Hardkernel working on tiny NAS called ODROID-HC1

[snortingfrogs]

Looks like a cute little NAS =)

 

- SoC – Samsung Exynos 5422 quad core ARM Cortex-A15 @ 2.0GHz quad core ARM Cortex-A7 @ 1.4GHz with Mali-T628 MP6 GPU supporting OpenGL ES 3.0 / 2.0 / 1.1 and OpenCL 1.1 Full profile
- System Memory – 2GB LPDDR3 RAM PoP
- Storage – Micro SD slot up to 64GB + SATA interface via JMicron JMS578 USB 3.0 to SATA bridge chipset
- Network Connectivity – 10/100/1000Mbps Ethernet (via USB 3.0)
- USB – 1x USB 2.0 port
- Debugging – Serial console header
- Power Supply
    5V via power barrel
    12V unpopulated header for future 3.5″ designs [Update: ODROID-HC2 is in the works, to be released in November 2017]
    “Backup” header for battery for RTC

 

Source: https://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=27919

 

 

[The Sloth]

looks cool, PI nas is cheaper. 

[samcool55]

What would be a use-case of this?

I mean most routers allow a USB hdd so as a stand-alone NAS it seems a bit overpowered.

 

And the Pi is a thing so for lightweight home network stuff it's probably a better option.

[The Sloth]

2 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

And the Pi is a thing so for lightweight home network stuff it's probably a better option.

by far especially with PI having lower power usage and better community. 

[Bananasplit_00]

Neat design but pretty useless for those who are a willing to make a pocket NAS for cheaper 

[Sir Asvald]

16 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

looks cool, PI nas is cheaper. 

Limited to 100Mbps nic.  

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, Abdul201588 said:

Limited to 100Mbps nic.  

don't think anyone looking for a cheap NAS around this pricepoint cares about gigabit speed. 

[Sauron]

29 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

looks cool, PI nas is cheaper. 

BUT, it doesn't have sata

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, Sauron said:

BUT, it doesn't have sata

you can get a sata to USB

 

[Sauron]

6 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

you can get a sata to USB

 

doesn't work as well as a real native port. plus, 100Mbit ethernet. It's not that the pi is bad, but this one is more expensive for a reason

[The Sloth]

2 minutes ago, Sauron said:

one is more expensive for a reason

can't have everything, you can make a small pi NAS for a price of one of these. 

[bobhays]

4 minutes ago, Sauron said:

doesn't work as well as a real native port. plus, 100Mbit ethernet. It's not that the pi is bad, but this one is more expensive for a reason

This one isn't native either. The spec says it uses a USB to SATA bridge, it's just integrated into the board. 

[TheKDub]

Pretty neat. 

 

Once early 2018 rolls around and brings the IEEE 802.3bt standard with it, it'll be easy to power something like this via PoE.

 

Spoiler

 

PoE (IEEE 802.3af-2003) provides up to 15.4W of DC power (~44V ~350mA)

PoE+ (IEEE 802.3at-2009) provides up to 25.5W (44v-57v , 448mA-580mA)

PoE (IEEE 802.3bt aka 4PPoE) Type 3 provides up to 55W, and type 4 provides up to 90-100W. (Current planned standards expected to be released in early 2018)

Spoiler

I might be wrong. I'm not an electrical engineer or anything.

 

Looking at that, it shouldn't be too hard to do. The ODRIOD-HC1 uses either a 5v4a (20W) power supply or 5v6a (30W) power supply, so looking at that, with PoE+ it should be able to be powered, though 4PPoE Type 3 would do a much better job.

(Drop the voltage and the amperage will go up. PoE+ at 48v 530mA (common) would convert down to roughly 5v 4a after power loss is considered. That'd be just enough to power the tiny nas.)

 

 

 

[The Benjamins]

if this is able to saturate the Ethernet port and can cluster them.

[Suika]

1 hour ago, samcool55 said:

I mean most routers allow a USB hdd so as a stand-alone NAS it seems a bit overpowered.

Not all routers have decent native NAS options, or even saturate a HDD's speed. I know within the same price bracket, you can watch one router only be capable of doing read/writes at 50MB/s and another at 100MB/s. At least for me, I'd be interested in having the router with weaker NAS options and have an external NAS, even if it'd cost a bit more.

1 hour ago, nerdslayer1 said:

looks cool, PI nas is cheaper. 

Pi doesn't have Gigabit ethernet, so that's a deal breaker for some users.

[The Sloth]

3 minutes ago, Suika said:

Pi doesn't have Gigabit ethernet, so that's a deal breaker for some users.

you have to understand for the price, some things are going to be missing, these NASs are more for an overnight backup than a video editing server. 

[Suika]

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

you have to understand for the price, some things are going to be missing, these NASs are more for an overnight backup than a video editing server. 

So then understandably, for a greater price, you can reduce what's missing and get a more fully fledged solution without going overboard.

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, Suika said:

So then understandably, for a greater price, you can reduce what's missing and get a more fully fledged solution without going overboard.

i would sacrifice a bit of functionality for a better community 

[Suika]

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

i would sacrifice a bit of functionality for a better community 

That's a compromise you're willing to make, but not everybody. Which device is better is subjective and depends on the user's needs and wants.

[snortingfrogs]

For me the 100 Mbps port on the RPI is a deal breaker for using it as Web Server hosting files, that's why this product is much better for me, just pop in a 2TB+ drive, install Linux, Ngninx and I'm ready.

[Nicnac]

ERRMAHGEERRRD ITS SO CUTE

[Nicnac]

2 hours ago, snortingfrogs said:

For me the 100 Mbps port on the RPI is a deal breaker for using it as Web Server hosting files, that's why this product is much better for me, just pop in a 2TB+ drive, install Linux, Ngninx and I'm ready.

True, the pi makes for a working but horribly slow nas

[silberdrachi]

16 hours ago, Abdul201588 said:

Limited to 100Mbps nic.  

while that does kind of suck, if youre planning on using this to do something like giving life to some old HDD that you didnt want in your main tower you werent going to get 100mbps anyway.

 

And while youre still using it as a nas you could have it be a webserver supporting a basic webpage, a personal secure VPN, and a local DNS service that can block all ads on your network for free. (LAMP, OpenVPN, and PiHole respectively)

 

Cool little device but limited functionality for the average home user IMO.

[Sir Asvald]

41 minutes ago, silberdrachi said:

while that does kind of suck, if youre planning on using this to do something like giving life to some old HDD that you didnt want in your main tower you werent going to get 100mbps anyway.

 

And while youre still using it as a nas you could have it be a webserver supporting a basic webpage, a personal secure VPN, and a local DNS service that can block all ads on your network for free. (LAMP, OpenVPN, and PiHole respectively)

 

Cool little device but limited functionality for the average home user IMO.

I've got OpenVPN running on my RPi3.  

[potoooooooo]

Is the sata port full speed?

 

The reason rpi nas suck is also because of being limited to USB 2.0, not just the 100M ethernet