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If only it wasn't overpriced or was the one shipped with i7's....

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5 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

If only it wasn't overpriced or was the one shipped with i7's....

It's Intel though... They love to overprice stuff for no reason other than the fact they can. 

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First impression without watching the video:

 

More mass in theory equals more thermal dissipation, but it'll probably still suck because you [intel] were too lazy to get a better fan that doesnt try to mimic a jet engine

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1 minute ago, TVwazhere said:

First impression without watching the video:

 

More mass in theory equals more thermal dissipation, but it'll probably still suck because you [intel] were too lazy to get a better fan that doesnt try to mimic a jet engine

A+! I watched it, the Intel fan does seems to aspire to be a Boeing from Linus' description. 

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1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

A+! I watched it, the Intel fan does seems to aspire to be a Boeing from Linus' description. 

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could have still mounted the wraith cooler to the intel chip with a mounting mechanism from cheap coolers. The ones that use amd's hook mounts. The hooks are the same with AM2 and AM4. AM4 just changed where they screw into the board, but put the hooks in the same spot

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2 minutes ago, Dietrichw said:

could have still mounted the wraith cooler to the intel chip with a mounting mechanism from cheap coolers. The ones that use amd's hook mounts. The hooks are the same with AM2 and AM4. AM4 just changed where they screw into the board, but put the hooks in the same spot

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Or 3D print one, i mean they have a 3D printer, the software and the knowledge to do it if they want to.

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intel had better coolers like this index.php?ct=news&action=file&id=1307

 

or their asetek AiO from years back. 

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There's an Intel made AIO that I thought this video was about when I saw the notification. Unfortunately it seems to be out of stock in the 2 minutes I took to google the product name. Only(?) for 2011 sockets though

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835203006

 

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So, all that effort and you didn't bother to test it with the non-stock thermal compound? Hardly a fair comparison to all the others, I'm guessing they're all old stock and you didn't use the stock compound on them. Also if you're going to review something that is quite obviously going to be pretty shit how about seeing what it takes to make it not shit, like ghetto rigging a decent fan on there?

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1 minute ago, The Ran said:

So, all that effort and you didn't bother to test it with the non-stock thermal compound? Hardly a fair comparison to all the others, I'm guessing they're all old stock and you didn't use the stock compound on them. Also if you're going to review something that is quite obviously going to be pretty shit how about seeing what it takes to make it not shit, like ghetto rigging a decent fan on there?

The second round of testing was done with IC Diamond on everything

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2 minutes ago, AlexTheGreatish said:

The second round of testing was done with IC Diamond on everything

What second round of testing? It gets 81c in the first chart and 81c in the second (comparing to the AMD cooler), so are you saying that Intel's stock compound performs identically to IC Diamond?

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Just now, The Ran said:

What second round of testing? It gets 81c in the first chart and 81c in the second (comparing to the AMD cooler), so are you saying that Intel's stock compound performs identically to IC Diamond?

Yup

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3 minutes ago, AlexTheGreatish said:

Yup

So is IC Diamond the best you've found in testing? If so that's surprising that the Intel stuff compares so well to it. Still I know there is stuff out there that would perform better, would've been nice to see that along with the best fan you've got clamped onto it with cable ties. Obviously no one who watched the video will buy it so it's just for entertainment, and that sure would've been entertaining.

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The hell is this, a video for ten year olds? 

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19 minutes ago, tsk said:

The hell is this, a video for ten year olds? 

Might I remind you the majority of the audience (if not all of them)? Here it is:

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle said:

Might I remind you the majority of the audience (if not all of them)? Here it is:

 

Sorry I forgot. 

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Can we get all Intel stock coolers that come with CPUs vs all stock coolers that come with AMD CPUs?

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Color balance and focus seems like  shit in this video.  I watch "Peru in  8K" and it's like real life, this one I'm pretty sure I could do better quality with my iphone. If it was filmed on a  Red 8K then wow you guys are fucking it up somewhere in the process.

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@LinusTech dude, there are AMD to intel mount adaptors. you already have one from the shitty $5 cooler you reviewed a few months ago... dahell are you talking about??

 

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2 hours ago, The Ran said:

So is IC Diamond the best you've found in testing? If so that's surprising that the Intel stuff compares so well to it. Still I know there is stuff out there that would perform better, would've been nice to see that along with the best fan you've got clamped onto it with cable ties. Obviously no one who watched the video will buy it so it's just for entertainment, and that sure would've been entertaining.

I was actually a bit curious about that while making this video and did some testing, turns out that the Noctua thermal paste, Intel stock paste, IC Diamond all are the same.  It seems like all decent thermal pastes perform the same.  I'm pretty sure the majority of quality thermal paste is sourced from 3M anyway so it makes sense that it all performs very similarly.

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I just want to post my Expericene I had with my i7-7700k and a Stock Cooler.

 

Background:

I have a Silent Loop 280, where the Pump began to disintegrate itself. For a replacement I had to send in my broken one, before recieving a new one.

So In the time inbetween I had to use...something...I had already sold my old PC including its Cooler.. But I found the unused stock cooler form that PCs CPU.

It was an i7-2600k. Its stock cooler had that Copperblock right in the middle.

 

My i7-7700k is delidded. I've done it myself and it was also the first one I've ever delidded. Took my time and was careful, always best to wipe one more time with Alcohol XD.

 

So I removed the old Paste form the stock cooler, which was still "fresh" after 5 Years of Shelflife. I used my TG Kryonaut on it.

 

I've tested with Prime 95 and Cinebench R15.

@4.5GHz

Without delid and AIO 60-69°C

With delid and AIO 50-60°C

With delid stock Cooler 70-76°C

@5Ghz

Without delid and AIO 90-95°C

With delid and AIO 60-69°C

With delid and stock Cooler around 95°C

 

The 5GHz Tests with over 90°C weren't long tests, I wasn't comfortable to torture them for long in that Heat.

But Gaming was possible for a longer period of time. Many Games depend more on the GPU.

 

I can say with my CPU that delidding makes even a stock cooler viable for Overclock, but you need something to drown that Fan noise....like a Fly on Steroids...

 

The complete Delidding-Process wasn't that expensive. 30€ for the reuseable Delidtool (Delid Die Mate 2 in my case), 10€ for Conductonaut (which seems to be more stable long term then Liquid Ultra), 10€ for Hightemp-Siliconglue. 10€ for 1L!!! 99% Isopropyl alcohol.

All which are usable many times over...

The Process itself is fairly easy and no technical knowhow is needed.

 

 

About different Thermalpastes.

It all comes to the bottleneck.

A non-delidded i7-7700k with stock cooler has 2 bottlenecks, the Paste on the DIe and the stock cooler.

The Paste on the DIE can only transfer a limited amount of Heat. If the Paste on the IHS is much better then you still don't see much of a difference.

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Pretty much the "AMD Max" Cooler fan is pretty much better than the stock Intel fan on steroids... Right? :-P

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@LinusTech Would liquid cooling work, even though 100 Celsius is the boiling point of water?  

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