GTX 1080 Ti Zotac/evga/Gigabyte

[（嗜杀本性）狼队 女 梅]

Hi,
I'm looking for the maximum performance, And I don't know that much about GPUs but I've been looking into getting the "Best"
And I came by the: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Zotac AMP! Extreme
http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/index.php?gid=3859&graphics=GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Zotac AMP! Extreme
Which seems the best GPU on the market, 
With its clock speeds being: Core Speed 1645  /  MHz Boost Clock 1759 MHz
But it's rather bulky and large so I kept looking for something from the same clock speeds and came by the: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gigabyte AORUS Xtreme Edition 11GB
With its clock speeds being: Core Speed 1607 MHz  /  MHz Boost Clock 1721 MHz

It seems less bulky. And before buying, I checked with a friend and he told me the: evga geforce gtx 1080 ti kingpin
 But this card has a clock speed of: Core Speed 1582 MHz   /  MHz Boost Clock 1695 MHz
so I am at a loss what to get?.. Any tips,

[Bananasplit_00]

dont get the kingpin unless you are an extreme overclocker, take a look at the other EVGA cards. personaly id go with the Zotac card

[themctipers]

i personally would go for the cheapest 1080ti that has 3 fans. you can't really overclock a lot on pascal because voltage limits are 1.04 on my 1070, and the bios is encrypted. you can manually overclock to beat the factory overclock.

[（嗜杀本性）狼队 女 梅]

4 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

dont get the kingpin unless you are an extreme overclocker, take a look at the other EVGA cards. personaly id go with the Zotac card

I kinda already thought something like that thanks!

3 minutes ago, themctipers said:

i personally would go for the cheapest 1080ti that has 3 fans. you can't really overclock a lot on pascal because voltage limits are 1.04 on my 1070, and the bios is encrypted. you can manually overclock to beat the factory overclock.

From what I got, The EVGA card comes with 3 bios options, And the Zotac one has double power boost installed in it, But from what I read it has an over heating issues on the power modules("Chips") on the card and not on the processor self. 

[Jurrunio]

I remembered a review of the zotac card you mentioned from Gamer Nexus (not sure if it's 1080 or 1080ti), but what they found out is the lack of VRAM cooling on that card.

 

Kingpin cards are very expensive.

 

Aorus card was called "fragile" by Jayztwocents in his review on an Aorus 1080 / 1080ti (I forgot, again) and he snapped a piece off the metal shroud single handed.

 

I recommend MSI's Gaming X card because it's already good enough, even with heavy overclocking. If you want even better, do consider the Asus ROG Strix card and the EVGA FTW3. The best performing card should be MSI's Lightning Z card. However, the card that looks the most badass is the Galax HOF 1080ti.

[themctipers]

Just now, （嗜杀本性）狼队 女 梅 said:

I kinda already thought something like that thanks!

From what I got, The EVGA card comes with 3 bios options, And the Zotac one has double power boost installed in it, But from what I read it has an over heating issues on the power modules("Chips") on the card and not on the processor self. 

The bios options are probably bullshit, you cannot flash the BIOS on any pascal GPU currently as Nvidia has locked it and encrypted it. Probably is default, overclocked, and a overclocking BIOS (with all 3, you should be able to hit the same amount of overclock)

Don't touch the Zotac one if it has heating issues on the VRMs (power module chips) 

[（嗜杀本性）狼队 女 梅]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

 

 

I care about the best performing card, So I'll be going with the MSI's Lightning Z!
This was a fast help, I really appreciate it I took me like almost a half day to find information on it and so on, And I got an instant reply here I love it. tumbs up. 

2 minutes ago, themctipers said:

 

 

 

[Damascus]

8 minutes ago, （嗜杀本性）狼队 女 梅 said:

I care about the best performing card, So I'll be going with the MSI's Lightning Z!

