EK Confirms 4.2GHz easily attainable on Threadripper

[goodtofufriday]

 

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6spjt7/ek_confirm_42ghz_easily_attainable_on_threadripper/

 

 

My take is that this is very Exciting. I've read left and right about how TR is supposed to be thermal limited at 4ghz full stop. But with EK saying that 4.2 is easy, then I'm very hopeful for some very nice over clocks.

 

AMDJoe Shared this, but keep it within expectations, its not a magic method.

 

All the more reason that Asrock needs to make an TR itx board

 

 

 

[tom_w141]

All TR reviews suggest otherwise.

 

Also zen isn't thermal limited so to speak its voltage limited. Voltage required climbs exponentially around 4GHz. Yes you can reach higher with crazy cooling but that's because insane voltages are required. That's a process limit not a thermal one.

[The Benjamins]

2 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

 

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6spjt7/ek_confirm_42ghz_easily_attainable_on_threadripper/

 

 

My take is that this is very Exciting. I've read left and right about how TR is supposed to be thermal limited at 4ghz full stop. But with EK saying that 4.2 is easy, then I'm very hopeful for some very nice over clocks.

 

All the more reason that Asrock needs to make an TR itx board

 

Reviewers have shown it going to 4.0 GHz and going above that makes it unstable.

 

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/asus_x399_rog_zenith_extreme_and_ryzen_1950x_threadripper_review/2

 

Maybe with this block it will help a bit.

[leadeater]

Just a quick FYI for anyone that doesn't know Threadripper reviews have been released so I'd go read those before commenting. Quick tip TR is very power efficient at stock, much lower power draw than X299, however once OC'd wow them electrons get punished hard.

[DocSwag]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

All TR reviews suggest otherwise

For me at least I haven't been able to find a lot of OCing tests on it, only one I saw was guru3d which said they could hit 4 ghz and 4.1 was doable but with over 1.4v.

 

btw OP, I saw earlier an article on techpowerup saying that threadripper is binned and has the top 5% zeppelin dies. 

[The Benjamins]

Just now, leadeater said:

Just a quick FYI for anyone that doesn't know Threadripper reviews have been released so I'd go read those before commenting. Quick tip TR is very power efficient at stock, much lower power draw than X299, however once OC'd wow them electrons get punished hard.

Ya the extra 200+W for going from stock to 4.0

[goodtofufriday]

2 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

All TR reviews suggest otherwise.

 

Also zen isn't thermal limited so to speak its voltage limited. Voltage required climbs exponentially around 4GHz. Yes you can reach higher with crazy cooling but that's because insane voltages are required. That's a process limit not a thermal one.

 

1 minute ago, The Benjamins said:

Reviewers have shown it going to 4.0 GHz and going above that makes it unstable.

 

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/asus_x399_rog_zenith_extreme_and_ryzen_1950x_threadripper_review/2

 

Maybe with this block it will help a bit.

If EK is making that comment I'm sure its not lightly. It might be down to the board they are using. Just reporting what EK is saying.

[leadeater]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

For me at least I haven't been able to find a lot of OCing tests on it, only one I saw was guru3d which said they could hit 4 ghz and 4.1 was doable but with over 1.4v.

 

btw OP, I saw earlier an article on techpowerup saying that threadripper is binned and has the top 5% zeppelin dies. 

Check out Gamers Nexus they have OC power and temps.

[tom_w141]

3 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Just a quick FYI for anyone that doesn't know Threadripper reviews have been released so I'd go read those before commenting. Quick tip TR is very power efficient at stock, much lower power draw than X299, however once OC'd wow them electrons get punished hard.

What amazes me more is that not a single TR review is in the news and reviews section yet. I meant Linus has a "review" but at 8 minutes its probably about as deep as the kiddy pool. GN and HWU for example have half hour reviews out and paper articles and its not even being discussed  

[tom_w141]

Just now, goodtofufriday said:

 

If EK is making that comment I'm sure its not lightly. It might be down to the board they are using. Just reporting what EK is saying.

See @leadeater's comment and follow his advice

[leadeater]

2 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

What amazes me more is that not a single TR review is in the news and reviews section yet. I meant Linus has a "review" but at 8 minutes its probably about as deep as the kiddy pool. GN and HWU for example have half hour reviews out and paper articles.

