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1 minute ago, Dylanc1500 said:

Ya I realized that lol. Oh well, it happens. I've seen some of them at Microcenter for 299 for the past few months though.

I'll take your word for it as i have no proof otherwise but i find this extremely hard to believe with the current gpu market. 299 is below MSRP by a good 60 bucks and current GPUS are selling for well over 60 of MSRP and in very limited stocks.

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1 minute ago, Castdeath97 said:

Results from hardware unboxed showed that it performs right around the 1070.

I saw it win almost in every game at UHD, and most in 1440p

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Can't wait to get my hands on a 64 vega water cooled. Power consumption is never a problem for me. Even if It draws 500 watts. My cpu can draw around 300 watts overclocked. My power suppy can handle it. My only problem is overclocking. For dx12 games I like this GPU. AMd fine wine never disappoints 

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7 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

I highly doubt that: if there were anywhere below 350 they were probably refurbished or returned after mining them into oblivion.

I don't know why they are that cheap but it's always a cycle of three different models. One being a Gigabyte Windforce, ASUS dual, and an Evga card. 

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50 minutes ago, VagabondWraith said:

Wait for Navi

This needs to stop. Waiting for the next thing needs to stop. AMD Radeon devision needs to be punished for over hyping and massively under delivering. I hope in compute Vega will be compatible, and those TFs are real [or "gigaflops" how JayzTwoCents knows them] and not another marketing BS.

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13 minutes ago, Castdeath97 said:

Results from hardware unboxed showed that it performs right around the 1070.

Actually I have to call those out as flawed: He is putting a fairly nice AIB 1070 model (MSI) vs the craptastic reference blower. If you look at other reviewers Reference vs Founders the Vega 56 actually has more ties and wins all things considered.

 

Once AIB Vega 56 come out (which in fairness, might be quite a while before those show up) they might be more comfortable trading blows with the 1070. The issue here is mostly twofold imo:

 

1) Power: I might be at fault but fact remains I already build my rig around a much lower power consumption asumption, doubt I am the only one so requiring a PSU upgrade just isn't attractive when I know Nvidia Volta will probably be @ far more reasonable tdps.

 

2) Timing: It's been over a year. Having this card even 5 or 6 months ago would have helped them immensely: they should have planned for a non-HBM2 model. As it stands yeah, not gonna last long with a bit of a lead over the 1070 I expect Volta maybe even this same year or early next year.

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2 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

Actually I have to call those out as flawed: He is putting a fairly nice AIB 1070 model (MSI) vs the craptastic reference blower. If you look at other reviewers Reference vs Founders the Vega 56 actually has more ties and wins all things considered.

 

Once AIB Vega 56 come out (which in fairness, might be quite a while before those show up) they might be more comfortable trading blows with the 1070. The issue here is mostly twofold imo:

 

1) Power: I might be at fault but fact remains I already build my rig around a much lower power consumption asumption, doubt I am the only one so requiring a PSU upgrade just isn't attractive when I know Nvidia Volta will probably be @ far more reasonable tdps.

 

2) Timing: It's been over a year. Having this card even 5 or 6 months ago would have helped them immensely: they should have planned for a non-HBM2 model. As it stands yeah, not gonna last long with a bit of a lead over the 1070 I expect Volta maybe even this same year or early next.

Don't think that a well cooled 56 would make a massive difference however, maybe drivers will.

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Just now, Castdeath97 said:

Don't think that a well cooled 56 would make a massive difference however, maybe drivers will.

It is significant for the Nvidia cards though.

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50 minutes ago, mikegray said:

<SNIP>

 

OTOH, those package deals!

 

If I get a bundle, not only do I avoid paying $200 MORE for a monitor with g-sync - I could actually get a $200 DISCOUNT on a really sweet 1440 Samsung ultrawide monitor with freesync and HDR. to sit tight for another year and wait for REAL 4k OLED montors with freesync - and an AMD card that can drive them.

 

<SNIP>

 

Kind of sad to quote my own post, but I just made a discovery about those bundles:

 

Depending on where you are, those package deals are not NEARLY as sweet. For example, in Germany, while you can get 100 EUR off a Ryzen 7 or 8, there's no available discount on a Samsung CF791 monitor. 

 

That's a shame. Since I'm in Switzerland (probably get the same conditions as Germany), my interest just dropped by a good bit. I was seriously thinking about building a whole new system around that bundle: starting out with a Ryzen 1700, a water cooled Vega 64 and a Samsung CF791, I could have had da very nice, new system and retired my current rig. Now ... not so much.

 

Moral of the story: If you're looking at one of those bundles, make sure to check on the deal in your own region.

 

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Congrats AMD on making a card that competes with other cards over a year old and after market hikes will be the same if not more expensive. I mean thats cool...I guess.

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Soooooo, Vega 56 is pretty much the only one worthwhile; and everyone should wait for the AIB models of it anyway. Hopefully it scales well with a nice cooler?

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Kinda expected. If they had a card that can beat 1080ti... We would know all about it long time ago. Now we know for sure why they were so quiet.

 

I was looking to upgrade my 970, but at this point I can wait for 2060/2070 (or w/e they will call it). I don't see a reason to buy a Vega. Now I regret not buying that Fury X for 350 cad a while ago... 

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Is reading all those reviews good and will give some information or just reading anandtech's article gonna be enough?

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"the guys with their fancy 1440p ultrawide freesync monitors have finally a real graphicscard to buy" 

- felt like linus was talking directly to me :D guess who`s getting vega 56

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Time to go with Navi...

 

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1 hour ago, mikegray said:

I've been Team Red since forever, and I've been driving a 2560 / 1440 non-freesync screen with a 2x CF 290x setup for a few years now. I've been planning this upgrade for well over a year: a single Vega (God I'm sick of CF!!)

Interesting, I've not really had much problems with my 290X CF setup, 2560x1600 Dell. I'm only just now starting to look to upgrade since I got ref cards with 4GB VRAM and games are starting to push above that mark at my res.

 

However never again will I go with a ref AMD card, mine are water cooled but the power phase design is shit compared to later cards and are about as stable as drunk toddler when overclocking the core.

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37 minutes ago, Tam3n said:

What comes after Navi?

Kappa, follow by SuperNova,  follow by AMDeath. :P

 

 

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1 minute ago, leadeater said:

Interesting, I've not really had much problems with my 290X CF setup, 2560x1600 Dell. I'm only just now starting to look to upgrade since I got ref cards with 4GB VRAM and games are starting to push above that mark at my res.

 

However never again will I go with a ref AMD card, mine are water cooled but the power phase design is shit compared to later cards and are about as stable as drunk toddler when overclocking the core.

Do you think it is worth going to Vega from 290CF?

Why not Nvidia?

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7 minutes ago, StarsOfPaleidas said:

Do you think it is worth going to Vega from 290CF?

Why not Nvidia?

Not sure haven't looked in to it much, if I upgrade it's going to be a full system replacement and I still want to go with two GPUs cos err... my case is huge lol.

 

Likely time frame is early next year though so the whole looming Volta thing makes it hard, damn these staggered releases from AMD and Nvidia.

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