If you want the best performance get a hybrid gpu or a full loop, there is rarely an air cooler that can match the speeds you can get on water

[xsimplyjosh]

32 minutes ago, （嗜杀本性）狼队 女 梅 said:

Hi,
I'm looking for the maximum performance, And I don't know that much about GPUs but I've been looking into getting the "Best"
And I came by the: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Zotac AMP! Extreme
http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/index.php?gid=3859&graphics=GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Zotac AMP! Extreme
Which seems the best GPU on the market, 
With its clock speeds being: Core Speed 1645  /  MHz Boost Clock 1759 MHz
But it's rather bulky and large so I kept looking for something from the same clock speeds and came by the: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gigabyte AORUS Xtreme Edition 11GB
With its clock speeds being: Core Speed 1607 MHz  /  MHz Boost Clock 1721 MHz

It seems less bulky. And before buying, I checked with a friend and he told me the: evga geforce gtx 1080 ti kingpin
 But this card has a clock speed of: Core Speed 1582 MHz   /  MHz Boost Clock 1695 MHz
so I am at a loss what to get?.. Any tips,

evga ftw3 is good already, due to limitation of pascal your overclocking may vary. i wouldnt get kingpin too expensive lol for what it is. 999usd for air cool copper heatsink... rather put that extra 200+ usd into something else useful

or

asus strix oc/non oc 1080ti too. [i have this one].

 

not a fan of zotac, Gamers Nexus showcased it had some issues with its cooling at various points in its teardown and analysis and plus its fat 3 slot... strix 1080ti is manageable [at least for me] with 2.5 slot, EVGA FTW3 is the thinnest at 2 slot if that matters.

 

but even so with the limitation of pascal, i find using OC mode on my OC variant seems to do the trick for me, getting 1440p res at 120-144hz consistently so quite happy!

[gpu boost 3.0 sets it to around 1936mhz actual clock rate on the gpu so that should suffice for me].

[chris cooper]

I have the Gigabyte one, it is really bulky taking up 2.5 slots.  However, boost sits at around 1987mhz - 2005mhz without an overclock an sits around 76 degrees.  Good card IMO

 

[（嗜杀本性）狼队 女 梅]

3 minutes ago, chris cooper said:

I have the Gigabyte one, it is really bulky taking up 2.5 slots.  However, boost sits at around 1987mhz - 2005mhz without an overclock an sits around 76 degrees.  Good card IMO

 

76 is kinda high, But 2000 mhz sounds insane, And the card it self is 1607 MHz  one soo.. I have to kinda choose between MSI's Lightning Z, Or the gigabyte, I'll look for more reviews. 

8 minutes ago, xsimplyjosh said:

 

 

Really? It's stated on their product line "1569 / 1683"
Isn't it like you won the silicon lottery? Having the chance of a better GPU because of the minerals and stuff if I am not mistaken..

13 minutes ago, Damascus said:

If you want the best performance get a hybrid gpu or a full loop, there is rarely an air cooler that can match the speeds you can get on water

Out of the top of your head can you suggest a couple,
I don't see them listed here:
https://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/geforce-gtx-1080-ti-custom-graphics-card-roundup
Or here:
http://www.game-debate.com/search/hardware?search=GTX 1080 TI&hardware-types=&release-date-from=2017-01-01&release-date-to=2017-12-31&vram-min=11000&gpu-sli=0&gpu-platform=desktop&sort-by=gd-rating&page=2

I would love a base clock of 1600 as the one Jurronio suggested "MSI's Lightning Z"

[racer243l]

Gigabyte owner here. Crazy OC capabilitys, stock core 1962-2025. Overclocked 2063Mhz core but I also got mine to 6067Mhz memory stable. It is a tad warm, hitting the low 80´s. But it stays quiet while doing those clocks

[xsimplyjosh]

3 minutes ago, （嗜杀本性）狼队 女 梅 said:

Really? It's stated on their product line "1569 / 1683"
Isn't it like you won the silicon lottery? Having the chance of a better GPU because of the minerals and stuff if I am not mistaken..