Yea I said in mod chat "Brace yourselves for news section spam, Threadripper reviews just went live", yet nothing weird lol.

[tom_w141]

Just now, leadeater said:

Yea I said in mod chat "Brace yourselves for news section spam, Threadripper reviews are out", yet nothing weird lol.

Yeah nearly 2 full hours wtf lol. I mean I'm at work so I don't to do it as I've already got 1 thread in the news section today generating plenty of notifications  I need less distractions not more

[Damascus]

4.2 is probably XFR folks

[goodtofufriday]

3 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

See @leadeater's comment and follow his advice

I did. He said the electronics get pushed hard. Not that it was impossible. Which is why I commented that it might be down the board that EK was using. 

[DocSwag]

4 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Check out Gamers Nexus they have OC power and temps.

I need to look more closely when reading their reviews lol this is the second friggin time I missed something they said about OCing  

4 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

What amazes me more is that not a single TR review is in the news and reviews section yet. I meant Linus has a "review" but at 8 minutes its probably about as deep as the kiddy pool. GN and HWU for example have half hour reviews out and paper articles.

Ikr, it's so weird lol

 

I woulda posted by now but I'm too lazy and don't really give a crap

[The Benjamins]

3 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Yeah nearly 2 full hours wtf lol. I mean I'm at work so I don't to do it as I've already got 1 thread in the news section today generating plenty of notifications  I need less distractions not more

Same, I would want to put some effort into it and I can't do that at work.

[leadeater]

2 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

I woulda posted by now but I'm too lazy and don't really give a crap

I think everyone has had enough AMD news. We're all cowering below chest high walls waiting for the AMD news bullets to stop hitting.

[tom_w141]

2 minutes ago, Damascus said:

4.2 is probably XFR folks

I was about to say this

1 minute ago, goodtofufriday said:

I did. He said the electronics get pushed hard. Not that it was impossible. Which is why I commented that it might be down the board that EK was using. 

As said its likely the XFR they are referring to. XFR is linked directly to thermals so they are saying with their WB it XFR boosts easily.

 

Also everyone got sent Asus Zenith boards which are the top of the high end.

[Ravager911]

According to AMD all Threadripper dies are binned Zen-dies.

[The Benjamins]

1 minute ago, Ravager911 said:

According to AMD all Threadripper dies are binned Zen-dies.

I saw in a article state it is the top 5% from the fab that go into TR4. which makes it a very high chance for all to hit 4.0+Ghz.

[PCGuy_5960]

If you overcook using p states you can keep XFR AFAIK. So this is probably XFR

[DocSwag]

4 minutes ago, leadeater said:

I think everyone has had enough AMD news. We're all cowering below chest high walls waiting for the AMD news bullets to stop hitting.

Especially Intel

[goodtofufriday]

2 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

I was about to say this

As said its likely the XFR they are referring to. XFR is linked directly to thermals so they are saying with their WB it XFR boosts easily.

 

Also everyone got sent Asus Zenith boards which are the top of the high end.

As for XFR, possibly so. Still a good thing that WC can get XFR to still go. So maybe you can OC some more. If there is a monoblock then cooling the vram may also help over all.

And Being EK who makes water blocks and monoblocks, im sure they have some pre-release boards. 

[The Benjamins]

Just now, goodtofufriday said:

As for XFR, possibly so. Still a good thing that WC can get XFR to still go. So maybe you can OC some more. If there is a monoblock then cooling the vram may also help over all.

And Being EK who makes water blocks and monoblocks, im sure they have some pre-release boards. 

Logan at OC3D saw the socket get really hot, and used a fan to cool it and the back plat. he stated the VRM on the Asus Zenith stayed cool even when it was eating 600+W

[goodtofufriday]

1 minute ago, The Benjamins said:

Logan at OC3D saw the socket get really hot, and used a fan to cool it and the back plat. he stated the VRM on the Asus Zenith stayed cool even when it was eating 600+W

Would be interesting to see a monoblock that includes the socket itself, if thats what EK did. 

 

Impressive that the vrm stayed cool though. I had to buy EKs vrm block for my crosshair v foruma z board when i put a 9590 in it.