Sub $100.00 Ryzen 1600 Air cooler

[Tz000]

Looking to upgrade my stock wraith spire cooler that came with my Ryzen 1600. 

 

I currently have the chip OC'd @ 3.8Ghz (1.300v)  I have a very aggressive fan curve to keep temps down and with Aida64 stress test or repeated cinebench runs I'm seeing 72-75 degrees C.  I also have my case fans (4) all cranked up so needless to say my computer is quite loud but is maintaining reasonable temperatures.  I want to be able to run at lower temps and lower fan speeds if possible.

 

My biggest question is will I see a noticeable difference (8-10+degrees C lower ) going to something like the Noctua U12s, Phanteks TC12DX, or Phanteks TC14S? 

 

I have narrowed it down to those coolers above as they are all around 60.00$ CAD right now which I feel is reasonable.  Is there another company product that any of you would suggest?  its going into a Phanteks P400 Tempered glass case if that makes any difference.

 

Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated!

 

Thanks for your time.

 

 

[JaegerB]

Whoa, 3.8GHz on the stock cooler? What black magic is this?! Those coolers should be fine, I've seen more aggressive OCs on the 1700X with the noctua so no issues there. Also check out the Cooler Master Hyper 212X or 212 Evo as they are also good "bang-for-buck" coolers.

[GDRRiley]

Just now, JaegerB said:

Whoa, 3.8GHz on the stock cooler? What black magic is this?! Those coolers should be fine, I've seen more aggressive OCs on the 1700X with the noctua so no issues there. Also check out the Cooler Master Hyper 212X or 212 Evo as they are also good "bang-for-buck" coolers.

ryzen can oc almost to the max on the stock coolers. yeah amd does give good coolers in the box. I agree the nocta one is good 

[JaegerB]

Just now, GDRRiley said:

yeah amd does give good coolers in the box

The wraith spire rgb got me like:

[DocSwag]

You'd probably see a noticeable difference going to one of the coolers you mentioned. You'd probably be able to squeeze a bit more (3.9 or 4 ghz) out if you get a different cooler.

 

I'm not too familiar with the two phanteks coolers you mentioned but I know the noctua is quite decent.

 

Be quiet has the dark rock 3 which is a decent choice, though it's a bit more expensive.

 

I'm trying to remember the name of a cooler @herman mcpootis mentioned a day or two ago around your price range that does really good for the price. Maybe they can link it, since I can't remember what it is  

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, DocSwag said:

 

I'm trying to remember the name of a cooler @herman mcpootis mentioned a day or two ago around your price range that does really good for the price. Maybe they can link it, since I can't remember what it is  

did i mention a cooler 2 days ago?

[DocSwag]

Just now, herman mcpootis said:

did i mention a cooler 2 days ago?

I thought you did, not 100% sure but I think it was you?

 

Or maybe it was @Droidbot

 

God dang it I can't remember lol

[DocSwag]

@herman mcpootis wait no it was you. Found it.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5854/gamerstorm-lucifer-cpu-cooler-review/index7.html

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, DocSwag said:

I thought you did, not 100% sure but I think it was you?

 

Or maybe it was @Droidbot

 

God dang it I can't remember lol

was it the FSP windale 6? that's the only cooler i remember mentioning and it was some time ago IIRC.

[Herman Mcpootis]

4 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

@herman mcpootis wait no it was you. Found it.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5854/gamerstorm-lucifer-cpu-cooler-review/index7.html

oh, that one. works too, though even a 212 evo/m9a would keep a 1600 cooled well enough at 4ghz anyways.

 

[DocSwag]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

oh, that one. works too, though even a 212 evo/m9a would keep a 1600 cooled well enough a t 4ghz anyways.

 

I generally regard those not that much better than the stock tho, so I'm not sure if they're that worth getting over the stock cooler.

[Herman Mcpootis]

5 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

I generally regard those not that much better than the stock tho, so I'm not sure if they're that worth getting over the stock cooler.

eh, it'll get the job done, spire was at 89 degrees on 4ghz 1600 while the 212 was at 68 degrees celsius. 

[DocSwag]

4 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

eh, it'll get the job done, spire was at 89 degrees on 4ghz 1600 while the 212 was at 68 degrees celsius. 

Did he do noise tests? I can't watch the video right now due to crappy internet but I recall that noise tests weren't done.

 

The reason why I say this is because from this review it seems like the spire doesn't run as cool as the 212 evo at equivalent fan % speeds but also runs a lot quieter. So it's perf at a certain noise level is probably quite close to the 212 evo.

 

http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/amd/wraith-max-and-wraith-spire-cooler/1

[johndms]

21 minutes ago, Tz000 said:

Looking to upgrade my stock wraith spire cooler that came with my Ryzen 1600. 

