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Google says it will ban Neo-Nazi site after domain name switch

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So, a Neo-nazi group got dropped by go-daddy for their website. Just hours later, they registered on Google Domains, but are getting dropped again for violating Google's terms of service.

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Just hours after being dropped by GoDaddy, prominent white nationalist publication The Daily Stormer attempted to find a home at Google. As of press time, the site’s registration info pointed to domains.google.com, indicating the web giant had taken over services as registrar.

Shortly after the switch was noticed, Google announced plans to drop the site. “We are cancelling Daily Stormer’s registration with Google Domains for violating our terms of service,” the company said in a statement.

It’s not clear when Google itself became aware of the shifted registration. Google’s domain-management system is available to anyone with a Gmail account, and it’s likely the registration was shifted automatically after the relevant information was entered. Previous registration data indicates Daily Stormer founder Andrew Anglin is a Gmail user.

It is stated that there is nothing in google's terms of service about hateful speech.

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It’s still unclear which policy in the Terms of Service was violated. Unlike GoDaddy, the Google Domains’ Terms of Service does not currently include any provisions forbidding users from making violent threats. Google’s contact privacy agreement does include provisions against using WhoIS privacy settings to “to conceal involvement with activities that are... bigoted based on racial, ethnic... or political grounds.” However, the current registration does not seem to invoke any of those privacy provisions, and it’s unclear if the language would apply.

 

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I'd support revoking registrar authority for this selective censorship shit.

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8 minutes ago, Crossbred said:

This isn't a good path for google or any company to take politically...

Semi agreed, I mean I can see Googles POV here, they don't wanna be the hosts of this website (which is fine) but then again if these guys didn't violate any TaCs then do they really deserve this?

 

I mean can we as a collective keep banging on about internet freedom and then agree with internet censorship? I don't agree with these idiots but I respect their right to believe what they choose.

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3 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

Semi agreed, I mean I can see Googles POV here, they don't wanna be the hosts of this website (which is fine) but then again if these guys didn't violate any TaCs then do they really deserve this?

 

I mean can we as a collective keep banging on about internet freedom and then agree with internet censorship? I don't agree with these idiots but I respect their right to believe what they choose.

So Google should be fine with ISPs blocking Youtube then right?  It's "everyone gets to do whatever with their portion of the internet"?

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46 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

So Google should be fine with ISPs blocking Youtube then right?  It's "everyone gets to do whatever with their portion of the internet"?

I'm laughing, but there would be some hilarious irony if Google's actions vis a vis a Neo-Nazi site lost them the Net Neutrality rulings. Granted, Reddit screwed their legal protections because T_D pissed Spez off too much one week, so it wouldn't be the first time a top-10 world wide website did something catastrophically stupid for political reasons in the last 12 months.

 

But this is one of those actions that are going to get a lot of people thinking about creating alternate services. The instant you go from a "common service" to a "you're only safe here if you agree with our politics", you fundamental change the nature of the business relationship. Google just fired a left-wing, super intelligent Jew for pointing out that population distribution graphs exit. So, the result from Google is probably to be expected, and since it is a Neo-Nazi group, they'll generally be in the clear in this situation. Though, who's next?

 

5 cops were assassinated in Dallas, TX; a BernieBro nearly killed several Congressmen two months ago; and "Neo-Nazism" is now the "BIGGEST ISSUE IN THE WORLD!". Welcome to the Tech Wars. This isn't going to end well.

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I don't agree with nazism, communism, or any other political ideology that has to do with the mistreatment of people based on irrelevant factors or the desire to take away freedoms from the people. That said, simply because i don't agree with it and see it as hateful does not mean it does not have a right to exist.

inb4 "L00k at dis fuking nazi sympatheizer!"

I don't sympathize with nazism as an ideology, it's about the idea that if this can happen to nazis for this reason then it can happen to me for the same reason; if i want to create a website based on Satanism, i should be able to without interference from any any Abrahamic fundamentalists who see my content as "hateful" or "evil".

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Related, and probably is going to be a bigger issue, is Cloudflare. They're a DDoS protection service that'll serve anyone. As in ISIS recruiting websites. Clearly, someone called a meeting of the Silicon Valley leaders for Monday and agreed to axe "Neo-Nazi". So far, they've hit a few on the Right as well. (Nazism is, as it's always been, a Socialist movement. But for American political reasons, they call everyone on the Right a Nazi and have since at least the 80s.) The wrinkle is the fact that it's a "Trump Administration" DOJ. No one is going to cry or do much about protecting Neo-Nazis, but if there's any collateral damage to those that aren't? Expect a lot more "Break up Google!" memes to crop up. 

 

Next fault line will be Churches, more than likely. Though Facebook might sit that one out. Zuck wants to be President at some point. In a world where "everyone I don't like is a Nazi", basic Christian theology is heresy. The Tech War proceeds.

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36 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

5 cops were assassinated in Dallas, TX; a BernieBro nearly killed several Congressmen two months ago; and "Neo-Nazism" is now the "BIGGEST ISSUE IN THE WORLD!". Welcome to the Tech Wars. This isn't going to end well.

I just figure it's a slow news week so they're milking it for all its worth.

 

News in general is pretty shitty right now.  Between Neo Nazis and Trump circle jerking there's no time left for anything that I might actually be interested in.

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46 minutes ago, ravenshrike said:

So when do they remove any NAMBLA sites in their database?

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I'm more interested to know how long this thread will stay active for or will it get shut down as it becomes another political debate thread?

 

 

On the actual topic,  no laws have been broken,  so if your countries freedom of speech and civil liberties laws are good, then there is nothing to complain about.

Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge.  Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding.  

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16 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

I just figure it's a slow news week so they're milking it for all its worth.