I would love a base clock of 1600 as the one Jurronio suggested "MSI's Lightning Z"

Those are factory overclocks, but gpu boost brings it higher than the usual amount as seen on your gpu tweaking program.. If i leave it on OC mode standard @ 1708MHz [according to asus], GPU boost 3.0 brings it abit up to 1936MHz+... its just that.

 

the silicon lottery is there but to be honest it depends on how much you expect on your card. I'm perfectly fine operating at a max stable clock of 2050MHz which i've experimented, despite the fact I've seen some go higher [2100MHz] but would i notice the extra 50MHz not really i guess.

 

msi lightning z is another option i guess, if you are averse to water cooling. but that one spans nearly 1500aud here and is 3 slot.

 

[（嗜杀本性）狼队 女 梅]

1 minute ago, racer243l said:

Gigabyte owner here. Crazy OC capabilitys, stock core 1962-2025. Overclocked 2063Mhz core but I also got mine to 6067Mhz memory stable. It is a tad warm, hitting the low 80´s. But it stays quiet while doing those clocks

Thanks! Then I might be going with the Gigabyte, Do you have any artifacts while playing demanding games? 

[racer243l]

Just now, （嗜杀本性）狼队 女 梅 said:

Thanks! Then I might be going with the Gigabyte, Do you have any artifacts while playing demanding games? 

Nope, 100% stable and no artifacts. I just realized, the memory is cooled by the same baseplate as the core, so that might be a reason for the higher then average temps

[Ithanul]

43 minutes ago, themctipers said:

The bios options are probably bullshit, you cannot flash the BIOS on any pascal GPU currently as Nvidia has locked it and encrypted it. Probably is default, overclocked, and a overclocking BIOS (with all 3, you should be able to hit the same amount of overclock)

Don't touch the Zotac one if it has heating issues on the VRMs (power module chips) 

Not fully true.  You can cross flash 1080Tis.  I would not advise that method though.  Very high chance to brick a card.

 

Though, I know quiet a few individuals that had success (same crazy peeps who where putting liquid metal on resistors to trick the BIOS).

[chris cooper]

19 minutes ago, racer243l said:

Nope, 100% stable and no artifacts. I just realized, the memory is cooled by the same baseplate as the core, so that might be a reason for the higher then average temps

 

26 minutes ago, （嗜杀本性）狼队 女 梅 said:

76 is kinda high, But 2000 mhz sounds insane, And the card it self is 1607 MHz  one soo.. I have to kinda choose between MSI's Lightning Z, Or the gigabyte, I'll look for more reviews. 

Really? It's stated on their product line "1569 / 1683"
Isn't it like you won the silicon lottery? Having the chance of a better GPU because of the minerals and stuff if I am not mistaken..

Out of the top of your head can you suggest a couple,
I don't see them listed here:
https://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/geforce-gtx-1080-ti-custom-graphics-card-roundup
Or here:
http://www.game-debate.com/search/hardware?search=GTX 1080 TI&hardware-types=&release-date-from=2017-01-01&release-date-to=2017-12-31&vram-min=11000&gpu-sli=0&gpu-platform=desktop&sort-by=gd-rating&page=2

I would love a base clock of 1600 as the one Jurronio suggested "MSI's Lightning Z"

 

26 minutes ago, racer243l said:

Nope, 100% stable and no artifacts. I just realized, the memory is cooled by the same baseplate as the core, so that might be a reason for the higher then average temps

Yeah me too, perfectly stable.  In fact I did a 6 hour 4k battlefield 1 session yesterday, sat at around 2000mhz constantly - with no visual artifacts.  Is 76 degrees really that hot for a GPU, boosting stably that high?   It's been a long while since I bought a high range card whilst current.  I am normally a generation behind or AMD

[racer243l]

Just now, chris cooper said:

 

 

Yeah me too, perfectly stable.  In fact I did a 6 hour 4k battlefield 1 session yesterday, sat at around 2000mhz constantly - with no visual artifacts.  Is 76 degrees really that hot for a GPU, boosting stably that high?   It's been a long while since I bought a high range card whilst current.  I am normally a generation behind or AMD

A bit high but up to 85°C is fine in my opinion. They start to throttle at at 90°C so we are safe

[chris cooper]

Just now, racer243l said:

A bit high but up to 85°C is fine in my opinion. They start to throttle at at 90°C so we are safe

Great stuff, thanks man.  

