What do you think about Intel coffee lake?

[Untitled]

It's coming soon. On 21 Aug. Will it faster than Ryzen? or it's just another joke from Intel?

 

What do you think?

[tom_w141]

2 minutes ago, Untitled said:

It's coming soon. On 21 Aug

Announced

 

2 minutes ago, Untitled said:

Will it faster than Ryzen?

Gaming yes, productivity it will be closer but not likely to lead.

 

2 minutes ago, Untitled said:

another joke from Intel?

Getting people to buy Kaby Lake was the joke

[Untitled]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_Lake

6 Cores, 12 Threads, Max 4.7GHz while having 95W TDP. according to Wiki

[Jurrunio]

Discussed many times already. Just find old posts and read them.

[Djole123]

I'm in the market for a new laptop, and seeing that we'll get quad cores on U series i5 and i7 makes me really happy.

[PCGuy_5960]

8 minutes ago, Untitled said:

Will it faster than Ryzen?

Depends. In single threaded tasks and in gaming, DEFINITELY. In multi threaded tasks probably not, but it will be very close, unless, it can clock higher than Kabylake or it has a 5%+ IPC increase (both are extremely unlikely)

[TacoSenpai]

My attitude?  Thats the one going to be 8th gen so 8xxx which means that 9th gen will be 9xxx.  Or in other words Intel's CPUs will be OVER 9000!?!

[dizmo]

 

4 minutes ago, Djole123 said:

I'm in the market for a new laptop, and seeing that we'll get quad cores on U series i5 and i7 makes me really happy.

I hope they don't. The U series should stay what it is; the utmost in efficiency. If they're able to improve efficiency and still have more cores, all the power to them. If not, the HQ series can get the higher core count chips.

Why would you want more cores on U?

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Depends. In single threaded tasks and in gaming, DEFINITELY. In multi threaded tasks probably not, but it will be very close, unless, it can clock higher than Kabylake or it has a 5%+ IPC increase (both are extremely unlikely)

Why do you think Intel would fall behind in multithread if the core counts are the same? Is Ryzen really that much better even when all else is equal?

[PCGuy_5960]

3 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Why do you think Intel would fall behind in multithread if the core counts are the same? Is Ryzen really that much better even when all else is equal?

I talking about 8700K vs R7

[Metal_Kitty]

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/intel-skylake-kaby-lake-coffee-lake-thread-coffee-lake-s-specs-out-page-554.2428363/page-554#post-39005848

[dizmo]

27 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

I talking about 8700K vs R7

Hoping they'll be the same price?

I think I'd still go for the i7. Though I don't do any kind of content creation.

22 minutes ago, Metal_Kitty said:

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/intel-skylake-kaby-lake-coffee-lake-thread-coffee-lake-s-specs-out-page-554.2428363/page-554#post-39005848

Interesting. Kind of sad that the 8700 takes such a massive hit mhz wise. I was hoping it'd at least be on par with the 6700.

I wonder how that'll affect it's gaming performance.

[TheCherryKing]

Kaby Lake and Coffee Lake are a joke! Everything Intel has done this year is a train wreck! Coffee Lake is a superior architecture compared to AMD Ryzen but the pricing will be insane! 

[facesmacker3]

On 8/8/2017 at 11:27 AM, TheCherryKing said:

Kaby Lake and Coffee Lake are a joke! Everything Intel has done this year is a train wreck! Coffee Lake is a superior architecture compared to AMD Ryzen but the pricing will be insane! 

I believe that the pricing will be reasonable and more comparable to the competition. We already saw how Ryzen took a lot of market share away from Intel, so they would not want that process to continue on much longer.

[Metal_Kitty]

 

On 8/10/2017 at 3:21 AM, facesmacker3 said:

I believe that the pricing will be reasonable and more comparable to the competition. We already saw how Ryzen took a lot of market share away from Intel, so they would not want that process to continue on much longer.

Perhaps thats the mistake that Intel are going to make though, maybe they should take a break temporarily and re-assess what they have and what they are going to do and what the competition has!  then come back at the market with something in 6 months when they have a product and Skip the next iteration of CPU's while they ask the consumers what they are in need of for their chips, and then go from there. 

 

[atavax]

i have doubts on how reasonable the prices will be and i have doubts over the longevity of the platform that coffeelake will be on. I am a PC gaming enthusiast with a 2600k and a 1080ti and i don't think they'll be able to justify me upgrading my CPU. If there is a 6 core part like is rumored, i think it will be very expensive and offer no real gaming benefits. This generation, while developers have gotten better at creating higher graphic settings for PC compared to console, CPU usage is probably gimped by having to run well on console CPUs. I doubt I should upgrade my CPU before next gen consoles are released.

