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MSI GE72VR overheating? Undervolt GPU?

Hello!
I own a MSI GE72VR 6RF Apache Pro, bought it 01/10/2017 (January).
When playing games the CPU throttles all the time and temp is about 95 (Celsius) ish. GPU temp hitting 97 at the most. That's way to high right!?
By turning off turbo and setting core voltage offset to -0.120 i manage to keep the CPU temp at 87-90 while gaming. 

Is it impossible to undervolt a laptop 1060? Is there something i am missing? I don`t know what to do here. I even tried changing thermal paste, but it's the same.

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6 minutes ago, Noriblis said:

Hello!
I own a MSI GE72VR 6RF Apache Pro, bought it 01/10/2017 (January).
When playing games the CPU throttles all the time and temp is about 95 (Celsius) ish. GPU temp hitting 97 at the most. That's way to high right!?
By turning off turbo and setting core voltage offset to -0.120 i manage to keep the CPU temp at 87-90 while gaming. 

Is it impossible to undervolt a laptop 1060? Is there something i am missing? I don`t know what to do here. I even tried changing thermal paste, but it's the same.

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High temperatures are expected with a laptop, but that seems unnecessarily high. Have you tried to contact MSI at all? It's worth a try but I haven't had very good experiences with MSI support.

 

 
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3 minutes ago, DiscoDuck101 said:

High temperatures are expected with a laptop, but that seems unnecessarily high. Have you tried to contact MSI at all? It's worth a try but I haven't had very good experiences with MSI support.

 

 

Yes i contacted them, and here is the reply:

Hello My name,

Yes,it is,but it is a little bit high.
Normally the thermal grease needs to be changed every half a year.

Best Regards,
MSI Notebook Technical Application Department.

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Just now, Noriblis said:

Yes i contacted them, and here is the reply:

Hello My name,

Yes,it is,but it is a little bit high.
Normally the thermal grease needs to be changed every half a year.

Best Regards,
MSI Notebook Technical Application Department.

Yep, just as useless with you as they were with me....

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There unfortunately is no way to undervolt Pascal GPUs :/. You could try underclocking it if you want.

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14 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

There unfortunately is no way to undervolt Pascal GPUs :/. You could try underclocking it if you want.

Yes sure, would that lower the temps? 

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2 minutes ago, Noriblis said:

Yes sure, would that lower the temps? 

It probably would somewhat

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2 hours ago, DocSwag said:

There unfortunately is no way to undervolt Pascal GPUs :/. You could try underclocking it if you want.

Make a custom voltage to frequency graph

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18 hours ago, ZM Fong said:

Make a custom voltage to frequency graph

I have  no idea what`s safe to adjust. I have MSI afterburner. Do you know?

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28 minutes ago, Noriblis said:

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Firstly, it shouldn't be running that hot. Clean out the fans, repaste it something good like gelid gc extreme. 

 

Use throttlestop to undervolt the CPU. There is a guide. Google for it. 

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13 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

Firstly, it shouldn't be running that hot. Clean out the fans, repaste it something good like gelid gc extreme. 

 

Use throttlestop to undervolt the CPU. There is a guide. Google for it. 

I did all of those tings, as i said in my original post. 

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1 hour ago, Noriblis said:

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What thermal paste did you use? Also, don't turn off turbo. Can't test for consistency. 

 

You can reinstall the computer. Did you get rid of all the bloatware on MSI? 

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28 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

What thermal paste did you use? Also, don't turn off turbo. Can't test for consistency. 

 

You can reinstall the computer. Did you get rid of all the bloatware on MSI? 

Arctic MX-2 thermal paste. If i leave turbo on it's constant thermal throttling at 95ºC when gaming (Even when undervolted).
I uninstalled everything i don't use, there is nothing demanding running in the background. :(

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5 hours ago, Noriblis said:

I uninstalled everything i don't use, there is nothing demanding running in the background. :(

That doesn't always remove everything. I would try 1 last time to reinstall everthing.

 

Before you do that, can you run a benchmark like unigine heaven and post the hwinfo stats side by side. make sure it shows the PER CORE cpu temps + gpu temps. you can make the hwinfo tool show two panels. 

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8 hours ago, Pendragon said:

That doesn't always remove everything. I would try 1 last time to reinstall everthing.

 

Before you do that, can you run a benchmark like unigine heaven and post the hwinfo stats side by side. make sure it shows the PER CORE cpu temps + gpu temps. you can make the hwinfo tool show two panels. 

 

When running heaven the gpu hit 95C.
Let me know if i did something wrong.

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2 hours ago, Noriblis said:

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Run it in sensor mode. 

 

But from your description just sounds like garbage cooling tolerance. Most likely your solution would be to RMA it. 

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Here is an update.
Not sure how to feel about this.
 

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16 hours ago, Noriblis said:

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Its bullshit. 

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