[（嗜杀本性）狼队 女 梅]

8 minutes ago, racer243l said:

A bit high but up to 85°C is fine in my opinion. They start to throttle at at 90°C so we are safe

90? I see I am used that they throttle at 80-85, Good to know. Thanks that was a little side info I love.

[EazyRyder]

I have the Zotac 1080ti Amp Extreme and from stock it boosts to 2038mhz and will drop to 2012mhz at 99-100% usage (in game).

The highest overclock I can get is 2100mhz in game.

 

I have had this card for months now without any VRM heat issues and the Zotac does have the longest 5 year warranty so I have no worries.

Gamers Nexus where really hard on the zotac with the hot vrm issues, even though they themselves said that the VRM can easily go to 125 degrees and in some cases above that. They never mentioned clock or memory speeds on the zotac and even advertised their sponsored EVGA 1080ti SC2 in the review.

 

[Damascus]

1 hour ago, （嗜杀本性）狼队 女 梅 said:

Out of the top of your head can you suggest a couple,

Msi seahawk X.  Same awesome pcb as the gaming X and a solid hybrid cooler.

 

1620 MHz / 1506 MHz (OC Mode)

 

https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-SEA-HAWK.html#hero-specification

[（嗜杀本性）狼队 女 梅]

11 hours ago, Damascus said:

Msi seahawk X.  Same awesome pcb as the gaming X and a solid hybrid cooler.

 

1620 MHz / 1506 MHz (OC Mode)

 

https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-SEA-HAWK.html#hero-specification

That's a 120 shy of the air cooled one stated above,
Boost: 1746 MHz / Base: 1632 MHz in OC mode Boost: 1721 MHz / Base: 1607 MHz in Gaming mode (Reference Card Boost: 1582 MHz / Base: 1480 MHz)

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And whats you guy's opinion on > https://www.dateks.lv/en/cenas/videokartes/147899_inno3d_geforce-gtx-1080-ti-11gb-gddr5x-ichill-x4-ultra
(Inno3D GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, 11GB, GDDR5X, iChill X4 Ultra) god what a long name,
It has a bigger Memory bandwidth, Same overclock stats as  GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gigabyte AORUS Xtreme Edition 11GB  but more memory to go with and an extra fan on the sides for SLI configs..

If there's nothing negative and the stats line up I will probably be going with this, It's either this or the Gigbyte. 
 

[Damascus]

38 minutes ago, （嗜杀本性）狼队 女 梅 said:

SLI configs

Hybrid is better anyways for sli as the radiator dissipates heat far away from the gpu's.  Don't air sli in general.

38 minutes ago, （嗜杀本性）狼队 女 梅 said:

That's a 120 shy of the air cooled one stated above,

Meaningless, all 1080 ti's will auto boost to the same near 2ghz no matter what if they can cool it.

[（嗜杀本性）狼队 女 梅]

9 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Hybrid is better anyways for sli as the radiator dissipates heat far away from the gpu's.  Don't air sli in general.

Meaningless, all 1080 ti's will auto boost to the same near 2ghz no matter what if they can cool it.

So the "Added" features don't really matter, So long if it's 100% cooled it should be able to clock 2010+ like these fancy air-cooled gpu's? Kinda a scammish marketing. 
Like the Ichill X4 has this "Bandwidth: 484.4 GB/s 494.2 GB/s"
As a market feature which makes me bother to consider it over the Gigabyte,  But if a Water cooled one which normally runs cooler and is the same as all these cards, It would be indeed better, But I hesitate because I almost see no solid overclock reviews of it, And it has a 8 pin and a 6 pin power ports, Over the 2 times 8 pins as the others, So I kinda feel like they are lying somewhere.