 

I currently have the chip OC'd @ 3.8Ghz (1.300v)  I have a very aggressive fan curve to keep temps down and with Aida64 stress test or repeated cinebench runs I'm seeing 72-75 degrees C.  I also have my case fans (4) all cranked up so needless to say my computer is quite loud but is maintaining reasonable temperatures.  I want to be able to run at lower temps and lower fan speeds if possible.

 

My biggest question is will I see a noticeable difference (8-10+degrees C lower ) going to something like the Noctua U12s, Phanteks TC12DX, or Phanteks TC14S? 

 

I have narrowed it down to those coolers above as they are all around 60.00$ CAD right now which I feel is reasonable.  Is there another company product that any of you would suggest?  its going into a Phanteks P400 Tempered glass case if that makes any difference.

 

Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated!

 

Thanks for your time.

 

 

I'm impressed with your voltage at 3.8GHz.  I'm unable to go below 1.35v without Aida64 going all red-screen on me.  This usually happens after the 1 to 2 hour mark while stressing CPU/FPU/Cache.

 

I used the stock cooler for a few weeks before upgrading it to the Noctua NH-U12S SE-AM4.  My temperatures on stock cooler reached 73c in Aida64 and 80c in Prime95.  After adding the cooler, my temps dropped to around 60-62 in Aida64 and Prime95 respectively.  My ambient temps usually hover around 24c.  I'm very happy with the cooler's performance.  I tried 3.9GHz and temps stayed under 65c, but I had to put my voltage at 1.4125v before it became stable.  It failed Aida64 at 1.40v after 4 hours.

 

I'm probably going overboard with the stress testing, but I'm not satisfied until I can run Aida64 overnight without issues.  For the record, I'm unable to hit 4GHz at 1.45v (afraid to go higher) and, in my opinion, the performance gains from 3.8 to 3.95 really aren't worth the increased voltage/potential damage to cpu.  I current stay at 3.8GHz at 1.35v.  My Setup

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Did he do noise tests? I can't watch the video right now due to crappy internet but I recall that noise tests weren't done.

 

The reason why I say this is because from this review it seems like the spire doesn't run as cool as the 212 evo at equivalent fan % speeds but also runs a lot quieter. So it's perf at a certain noise level is probably quite close to the 212 evo.

 

http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/amd/wraith-max-and-wraith-spire-cooler/1

no noise tests, just temps.

[DocSwag]

14 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

no noise tests, just temps.

Yeah that's why I can't use those results. IMO there's no point in looking at temps if you have no idea if the thing is silent or a jet engine.

[Herman Mcpootis]

11 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Yeah that's why I can't use those results. IMO there's no point in looking at temps if you have no idea if the thing is silent or a jet engine.

ahh, i see. could always use the M9a, those are quieter IIRC.

[Tz000]

58 minutes ago, johndms said:

I'm impressed with your voltage at 3.8GHz.  I'm unable to go below 1.35v without Aida64 going all red-screen on me.  This usually happens after the 1 to 2 hour mark while stressing CPU/FPU/Cache.

 

I used the stock cooler for a few weeks before upgrading it to the Noctua NH-U12S SE-AM4.  My temperatures on stock cooler reached 73c in Aida64 and 80c in Prime95.  After adding the cooler, my temps dropped to around 60-62 in Aida64 and Prime95 respectively.  My ambient temps usually hover around 24c.  I'm very happy with the cooler's performance.  I tried 3.9GHz and temps stayed under 65c, but I had to put my voltage at 1.4125v before it became stable.  It failed Aida64 at 1.40v after 4 hours.

 

I'm probably going overboard with the stress testing, but I'm not satisfied until I can run Aida64 overnight without issues.  For the record, I'm unable to hit 4GHz at 1.45v (afraid to go higher) and, in my opinion, the performance gains from 3.8 to 3.95 really aren't worth the increased voltage/potential damage to cpu.  I current stay at 3.8GHz at 1.35v.  My Setup

I am surprised I got it working at this voltage haha ...  when I first built the PC a few weeks ago I could not  get passed 3.7 and even then that wasn't working all the time it would throttle down to 1.5Ghz and stay there.  Then I updated the bios, downloaded the ryzen power plan and got windows verified and its now been 3 days at 3.8Ghz (1.300v) hasnt crashed in a game yet either.  I have yet to do a 24 hour test on it but maybe ill try that tonight.

 

Thanks for your info on that Noctua cooler I'm impressed by how much of a difference that made for you I guess you would say its a worthy upgrade then.

 

Appreciate everyone elses input.

 

I have looked at the CM 212 coolers and although great bang for the buck its not much of an upgrade it is better but not by how much some of the other air coolers would be.