 

News in general is pretty shitty right now.  Between Neo Nazis and Trump circle jerking there's no time left for anything that I might actually be interested in.

There's two layers.

 

Firstly, I like to wait for some after-action reports before I make too many judgments about an event. There have been rolling rallies about Statues for at least a year. (Lefties are flexing their iconoclast streak lately, that's what has started this.) The fairly clear picture now is that the rally was an intentional trap. The previous rallies about statues didn't have David Duke showing up, which is a tell that it was a "sting" for Media purposes. They invited a lot of people, some that generally should be ignored from polite society, while at the same time the Antifa/Alt-Left factions were revving up to crack some skulls. (They did this the entire election cycle... and since the election.)

 

The trap was the Mayor + Gov ordered the police to push the rally participants into a killzone. The real point was to get the militia guys to open fire on the Alt-Left. Militia guys are smarter than that, but the Media managed to get lucky & a guy with mental problems rammed into a crowd, killing 1. The family of the deceased Woman would be wise to have a wrongful death suit pending against the local government by next week. (The legal cases are going to stretch out for the next 3-10 years about this; I'd recommend the City settle quickly.)

 

The second is almost no one actually gets Trump. Something he appreciates. He runs his media operation much like The Apprentice. The "drama" he creates let's him get actual work done. Because, realize, he got North Korea to stand down, opened up anti-competitive Trade investigations against China and has NAFTA negotiations coming up today. Normal Media screws most things up because they're propaganda arms of groups that have specific interests, but the "News" is still supposed to be profitable. Trump can suck away all of the other attention they'd pay to things they could cause problems about.

 

Best trick: when the Media is up in arms about something/someone he blasted on Twitter in the morning, look around the International News. Something important is probably happening. Once you realize it's actually the Media that causes much of the problem, it all makes a lot more sense.

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12 minutes ago, AshleyAshes said:

Does anyone else fondly when THIS was how Nazi's were properly dealt with?

 

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People don't care about facts or history.   Ideals are always the flavor of the day.  In my experience people routinely dismiss history if it doesn't support their ideals.

Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge.  Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding.  

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4 minutes ago, mr moose said:

People don't care about facts or history.   Ideals are always the flavor of the day.  In my experience people routinely dismiss history if it doesn't support their ideals.

Well apparently CloudFlare remembers the war.

 

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/08/racist-daily-stormer-goes-down-again-as-cloudflare-drops-support/

 

CloudFlare dropped The Daily Stormer, so now the largest white supremacy site on the internet, named after a Nazi run newspaper started in 1923, is on the internet without DDOS protection...  That's like running naked through a cactus forrest

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4 minutes ago, AshleyAshes said:

Well apparently CloudFlare remembers the war.

 

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/08/racist-daily-stormer-goes-down-again-as-cloudflare-drops-support/

 

CloudFlare dropped The Daily Stormer, so now the largest white supremacy site on the internet, named after a Nazi run newspaper started in 1923, is on the internet without DDOS protection...  That's like running naked through a cactus forrest

pepperidge farm remembers also.

Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge.  Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding.  

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2 hours ago, Memories4K said:

I don't agree with nazism, communism, or any other political ideology that has to do with the mistreatment of people based on irrelevant factors or the desire to take away freedoms from the people. That said, simply because i don't agree with it and see it as hateful does not mean it does not have a right to exist.

inb4 "L00k at dis fuking nazi sympatheizer!"

I don't sympathize with nazism as an ideology, it's about the idea that if this can happen to nazis for this reason then it can happen to me for the same reason; if i want to create a website based on Satanism, i should be able to without interference from any any Abrahamic fundamentalists who see my content as "hateful" or "evil".

But has a Satanist Group ever been responsible for the deaths of Millions of innocent people?

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3 minutes ago, PocketNerd said:

But has a Satanist Group ever been responsible for the deaths of Millions of innocent people?

it really depends on where you draw the line as to whether the number is relevant.   Is the severity of the issue any different if the group is responsible for one unnecessary death or does it have to be a much larger number before you are not allowed to have an opinion? 

 

There have been plenty of satanic groups that have murdered.  Are they not just as bad?

Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge.  Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding.  

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Speaking of this, when will we get a ban on Antifa from Google? I heard it's classified as a terrorist organization under New Jersey's Homeland Security office.

They seem to want to censor anything that "offends".

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1 minute ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

Speaking of this, when will we get a ban on Antifa from Google? I heard it's classified as a terrorist organization under New Jersey's Homeland Security office.

They seem to want to censor anything that "offends".

those guys seem to have a protective shield, same as blm minorities/victim status :-|

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2 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

Speaking of this, when will we get a ban on Antifa from Google? I heard it's classified as a terrorist organization under New Jersey's Homeland Security office.

They seem to want to censor anything that "offends".

You actually READ the article and used your CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS to understand that Google only dropped The Daily Stormer from it's domain registry service leaving the website to use an alternative service for it's domain registry and has in no way banished the site from appearing in Google search results, right?  Because since that's what this article is about, you seem pretty silly to demand that 'antifa', a vague definition, and not a specific website that has a domain registered through Google's registry service, be 'banned' by Google.

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9 minutes ago, mr moose said:

it really depends on where you draw the line as to whether the number is relevant.   Is the severity of the issue any different if the group is responsible for one unnecessary death or does it have to be a much larger number before you are not allowed to have an opinion? 

 

There have been plenty of satanic groups that have murdered.  Are they not just as bad?

It's a matter of proportionality. Yes there are bad Satanist groups (there are also good ones, oddly enough) and those need to be shut down, but none have ever started a world war nor caused a loss of life on the scale that Nazi's have.

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