[Noirgheos]

2 hours ago, atavax said:

i have doubts on how reasonable the prices will be and i have doubts over the longevity of the platform that coffeelake will be on. I am a PC gaming enthusiast with a 2600k and a 1080ti and i don't think they'll be able to justify me upgrading my CPU. If there is a 6 core part like is rumored, i think it will be very expensive and offer no real gaming benefits. This generation, while developers have gotten better at creating higher graphic settings for PC compared to console, CPU usage is probably gimped by having to run well on console CPUs. I doubt I should upgrade my CPU before next gen consoles are released.

All you have to do is take a look at a recent 7900X review to know that's not true. It pulls ahead of the 7700K in most games, and it doesn't have a clockspeed advantage either. 

 

Intel won't suddenly price mainstream models at HEDT. It makes no sense for a new generation and release. The 8700K will likely be $350 USD, like every other mainstream i7 before it.

[Princess Luna]

Coffee Lake is what Kaby Lake should've already been imo.

[Noirgheos]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

Coffee Lake is what Kaby Lake should've already been imo.

No doubt, but now that Intel has a fire under their ass, they're ready to make some form of advancement.

[Princess Luna]

On 8/8/2017 at 3:26 PM, dizmo said:

Interesting. Kind of sad that the 8700 takes such a massive hit mhz wise. I was hoping it'd at least be on par with the 6700.

I wonder how that'll affect it's gaming performance.

Exactly! The reason why I'll go with the 8700k instead of going locked i7 as always, that base clock is a joke

[done12many2]

On 8/8/2017 at 1:44 PM, tom_w141 said:

Getting people to buy Kaby Lake was the joke

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Coffee Lake is what Kaby Lake should've already been imo.

 

6 cores weren't ready last year when Kaby Lake released.

 

Intel gave it to us and we've been using it since.  

 

Not sure that they should have delayed it to meet your expectations.  

[done12many2]

On 8/8/2017 at 2:27 PM, TheCherryKing said:

Kaby Lake and Coffee Lake are a joke! Everything Intel has done this year is a train wreck! Coffee Lake is a superior architecture compared to AMD Ryzen but the pricing will be insane! 

 

If the pricing of Kaby Lake is what you consider "insane" you've got a lot bigger surprises in life awaiting you. 

 

Agreed that they are higher, but to exaggerate things by calling something a joke based on what you call insane prices is just sensationalizing to make a point.  The best tech always has and always will cost you substantially more than the next closest thing.  

[Princess Luna]

5 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

6 cores weren't ready last year when Kaby Lake released.

Intel gave it to us and we've been using it since.  

Not sure that they should have delayed it to meet your expectations.  

Get down your horse a bit, personal opinion has nothing to do with qq'ing about "expectations", Just because I feel Intel could've just jumped from Skylake straight to Coffee Lake it doesn't change one bit reality, nobody here in sane mind would expect that just their feelings would change a multi-billionaire market.

[done12many2]

8 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

6 cores weren't ready last year when Kaby Lake released.

 

Intel gave it to us and we've been using it since.  

 

Not sure that they should have delayed it to meet your expectations.  

 

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Get down your horse a bit, personal opinion has nothing to do with qq'ing about "expectations", Just because I feel Intel could've just jumped from Skylake straight to Coffee Lake it doesn't change one bit reality, nobody here in sane mind would expect that just their feelings would change a multi-billionaire market though.

 

Reread the first sentence in the post you quoted.  You can't release something that doesn't exist yet, therefore why wait until now to give us the tech?  They delivered Kaby Lake instead and will release Coffee Lake and its 6 cores when they are ready.

 

P.S.  I don't have any horses.  

 

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

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You're failing to understand me, I said Kaby Lake didn't ever had to be released just to fill a small gap of months, I never said that Coffee Lake should be out since February.

[done12many2]

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

You're failing to understand me, I said Kaby Lake didn't ever had to be released just to fill a small gap of months, I never said that Coffee Lake should be out since February.

 

I understand what you are saying, but it is you who is failing to understand what I'm saying.

 

I am saying that it is better to release the tech that is available then to delay it all so that you can include more with more features a year later.  

 

We have been enjoying the 7700k for the last year.  I would rather had that than to have them not have released it until this year.