Enermax first out the gate with AIO for Threadripper.

[ravenshrike]

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cases_cooling/enermax_reveals_their_threadripper_specific_liqteck_tr4_aio_liquid_cooler/1

 

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ENERMAX LIQTECH TR4, the closed-loop liquid cooler, is custom-designed especially for the top-end enthusiast Threadripper CPUs.

The LIQTECH TR4’s base plate can cover the entire Threadripper’s IHS (integrated heat spreader) to deliver greater heat transfer efficiency and faster dissipation.

Furthermore, with the innovative high-flow-rate pump and patented Shunt-Channel-Technology (SCT) coldplate design, LIQTECH TR4 can deliver extremely high cooling capacity of 500W+TDP for heavily overclocked CPUs and demanding HEDT systems.

Should be interesting to see the performance bump over Asetek.

 

 

[tom_w141]

Pretty impressive that they are invested enough in TR to make a dedicated AIO.

[ravenshrike]

7 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Pretty impressive that they are invested enough in TR to make a dedicated AIO.

By being first out the gate with a decent product they can probably bank on at least breaking even pretty quick.

[tom_w141]

1 minute ago, ravenshrike said:

By being first out the gate with a decent product they can probably bank on at least breaking even pretty quick.

R&D, Salaries, Tooling, Sampling, Testing and Production cost hundreds of thousands. They will need to shift a lot of these. Which means they think TR will be a popular HEDT platform and worth the development cost.

[Taf the Ghost]

13 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

R&D, Salaries, Tooling, Sampling, Testing and Production cost hundreds of thousands. They will need to shift a lot of these. Which means they think TR will be a popular HEDT platform and worth the development cost.

Isn't the coverage & mount holes the same for the Epyc version of the socket? If so, that would explain a bit of it. There'll be a market for AIOs for people making smaller Epyc servers.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

33 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Pretty impressive that they are invested enough in TR to make a dedicated AIO.

Two AIOs glued together. RIP ecosystem.

[Bananasplit_00]

My guess is that they glued two coldplates together basically and then just have one pump and one radiator for the entire thing

[tom_w141]

4 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

My guess is that they glued two coldplates together basically and then just have one pump and one radiator for the entire thing

Too slow, glue joke is above yours

[Bananasplit_00]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

Too slow, glue joke is above yours

Rip. Anyway I wonder if you could strap one on a XE so it has a chance to stay cool without a custom loop lol. The 500W sounds pretty nice

[MorganO]

smh theres no glueing shit together, you just increase the coldplate size and and adjust the fins accordingly.....

[tom_w141]

Just now, Bananasplit_00 said:

Rip. Anyway I wonder if you could strap one on a XE so it has a chance to stay cool without a custom loop lol. The 500W sounds pretty nice

500W does sound nice but X299's biggest thermal issue is the poor thermal transfer between die and IHS. Also having a cold plate larger than IHS won't cool anything.

[tom_w141]

3 minutes ago, KOMTechAndGaming said:

smh theres no glueing shit together, you just increase the coldplate size and and adjust the fins accordingly.....

shhh its for the memes

[Bananasplit_00]

3 minutes ago, KOMTechAndGaming said:

smh theres no glueing shit together, you just increase the coldplate size and and adjust the fins accordingly.....

The sct thing made me think otherwise, to me sounds like it's split in the middle so each die has its one AIO basically. 

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

500W does sound nice but X299's biggest thermal issue is the poor thermal transfer between die and IHS. Also having a cold plate larger than IHS won't cool anything.

Maybe you could make it touch the VRMs too?

[tom_w141]

Just now, Bananasplit_00 said:

The sct thing made me think otherwise, to me sounds like it's split in the middle so each die has its one AIO basically

Dual pumps would be rather pointless. It will be increased liquid volume + a single beefier pump. 500W on an AIO is mighty impressive though  

[Bananasplit_00]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

Dual pumps would be rather pointless. It will be increased liquid volume + a single beefier pump. 500W on an AIO is mighty impressive though  

Yah there will be just one pump but the block might be split for so there are only fins over the dies to maybe save some cost

[Energycore]

56 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Dual pumps would be rather pointless. It will be increased liquid volume + a single beefier pump. 500W on an AIO is mighty impressive though  

at 500W on an AIO you can finally cool that vega GPU that you couldn't before!

