows XP was released (about) Microsoft said that they need to restart from scratch as Windows XP is not secure for the "world of tomorrow" in online connectivity. That is why project Longhorn or as we know it Vista, took 6 years, and still needed a few more years in the works. Windows XP security issues are well documented, and too many to fix. You have automated attacks.

 

In fact, if you run Windows XP, you'll notice that a great majority of applications, just to discourage you of using this, now, shitty OS, blocks you installing/running under XP. Firefox, Chrome, and a bunch of others don't. Many sites will even block you, just for you to upgrade. XP is that bad. If you want to use an old OS, at least, as we speak, don't go bellow Vista.

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@GoodBytes @Princess Cadence 

As for the conversation your having, it all comes down to the user, Chrome is still able to run (although not the latest version) and Firefox is able to run. You can still run Very good antivirus software on XP. If you are careful online, you will be generally safe, even on XP. I bet Most people could downgrade to XP and use it if they had to. And BTW Windows Malicious Software removal tool is being update every month even to this day since Microsoft did not shut down the update servers for XP. There will be no more security patches, but for applications that are still common accross XP and newer, they still will be updated TO THIS DAY.    

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2 minutes ago, IBM_THINKPAD_R51 said:

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I am sorry but after being disrespected I rather abandon thread, have a goodbye cute pony overclocking though:

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Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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19 minutes ago, IBM_THINKPAD_R51 said:

@GoodBytes @Princess Cadence 

As for the conversation your having, it all comes down to the user, Chrome is still able to run (although not the latest version) and Firefox is able to run. You can still run Very good antivirus software on XP. If you are careful online, you will be generally safe, even on XP. I bet Most people could downgrade to XP and use it if they had to. And BTW Windows Malicious Software removal tool is being update every month even to this day since Microsoft did not shut down the update servers for XP. There will be no more security patches, but for applications that are still common accross XP and newer, they still will be updated TO THIS DAY.    

I was speaking in general. Remember that they are other readers. You can put exceptions on anything. One might visit Microsoft website only, and doesn't have an email, or backed by a enterprise firewall. At a general level, it is unsafe, and you have an opening in your home network. Latest web browsers don't run, many anti viruses don't run either. Windows malicious software removal tool isn't an anti-virus or anti-malware. It only detects select wide spread malware mostly to try and kill Zombies computers. Computers that are infected, the user doesn't know, and does nothing until a switch is turned on remotely and when is part of executing attacks. Now you know how DDoS are done. It is compromised system which, remotely set to aimed at a site or server to take down via DDoS. You have hundred or even thousands (depends on how much you'll pay) of computers run in the attack. Sometimes a compromised computer is used as proxy to attack a site or government or company... and then you get the police on your door as you are fully exposed, not the attacker. And you have 0 idea of anything.

 

It is critical to have all your software fully updated, including your OS.. whether it is Windows, MacOS/OSX or Linux based OS. , an be behind a good, well configured, fully updated router (yes, routers do get hacked Again, all automated attacks with no target in mind)

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1 hour ago, IBM_THINKPAD_R51 said:

I have two simple question, Why did microsoft make a 64-Bit version of windows?

And why does the setup disk for windows xp x64 do not have SATA drivers?

I used to use x64 XP. I wanted more than 4 gigs of ram. It was a shit OS however. Slow clunky and like stated above it wasnt XP. It was Win Server 2003 x64 with the XP shell on top. As far as the drivers, I can only guess that most servers use SAS or SCSI for the disk interface or even fiber channel. I dont think Sata is common in servers, I could be wrong though. It could be they just got lazy. They never really intended for people to buy this I dont think. The only reason I had a copy is it come with the 32bit XP I got from the MS alliance offer from Henry Ford Community College. Both version for $28. A fucking steal if you ask me. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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