Bottleneck? gtx 1050 vs i5-7600k

[HazzyReborn]

Not entirely sure this is right area, but hey if it's wrong it can be moved. 

Basically, currently have gtx 1050 and i3-6100 build with pretty crappy ram. It's an upgraded Dell Inspiron 3650 basically. But I'm getting new parts in the mail, enough to essentially only keep the hard drive and graphics card for new build. 

At the moment from gameplay and benchmarks, when the ram isn't raining on my parade in games like Player Unknown's, it seems like the cpu is the bottleneck. Yet I'm upgrading to i5-7600k and corsair vengeance lpx 2400 ddr4 8gb ram, and I'm quite sure the bottleneck at that point will usually be the gtx 1050. I'm just wondering by how much I can expect it to be a bottleneck, or if I'm oddly completely wrong.

[LienusLateTips]

I wouldn't upgrade to the 7600K.

[HazzyReborn]

Just now, JDE said:

I wouldn't upgrade to the 7600K.

I already have a 1151 socket board sitting around unused, and got a good deal on 7600k for 150$ brand new, a friend bought it then changed their mind before even opening once.

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, HazzyReborn said:

I already have a 1151 socket board sitting around unused, and got a good deal on 7600k for 150$ brand new, a friend bought it then changed their mind before even opening once.

Still wouldn't buy it but the GTX 1050 bottlenecks it kinda

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, HazzyReborn said:

I already have a 1151 socket board sitting around unused, and got a good deal on 7600k for 150$ brand new, a friend bought it then changed their mind before even opening once.

smart friend, try to get save up for an  i7 7700. 

[HazzyReborn]

Just now, JDE said:

Still wouldn't buy it but the GTX 1050 bottlenecks it kinda

Wouldn't buy it because it's excessive, or something wrong with it?

[HazzyReborn]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

smart friend, try to get save up for an  i7 7700. 

I don't need a 7700, hardly even need the 7600k tbh, I only do games, and at 1080p. The reason I didn't get something softer than 7600k was the deal on it and not having to buy a new board like am4 for ryzen.

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, HazzyReborn said:

Wouldn't buy it because it's excessive, or something wrong with it?

it's only quad core

[The Sloth]

Just now, HazzyReborn said:

I don't need a 7700, hardly even need the 7600k tbh, I only do games, and at 1080p. The reason I didn't get something softer than 7600k was the deal on it and not having to buy a new board like am4 for ryzen.

get the 7600k, try to get it for cheaper, overall i5s are not really worth it even for 1080p. 

[Mira Yurizaki]

The bottleneck will the graphics card at that point, more or less. Which is good, because that's where you want it.

 

Although make sure the motherboard is compatible with Kaby Lake after a BIOS update.

[HazzyReborn]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

get the 7600k, try to get it for cheaper, overall i5s are not really worth it even for 1080p. 

Alright I'll see if he'll bump the price down and take what's left of the 3650 even though he really won't have much use for anything, maybe the ram, but everything about the pc is proprietary pretty much, even the mobo.

[HazzyReborn]

1 minute ago, M.Yurizaki said:

The bottleneck will the graphics card at that point, more or less. Which is good, because that's where you want it.

 

Although make sure the motherboard is compatible with Kaby Lake after a BIOS update.

According to pc parts picker and a couple google results, it's compatible without bios update.

[The Sloth]

2 minutes ago, HazzyReborn said:

According to pc parts picker and a couple google results, it's compatible without bios update.

you need a bios update, if you have a skylake mobo and get a kabylake CPU. 

[HazzyReborn]

3 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

you need a bios update, if you have a skylake mobo and get a kabylake CPU. 

Not entirely sure how to tell if it is skylake and googling mobo's tends to be painstaking cause of several different models with similar names. But like I said I checked on pc parts picker and unlike it usually does, where it gives a compatibility warning talking about bios updates, it didn't at all, and just searching "is it compatible" basically on google leads me to believe it is.
Exact board in question is: MSI Pro Series Intel B250 LGA 1151 DDR4 HDMI USB 3.1 ATX Motherboard (B250 PC MATE)

[ARikozuM]

What motherboard are you using?