[Misanthrope]

3 hours ago, tom_w141 said:

R&D, Salaries, Tooling, Sampling, Testing and Production cost hundreds of thousands. They will need to shift a lot of these. Which means they think TR will be a popular HEDT platform and worth the development cost.

I had similar thoughts: I honestly wasn't convinced until very recently that AMD even had a chance at taking this fight to intel for the HEDT. Sure now we can all say "Well brand loyalty, even for a high end customer, is not worth almost double the money" but back when they would have needed to start working on this AIO design it was still mostly a toss up.

 

Good for them though: AMD certainly needs partners that are ready to gamble a bit in them.

[TrigrH]

[raphidy]

Massive.

I wonder how the bigger coldplate affect temps. Might be only fews degrees, like 1-3C.

[ZackBarletto]

I wonder if this one would be able to work on other cpus, mounting, VRM cooling.

 

I kinda understand the whole "don't buy this thread ripper cooler unless you have a thread ripper" but i'm still curious if they had to make this exclusively for the TR or if it can be universal while still covering that massive surface.

 

And someone mentioned EPIC compatibility. That would be cool. WURF. lol

[ravenshrike]

11 minutes ago, raphidy said:

I wonder how the bigger coldplate affect temps. Might be only fews degrees, like 1-3C.

You do realize that GN couldn't OC TR on Asetek coolers right? Depending on how efficient the TR Ryzen chips are it might not drop temps much at stock, though I doubt it, but it'll seriously drop temps when attempting to OC.

[raphidy]

15 minutes ago, ravenshrike said:

You do realize that GN couldn't OC TR on Asetek coolers right? Depending on how efficient the TR Ryzen chips are it might not drop temps much at stock, though I doubt it, but it'll seriously drop temps when attempting to OC.

They did OC on the kraken x62.

[NumLock21]

With threadripper having 4 separate dies, it would be better to put 4 straight lines of tim directly on top of each, instead of a glob in the center. Glob in the center was because the die in those cpus, is located in the center, not for threadripper. 

[mariushm]

Threadripper has 2 functional dies, always diagonally placed.  The other two dies are just spacers, to prevent the IHS (the metal lid) from flexing or bending.

 

The dies are close to the center of the chip so basically you don't necessarily need the cooler to cover the whole surface of the processor (but it would be nice).

 

Steve from GamersNexus tested multiple ways of applying paste and determined that basically just dumping a blob of paste (in much bigger quantity than what you normally place on processors) is enough, because the cooler you put will spread the paste evenly. Next in line in terms of coverage was the "draw two lines over the area where the four dies would be" ... and the "place 5 tiny blobs of paste, one in center and one over each die" that AMD recommended actually resulted in the poorest results.

 

Was interesting that his 120mm water cooler (well... i think it was only 120mm) kept the cpu at ~ 60-64c above ambient and was the limiting thing when it came to cooling... but even at that temperature the CPU wasn't throttling its cores, was running just fine.

 

The four dies:

 

 

 

[dizmo]

Nice to see them come out with something so quickly, it'll be interesting to see how it performs.

I wonder how Threadripper will do in gaming...

6 hours ago, tom_w141 said:

R&D, Salaries, Tooling, Sampling, Testing and Production cost hundreds of thousands. They will need to shift a lot of these. Which means they think TR will be a popular HEDT platform and worth the development cost.

Kind of, not really. When a company makes as much money as Enermax,

6 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Isn't the coverage & mount holes the same for the Epyc version of the socket? If so, that would explain a bit of it. There'll be a market for AIOs for people making smaller Epyc servers.

I highly doubt they'll produce AIOs for Epyc servers...

2 hours ago, ZackBarletto said:

I wonder if this one would be able to work on other cpus, mounting, VRM cooling.

-snip-

Unlikely, it'd interfere with other components on the motherboard.