Apple hatred, Why is it, Honestly?

[joshpks1870]

Hello!

First post, and wanted to bring up something I have been wondering about ever since I began getting deeper into the PC ecosystem, and that is, Why are Apple hated so much as a company, and their products crucified even though despite the price they are reasonably good devices.

Personally, I went from a PS2 + Windows XP user, then migrated very very happily toward Xbox 360 + Mac OS 10.6 Snow Leopard and now have built my own PC and run Windows 8, and Hackintosh'ed OS 10.9 Mavericks, and use that PC for gaming as well as work when on OS X.

 

Please no major PC fanboyism, I have no bias towards either of them, I use both 50/50, but I do value the ecosystem Apple has created, I just use Windows 8 for more application support and gaming, until Steam OS comes around!

 

Cheers.

 

[My user image is my youtube image, and matches my name of which I picked a long time ago, I dont mean it to look so biased.]

[LOST TALE]

maybe you should do a poll about it.

 

Apple computer is still a PC

[Imabigmac]

Welcome! I think people dislike Apple because you cant play around with settings and is not as open. I have listened to many rants on why apple sucks and at the end of the rants it comes back to that. I like apple stuff still. 

[eightiethraptor]

i don't get it either, i think their products are beautifully made (that new mac pro made me drool a bit) but its probably the "hipster" image that makes it uncool for some reason, sure you can get more performance for cheaper especially if you build your own pc, but if you dont mind paying more then theres no reason to not get it when it can run windows alongside osx, because then you have that option if you ever have software on osx you wanna use.

your guess is as good as mine

[rashdanml]

They make decent products.

 

They suck balls as a company. Calling things innovation, while they didn't invent anything (except the iPod, perhaps). Then suing everyone and their dog about anything and everything. 

[MeltyMoon]

People hate how much they cost, how they can't play a lot of games, and the operating system can be a little confusing to navigate at first glance. Honestly I think most of them just kinda hopped on the 'mac sux lel' bandwagon. I don't use them, but people can purchase their own products. I won't ever recommend one for like gaming or something though, only because you limit your choices of games due to the operating system.

[zip2k4]

'think it had to do with them and lawsuits...

[Guest]

I personally prefer Apple products over the Windows / Android alternatives, but that's just me. I remember back in elementary school when, after 3 years of using Windows 98 PCs, my 4th grade teacher had one of the egg-shaped iMacs. It was like the holy grail. Ever since then, I've just preferred their ecosystem, and I don't mind the 'restrictions'- it just allows for a more consistent and usable experience.

 

Don't get me wrong, I game on a PC, but I much prefer OS X over Windows 8.1- although sometimes it is nice to use Snap and such.

 

I guess its because I have such an OCD when it comes to design, and Apple's products just speak to me in that sense. Everything just seems meticulously crafted.

 

Anyway, that's my two cents.

 

Noah

[Tea1337]

maybe you should do a poll about it.

 

Apple computer is still a PC

Yeah, ^ PC means Personal Computers, therefore mac's are PC's.

[TheSLSAMG]

Well, I am not sure I want to go into this.

 

1. Locked down OS.

2. Hasn't "innovated" since the original iPhone.

3. Steals others ideas, markets as own.

4. Makes the biggest case for cutting down on child labor while still doing it themselves.

5. Overpriced.

6. Underpowered.

7. Proprietary.

8. Other pointless arguments.

 

I myself am a fan of Apple's computers. That's about it. Android as a mobile OS is far superior in my eyes, though I personally use an iPhone 5 (don't mind it, but it's not my cup of tea and I think I want a Galaxy Note 3) I hackintoshed as well (Welcome to the club ) and I am loving it. I just need to get the USB Audio Card and I'm good. Also, maybe I can get the hard drive kit for my Mac Mini and it can be used then as an HTPC.

[Bluethulhu]

I personally don't hate Apple as a whole, what really gets me is their pricing. $1200 for a sub-par laptop with integrated graphics and an i3? No thank you. $3,000 for a desktop with a Radeon 5XXX series GPU and a LGA 1366 CPU? Nope. I actually really like most of Apple's products from the OS X Tiger era. I feel like most had a great value for what you got, now it's just through the roof. I also don't think that their phones are well-priced. $750 so I can have a fingerprint scanner when I could get a much better experience for less than half the cost (Nexus 5)?