[HazzyReborn]

Just now, ARikozuM said:

What motherboard are you using?

Just now, HazzyReborn said:

Not entirely sure how to tell if it is skylake and googling mobo's tends to be painstaking cause of several different models with similar names. But like I said I checked on pc parts picker and unlike it usually does, where it gives a compatibility warning talking about bios updates, it didn't at all, and just searching "is it compatible" basically on google leads me to believe it is.
Exact board in question is: MSI Pro Series Intel B250 LGA 1151 DDR4 HDMI USB 3.1 ATX Motherboard (B250 PC MATE)

 

 

[ARikozuM]

Just now, HazzyReborn said:

Exact board in question is: MSI Pro Series Intel B250 LGA 1151 DDR4 HDMI USB 3.1 ATX Motherboard (B250 PC MATE)

Get a 7600 or 7700 or, what I would do, wait for CFL tomorrow and the following week to see how it compares. You can possibly sell the motherboard for a good bit of cash and make an upgrade to an i5-8600K or i7-8700K. 

[HazzyReborn]

6 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Get a 7600 or 7700

Both of those would cost more, the 7600 being locked makes it pointless to spend more on, and the 7700 would cost over 130$ more, and with a stable OC on the 7600k, would there really be a justifiable difference?

[The Sloth]

 

8 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Get a 7600 or 7700 or, what I would do, wait for CFL tomorrow and the following week to see how it compares. You can possibly sell the motherboard for a good bit of cash and make an upgrade to an i5-8600K or i7-8700K. 

for OP the 7600k would be better, since it's only 150$. 

24 minutes ago, HazzyReborn said:

good deal on 7600k for 150$ brand new,

[HazzyReborn]

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

for OP the 7700k would be better, since it's only 150$.

slight typo, but yeah that's what I was thinking.

[HazzyReborn]

Also a little irrelevant, but part of my attachment to the board I already have from my brother is the IO. Includes 6~ usb ports, 4x3.0 2xusb2, and also a usb type c port. I'm always running short on usb ports and all the hubs I've seen are either tacky, or too expensive, or require a power brick for themselves.

[ARikozuM]

11 minutes ago, HazzyReborn said:

slight typo, but yeah that's what I was thinking.

If that's the case, go for the 7600K. It'll be much better than the i3. 

[-rascal-]

@HazzyReborn

 

The motherboard you SPECIFICALLY have is the MSI B250 PC Mate.

For future reference, that is the information you need -- MSI only have one B250 PC Mate motherboard.

(The others ones are named...B250 Gaming M3 , B250 GAMING PRO CARBON, etc.)

 

200 series based motherboards should support 7th generation 'Kabylake' Processors straight from the factory, so no need to worry there.

the 100 series motherboards (e.g. B150 PC Mate) will need a newer BIOS updated before they can support the 7th generation CPUs.

 

If you can get the i5-7600K for cheap, then say no more.

PUBG recently got an update to support CPUs with more cores and threads, so a i7 would perform better with the extra threads.

If the price difference between the i5 and i7 is quite high, then stick with the i5.

[HazzyReborn]

1 minute ago, -rascal- said:

PUBG recently got an update to support CPUs with more cores and threads, so a i7 would perform better with the extra threads.

Will faster ram help with pubg when the starting ram was really old ddr3 1600 and the new would be ddr4 2400, or is quantity more important. I've heard from multiple people that pubg isn't really friendly to ram, so my thought is that unlike most titles where faster clocks might get you 2% increase, I'm hoping I'll see improvement at least in stability.

[ARikozuM]

3 minutes ago, HazzyReborn said:

Will faster ram help with pubg when the starting ram was really old ddr3 1600 and the new would be ddr4 2400, or is quantity more important. I've heard from multiple people that pubg isn't really friendly to ram, so my thought is that unlike most titles where faster clocks might get you 2% increase, I'm hoping I'll see improvement at least in stability.

Faster RAM usually provides good gains to the minimums bringing them closer to the averages which will go up a bit depending on the title.