2017 iMac (Radeon 580) vs. Custom PC (+Monitor)

[The Sloth]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Sure it will get warm but it can keep itself well under the thermal limit of the chips inside. 

not sure if you are joking or not 

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Apparently it handles Battlefied (the new one) very well at 1440p (above 60fps) 

 

dx12 and Vulkan did wonders

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, JDE said:

But it's at 5K, not 1440P

Nothing can Game at 5K

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

Nothing can Game at 5K

1080ti can, with some settings turned down 

 

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Nothing can Game at 5K

Exactly.

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

1080ti can, with some settings turned down 

But a 1080Ti system can't fit a 5K display of this quality into its budget. 

 

Gaming is great but I would rather have an orgasm with my eyes every time I looked at anything on my computer vs having a more powerful GPU. 

 

Granted I only play games like World of Warships and Star Trek Online. 

[DrMacintosh]

6 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

not sure if you are joking or not 

Well do 5K iMacs shut down because they went past the thermal limit? No, so no im not joking. 

 

You seem to think Apple designs machines that run over their designed thermal limits. 

[The Sloth]

3 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

You seem to think Apple designs machines that run over their designed thermal limits. 

they do, that's why they thermal throttle to save themselves 

[DrMacintosh]

3 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

they do, that's why they thermal throttle to save themselves 

So are they going past their thermal limits or are they not? 

 

If the machine isn't going past its designed thermal limit I don't see the problem. 

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

So are they going past their thermal limits or aren't they? 

 

If the machine isn't going past its thermal limit I don't see the problem. 

thermal throttling is poor design choice 

[DrMacintosh]

10 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

thermal throttling is poor design choice 

No system is immune to it unless you water cool it, and even then it can still happen. 

 

Do you have something other than that?

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

Do you have something other than that?

not really, poor engineering in the sake of "thinness", making a good design is nice but sacrificing functionality order to achieve it is just dumb. 

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

No system is immune to it unless you water cool it, and even then it can still happen. 

 

or design it properly 

[TheGleaner]

And now we will get stuck in this loop...

[Mira Yurizaki]

1 minute ago, TheGleaner said:

And now we will get stuck in this loop...

Bring the popcorn. It's fun to watch this happen.

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, M.Yurizaki said:

Bring the popcorn. It's fun to watch this happen.

I have cheetos.

[DrMacintosh]

3 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

or design it properly 

Easy to say, unfortunately thick heavy computers don't get sales, and in the end thats all that actually matters. 

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

Easy to say, unfortunately thick heavy computers don't get sales, and in the end thats all that actually matters. 

it sucks, i am personally not a big fan of it. 

[The Sloth]

4 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

Bring the popcorn. It's fun to watch this happen.

[Megah3rtz]

I'm sorry did you just compare an imac with a $300 graphics card to a custom built $1000 graphics card and then call the imac a better deal? 

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, Megah3rtz said:

I'm sorry did you just compare an imac with a $300 graphics card to a custom built $1000 graphics card and then call the imac a better deal? 

Kinda missing the the whole part where the Mac is a computer with a 5K display. 

[TheGleaner]

And who knows in 2 years(just a guess if how long this system will be in place) we may look at Mac's 5k screen like we look at crt's, 8k could be affordable for everyone.

58 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Kinda missing the the whole part where the Mac is a computer with a 5K display. 

Doesn't dell make a 8k display?

 

Again a big if but, what if it does happen? What if it doesn't? 

[acls86]

Well, I'm using the new 2017 5k iMac with i5 and radeon pro 580. I'm just a casual gamer, but I know what I would get with a high end gaming pc. My last one was i7 7700k and 1080ti.

I just could not give up the 5k screen and whats more important, MacOS. If this matters to you, you have no alternatives.

 

For gaming I bought an external USB 3.1 SSD (Samsung t3), installed Windows 10 and there we go. I can play anything on high and ultra with a resolution of 1440p, the 5k screen scales superb with 1440p. Temperature in AAA games are around 85°C on CPU and GPU. Fan is not audible on desktop use, in games you can clearly hear the air (wushhh) but nothing like a low quality fan noise.

 

So much less cables!

[DrMacintosh]

7 hours ago, TheGleaner said:

we may look at Mac's 5k screen like we look at crt's, 8k could be affordable for everyone.

Yeah thats not happening. We have already hit the diminishing returns area of resolution. 

[Princess Luna]

9 hours ago, Bing Bing Bong said:

I refuse to downgrade screen quality after using iMac's for so many years, I just sold my 2015 5K iMac and ready to upgrade now.

I don't know mate I personally would prefer something like the Acer x34 any day over Apple's 5k retina.

[acls86]

10 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

I don't know mate I personally would prefer something like the Acer x34 any day over Apple's 5k retina.

If you need Gsync, ultrawide and over 60hz for sure! But you can't compare the screen quality. I had the x34, z35p and acer biggest one XR382CQK. The iMac screen is sooooo much better even if scaled down to 1440p in games, but as said only 27", 60hz and 16:9. No features, just screen quality.

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, acls86 said:

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Well it also weights how much more I prefer 21:9 so yeah... I know Apple's screen has amazing image quality but nothing that far from great high end IPS panels such as the x34... probably depends on the user preferences above all things as both products are great though different.