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1 minute ago, KuJoe said:

Good, if that's the case then hopefully it works out in his favor.

Whilst I don't know much about the details, I would be betting if they had a solid case they wouldn't have jeopardized it by publicly releasing such information (which the defendants lawyer can claim has compromised the integrity of the case) and starting what would amount to slander/defamation should they lose.

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8 hours ago, KuJoe said:

I know that, I'm just pointing it out that an e-mail address is enough to link a persons identity even without the IP address. :)

A few years ago a US Federal Judge in DC threw out a case saying an IP address does not ID people. So yeah. Email is not enough as it could have been hacked. 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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11 hours ago, mr moose said:

Whilst I don't know much about the details, I would be betting if they had a solid case they wouldn't have jeopardized it by publicly releasing such information (which the defendants lawyer can claim has compromised the integrity of the case) and starting what would amount to slander/defamation should they lose.

Indeed, the defendant can claim that by releasing all of that info to the public before a trial has even happened, he's been convicted by the court of public opinion, which has ruined and tarnished him even before he's been judged innocent or guilty.

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6 hours ago, Donut417 said:

A few years ago a US Federal Judge in DC threw out a case saying an IP address does not ID people. So yeah. Email is not enough as it could have been hacked. 

I've seen somebody get convicted and is current serving prison time by being linked to an email address.

-KuJoe

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56 minutes ago, KuJoe said:

I've seen somebody get convicted and is current serving prison time by being linked to an email address.

Differs judge by judge. Remember even the Federal Court system is fragmented around the country. The Judge in DC might not here cases in Florida or Texas and such. I think each state has its own federal judges, as I think the Federal Court in my state is in Ann Arbor and an hour north of Detroit. 

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4 hours ago, KuJoe said:

I've seen somebody get convicted and is current serving prison time by being linked to an email address.

Context matters.

 

What does the email address actually prove? That he has an account with one or more of those websites? Yes.

 

Does it prove he uploaded copyrighted material? No. How could they tell that? All they can tell is that a user with that email address accessed content that many other users also accessed.

 

They can, of course, try to corroborate and cross reference his email with an IP Address, but there is precedence in the US for an IP Address not being an identifying marker - at least, by itself.

 

If they can show a clear and definitive link between all three items:

1. Email Address

2. IP Address

3. IP recorded uploading copyrighted content while said IP was under the "use" of the defendant

 

Then they might have a case where the email itself can be used.

 

But I don't think enough information has been released yet to say whether or not the email address in this context is enough to convict someone.

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10 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

Context matters.

 

What does the email address actually prove? That he has an account with one or more of those websites? Yes.

 

Does it prove he uploaded copyrighted material? No. How could they tell that? All they can tell is that a user with that email address accessed content that many other users also accessed.

 

They can, of course, try to corroborate and cross reference his email with an IP Address, but there is precedence in the US for an IP Address not being an identifying marker - at least, by itself.

 

If they can show a clear and definitive link between all three items:

1. Email Address

2. IP Address

3. IP recorded uploading copyrighted content while said IP was under the "use" of the defendant

 

Then they might have a case where the email itself can be used.

 

But I don't think enough information has been released yet to say whether or not the email address in this context is enough to convict someone.

Agreed. I never contested that this wasn't the case, I was simply pointing out that it can be used as a valid way to identify somebody.

-KuJoe

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