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Motherboards for Kabylake-X

When Intel has launched their X299 platform, it had received a warm welcome of head scratching and face palms. The platform, was the very first to mix mainstream processors along with the enthusiast. On the mainstream, there was the core i5 7640X and Core i7 7740x. Both of them are exactly the same as their socket 1151 skus, with a few minor difference like clock speed and TDP, but the number of cpu lanes is still stuck at 16 PCIe 3.0 and dual channel ram. This lead to having a board, where half of the ram slots not working, and forced some of the features on the board to disabled, due to lack of cpu lanes. Because of this, Gigabyte and MSI have come with a board that's specifically made only for Kabylake-X. Gigabyte revealed their ATX Aorus, while MSI went with a more simple microATX. The board looks just like the mainstream 1151, except for the huge 2066 socket, and should probably come at a lower cost, compared to the full X299 boards.

With 1151, with 300 series chipset to support hexacore processors, not sure where these kabylake-x board stands, since they don't allow the upgrade path, to the 6 core skylake-x.

 

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That Gigabyte board looks decent. Any RGB on the MSI one?

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My question is could you run one of the higher core count chips but only have dual channel memory.

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These boards probably would support the higher SKX SKU's but run them with a reduced featureset.  I guess fine if you want more cores but no quad channel or PCIe advantages.

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2 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

WHY, so you don't even have a upgrade path.

OC potential  AFAIK .

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Just now, Dylanc1500 said:

My question is could you run one of the higher core count chips but only have dual channel memory.

Yep

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1 minute ago, Dylanc1500 said:

My question is could you run one of the higher core count chips but only have dual channel memory.

No, they do not support the higher core count Skylake-X.

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I mean really? Why do these exist? Why does KabyLake X exist? You're just making a motherboard for a CPU that's also on LGA1151! Seriously! Hell, even less of that because of the lack of an iGPU! What? Why? It offers no advantage over anything on LGA1151, so what's the point of these existing?

 

My brain cannot handle the level of stupidity involved here. Who in their right mind is going to drop money on these boards or KBX CPUs in the first place? Seriously! Get a Z270 board if you really want Intel (but you're buying into a dying platform) or get Ryzen for the longevity of the AM4 platform for at least 4 years.

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2 minutes ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

I mean really? Why do these exist? Why does KabyLake X exist? You're just making a motherboard for a CPU that's also on LGA1151! Seriously! Hell, even less of that because of the lack of an iGPU! What? Why? It offers no advantage over anything on LGA1151, so what's the point of these existing?

 

My brain cannot handle the level of stupidity involved here. Who in their right mind is going to drop money on these boards or KBX CPUs in the first place? Seriously! Get a Z270 board if you really want Intel (but you're buying into a dying platform) or get Ryzen for the longevity of the AM4 platform for at least 4 years.

Agreed, these boards are even more useless than the 200 series, save for the potential for better OC'ing.  Without the ability to upgrade to HCC 2066 CPUs, there is virtually no point to this line of boards.

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2 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

No, they do not support the higher core count Skylake-X.

Citation needed.  I see no reason why these boards wouldn't support the higher core chips except through an arbitrary bios limit.

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1 minute ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Citation needed.  I see no reason why these boards wouldn't support the higher core chips except through an arbitrary bios limit.

It's in the source. It's the same reason why Asus X299 won't support kabylake-X and only Skylake-X.

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1 minute ago, NumLock21 said:

It's in the source.

A'ight.  Checked Gigabyte's CPU support list and holy fucking balls why the fuck would anyone buy this?  I could see it making sense as spending a little bit more to have an "insurance policy" option of going to SKX but with KBX only support you might as well buy Z270.

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1 minute ago, AnonymousGuy said:

A'ight.  Checked Gigabyte's CPU support list and holy fucking balls why the fuck would anyone buy this?  I could see it making sense as spending a little bit more to have an "insurance policy" option of going to SKX but with KBX only support you might as well buy Z270.

Both of them don't offer support for 6 cores, so both are dead platforms.

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1 minute ago, WereCat said:

Intel.... please...

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Except these boards aren't made by Intel bruh...

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Just now, AnonymousGuy said:

Except these boards aren't made by Intel bruh...

But the Kabylake-X i5 and i7 are. If not for those, these boards would not need to exist.

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6 minutes ago, WereCat said:

But the Kabylake-X i5 and i7 are. If not for those, these boards would not need to exist.

Intel makes dumb cpus, does not mean board makers, have to follow with stupid boards.

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Just now, NumLock21 said:

Intel makes dumb cpus, does not mean board makers, have to follow with stupid boards.

Well, that's true but we don't know if Intel is pushing on them because of the 7640X and 7740X are taking space is warehouses :D

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2 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Well, that's true but we don't know if Intel is pushing on them because of the 7640X and 7740X are taking space is warehouses :D

Well other board makers aren't making stupid boards just for kabylake-x. :D

This board does have potential, if it also support skylake-x, while having a similar price range to Z270.

 

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3 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

With 1151, with 300 series chipset to support hexacore processors, not sure where these kabylake-x board stands, since they don't allow the upgrade path, to the 6 core skylake-x

I keep trying to come up with a scenario in which a Kabylake-X only board makes any sort of sense, but just can't do it...  Even making it an ITX form factor makes no sense as you can still get that on Z270 and the whole KBL-X platform will probably die with the introduction of Coffee Lake and their 6-Core i7's and hyperthreaded 4-core i3's...  

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15 minutes ago, WereCat said:

But the Kabylake-X i5 and i7 are. If not for those, these boards would not need to exist.

KBX has some reasoning behind it since it allows an upgrade path to more cores way beyond CFL.

 

Having a motherboard take away this path away is what is like "what in the hell are you guys thinking".

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2 minutes ago, WMGroomAK said:

I keep trying to come up with a scenario in which a Kabylake-X only board makes any sort of sense, but just can't do it...  Even making it an ITX form factor makes no sense as you can still get that on Z270 and the whole KBL-X platform will probably die with the introduction of Coffee Lake and their 6-Core i7's and hyperthreaded 4-core i3's...  

Both of them are a dead platform, when coffee lake will have support for 6 cores. And the hyper threaded i3 is fake.

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5 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

Both of them are a dead platform, when coffee lake will have support for 6 cores. And the hyper threaded i3 is fake.

There currently is a 4 core w/ HT Coffeelake part sampling.  I believe it's mobile though by it's CFL-U designation, and it might never go on sale.

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