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My birthday is coming up (pc help)

Westy55

My birthday is coming up and I'm looking for a pre-built, yes i know, I'm sorry but i don't want to go to the trouble with building it. 

My budget is 400-600 US dollars. 

I am looking to play Minecraft, Csgo, Overwatch, and some other shooters.

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3 minutes ago, Westy55 said:

My birthday is coming up and I'm looking for a pre-built, yes i know, I'm sorry but i don't want to go to the trouble with building it. 

My budget is 400-600 US dollars. 

I am looking to play Minecraft, Csgo, Overwatch, and some other shooters.

if you want to compare cpus and gpus futuremark will probably help you https://www.futuremark.com/hardware/?_ga=1.149447606.1023387749.1448556722 

 

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What are the "other shooters" you are talking about? games like CSGO run easily on old hardware, but Crysis kills them for fun.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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i'd like to try pubg but just assume minecraft overwatch and csgo

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10 minutes ago, Westy55 said:

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Watch this video and you'll pretty much know all there is to know:

You have no idea how shitty prebuilds are, for your 600$ you can actually build a decent enough computer that will handle those games but if you spend 600$ on a prebuild you'll not be capable of playing much if anything at all.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

What are the "other shooters" you are talking about? games like CSGO run easily on old hardware, but Crysis kills them for fun.

i'd like to try pubg but just assume minecraft overwatch and csgo

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Its easy building it, its almost as easy as lego, and it will save you some money

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My Build: Xeon 2630L V, RX 560 2gb, 8gb ddr4 1866, EVGA 450BV 

My Laptop #1: i3-5020U, 8gb of DDR3, Intel HD 5500

 

 

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1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Watch this video and you'll pretty much know all there is to know:

You have no idea how shitty prebuilds are, for your 600$ you can actually build a decent enough computer that will handle those games but if you spend 600$ on a prebuild you'll not be capable of playing much if anything at all.

can your recommend some parts for me then?

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Just now, Westy55 said:

can your recommend some parts for me then?

Wait tomorrow as Coffee Lake will release then we can go through putting something together for you, just make a brand new thread about it then.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Wait tomorrow as Coffee Lake will release then we can go through putting something together for you, just make a brand new thread about it then.

Wait. Coffee lake launches the day college starts back up? REALLY! I wanted to live on the forum for the launch....

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57 minutes ago, Westy55 said:

i'd like to try pubg but just assume minecraft overwatch and csgo

I'd wait for coffee lake to recommend CPU and mobo, but PUBG do have some requirements (Credit: Geekerwan)

 

1. Decent RAM. With 1600MHz 8GB DDR3 the game takes a great hit in FPS when waiting for the match to start and plane flying over the map, but RAM usage is far from reaching 8GB, so DDR4 machines are mandatory unless you want stutters in a tight fighting situation.

 

2. VRAM: For 1080p medium settings, 2GB minimum, 4GB ideal (I'll use 1080p medium as standard for comparison)

 

3. This game prefer graphics card with large dies, so performance gains on 1060 6gb (91 avg, 61 min) compared to 1050ti (49 avg, 25 min) is much larger than what benchmarks suggest. Also, 1050 (45 avg, 33 min) is only slightly behind the higher clocked 1050ti, and it even scored better minimum FPS somehow. It's clear that these new budget cards are not up to the task. Cards like the 960, 770 should be much better.

 

4. 780ti Kingpin, 980 reference and 1060 6gb scored identical FPS, so don't doubt on using old but capable graphics cards.

 

5. This game doesn't work well with AMD. RX 480 8G (at 72 avg, 50 min) is 20% slower than a 1060 6gb, which also beats the Fury X (82 avg, 57 min)

 

6. Not important to you, but SLI scaling on this game is insane. GTX 590 in SLI gained 97.3% of FPS compared to SLI disabled. Geekerwan haven't tried AMD's crossfire, but it might not work so well as it this game favours Nvidia cards.

 

7. This game runs the same on Ryzen and Intel quad cores. Only the G4560 got a noticeable but small drop in minimum fps. This game doesn't have much requirement on CPU power.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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You could build a system with a Pentium G4560 and a GTX 1050 Ti for around $500 (not counting monitor but counting buying Windows 10 off Kinguin, add another $100 for a 23 inch 1080p monitor), and I promise you it's very easy. Go watch Carey Holzman's youtube channel where he shows in extreme detail how to build a gaming PC. Minecraft can be run on anything, I mean I used to play it on integrated graphics on an Athlon 64x2 chip that was low end when I bought it in 2006. But for Overwatch and PUBG I'd go with at least a GTX 1050, and I'd really try to fit in the extra $30 or so in my budget for a GTX 1050 Ti instead. But when it comes to prebuilts you're probably not going to do very well for $600 and under. The cheapest decent prebuilt I saw on newegg was $675 for an AMD R3 1400 + GTX 1050 Ti (which would be a better system than G4560 + 1050 Ti, but it has no monitor).

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