[Warcony]

Some say the hatred is for selling overpriced products or because of the people who buy the products etc etc.  I will let you in on a little secret... The real reason is because Apple acts like a big jerk. To consumers and every business on the planet.

 

Thread closed from here on out.

[KrazyKap]

They make decent products.

 

They suck balls as a company. Calling things innovation, while they didn't invent anything (except the iPod, perhaps). Then suing everyone and their dog about anything and everything. 

 

Was just about to say that. They have a deceptive way of marketing everything and it is pretty dastardly, making everyone want their products because they're so amazing. I hate the manipulation, but I know it isn't just Apple.

[joshpks1870]

how they can't play a lot of games, and the operating system can be a little confusing to navigate at first glance. Honestly I think most of them just kinda hopped on the 'mac sux lel' bandwagon. 

Yeah I think that's probably most peoples issue, as gamers peoples main cry out is the fact they cant play games with the inability to view the possibility some people don't use computers just for gaming.

But yeah when first starting to use the OS X operating system it does look very foreign, but if you enable right-click in system preferences, and adjust to the 'lingo' like 'System Prefrences' instead of 'Control Panel' but I think its just a matter of relearning for a few days. 

Thanks for replying!

[Coombzy]

How many of these threads does there have to be...

[joshpks1870]

Yeah, ^ PC means Personal Computers, therefore mac's are PC's.

Yeah sorry, I'm usually pretty good at that stuff, but I meant in the context of Windows VS OS X.

[MeltyMoon]

Yeah I think that's probably most peoples issue, as gamers peoples main cry out is the fact they cant play games with the inability to view the possibility some people don't use computers just for gaming.

But yeah when first starting to use the OS X operating system it does look very foreign, but if you enable right-click in system preferences, and adjust to the 'lingo' like 'System Prefrences' instead of 'Control Panel' but I think its just a matter of relearning for a few days. 

Thanks for replying!

Oh jeez I totally forgot! Welcome to the forum!

[tp95112]

Owning a Ipod Nano and 2 ITouches that both seem wear out really fast. IE home buttone and lock button breaking

[Imabigmac]

How many of these threads does there have to be...

About the same number of $100 bills in Apples off shore accounts. 

[joshpks1870]

i don't get it either, i think their products are beautifully made (that new mac pro made me drool a bit)

Who Knows? Personally I use my Macbook over an Asus laptop because the Unibody is amazing to feel and the OS as I have become acustom to it is just prettier, I think.. I'm a sucker for beauty over function.

[LOST TALE]

Oh I just remebered why I dislike Apple with some hatred.

 

For putting patents on everything they find first, good thing they didn't breath before us or I couldn't afford a legal life.

[joshpks1870]

Don't get me wrong, I game on a PC, but I much prefer OS X over Windows 8.1- although sometimes it is nice to use Snap and such.

I guess its because I have such an OCD when it comes to design, and Apple's products just speak to me in that sense. Everything just seems meticulously crafted.

Fair enough! Thats my view too, I love the beauty, and the OS's prettyness, is just a bonus. But I use Windows 8 for gaming, and video trans/encoding.

[Lil Chillbil]

I Love apple, still do. And will get a mac someday once I get tired of gaming/grow up and end up buying a xbox one. But it will always be pc gaming master race

 

 

Lil Chillbil's powermac editing setup. Summer 2011 aka the best summer of my life 

[Grape Guild]

I cringe when news headlines praise Apple for being original and innovative.  Yes they are a good company, and yes, I do enjoy the iphone (that has stayed the same for like 4 years).  But they market the same thing each year, with maybe one new feature and one new cliche slogan.  They mastered the phone OS, but didn't care to change it or make it better.  

           Contrary to the first complaint, the one thing that Apple does perfectly is build quality.  They continue to impress me with their clean edges and sleek form factor.  But, like the OS's, my opinion is tainted by other things.  While the OS's issue was repetitiveness, the build quality issue is the constant articles I come across about child labor and poor factory conditions in Asia, where much of the products are produced.  Oh yea, and the whole stealing ideas debate too.  And the stupid, high budget movie praising Steve Jobs.

[MrImnotMLG]

Please no major PC fanboyism

 

...PC means Personal Computer. By the definition of PCs, Macs are PCs. (ironic since the place-holder gif is about them being seperate until I make one from a bit from the last WAN show.)