What CPU should i get?

[Twinx12]

im wanting to upgrade my PC and give my old parts as a gift, i currently have i7 4790 with common cooling system, i wanted to go for something more leaning towards ryzen 1800x, ryzen 1700x or i7 7700k, i7 6800k, but i have been told alot of good and bad for both, ( aswell i wanted a water cooling system, but am compleatly lost on what to get, i want a custom loop, but im scared it will leak and kill my baby ) and am unsure on what to get, work load will be lots of gaming everyday, some video editing, and im getting into graphics design in college so i want to have top grade equipment for when i need it, any help will be greatly appreciated!! thankyou 

[Swealteek]

4 minutes ago, Twinx12 said:

im wanting to upgrade my PC and give my old parts as a gift, i currently have i7 4790 with common cooling system, i wanted to go for something more leaning towards ryzen 1800x, ryzen 1700x or i7 7700k, i7 6800k, but i have been told alot of good and bad for both, ( aswell i wanted a water cooling system, but am compleatly lost on what to get, i want a custom loop, but im scared it will leak and kill my baby ) and am unsure on what to get, work load will be lots of gaming everyday, some video editing, and im getting into graphics design in college so i want to have top grade equipment for when i need it, any help will be greatly appreciated!! thankyou

Ryzen 1800X hands down. Don't worry do your research and you wil be fine. 

[chris76816]

Ryzen 7 1700 can be overclocked to match the 1800x. They are the same CPU except the 1800x is just clocked higher.

[Twinx12]

im just alittle iffy going to AMD again, i have been blue for so long, and for a good reason

[Twinx12]

also the hefty 620$ price range on the 1800x compaired to say the 6800k 450$ or 7700k for 500$

[Twinx12]

will i need the 1800x for all my school and future proof for gaming and program's? 

[Phate.exe]

If you're down with 6 cores 12 threads rather than 8, I highly recommend the 1600X.  Like half the price of the 1800X.  Only $20 more than the 1600, but has a 3.6GHz base clock, 4GHz turbo, and should have better binning.

[Atra1n2]

R7-1700 is also a good overclockable 8-core 16-thread CPU.

[DocSwag]

Get a 1700 and overclock it, it overclocks as well as the 1800x and you get an rgb stock cooler and save $200 almost.

9 minutes ago, Swealteek said:

Ryzen 1800X hands down. Don't worry do your research and you wil be fine. 

 

4 minutes ago, Twinx12 said:

also the hefty 620$ price range on the 1800x compaired to say the 6800k 450$ or 7700k for 500$

As above, no reason for 1800x

[Max_Settings]

12 minutes ago, Twinx12 said:

also the hefty 620$ price range on the 1800x compaired to say the 6800k 450$ or 7700k for 500$

The 6800K is now outdated on an old socket, don't buy that

[Twinx12]

so its more narrowed down to 1700x vs 7700k

[Twinx12]

i heared about a i7 7740x series aswell

 

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, Twinx12 said:

so its more narrowed down to 1700x vs 7700k

You need to quote people.

 

 

1700X.

1 minute ago, Twinx12 said:

i heared about a i7 7740x series aswell

 

Rebrand of 7700K that's $100 more expensive and motherboards more expensive.

[Twinx12]

im not really to sure who to quote for that one, more of just a new question, but il start quoting people

[Twinx12]

21 minutes ago, chris76816 said:

Ryzen 7 1700 can be overclocked to match the 1800x. They are the same CPU except the 1800x is just clocked higher.

whats the main differences between the 7700 and 1700

[Daniel Z.]

23 minutes ago, Phate.exe said:

If you're down with 6 cores 12 threads rather than 8, I highly recommend the 1600X.  Like half the price of the 1800X.  Only $20 more than the 1600, but has a 3.6GHz base clock, 4GHz turbo, and should have better binning.

no 1600 and 1700 are the best bang 4 buck

[Daniel Z.]

5 minutes ago, Twinx12 said:

whats the main differences between the 7700 and 1700

7700 has better single core and gaming, 1700 has better almost everything else.

[LienusLateTips]

36 minutes ago, Twinx12 said:

whats the main differences between the 7700 and 1700

7700 has better gaming, 1700 has better EVERYTHING else. It blows the 7700 out of water in multithreaded tasks like streaming and rendering.

[bdubbs]

26 minutes ago, JDE said:

7700 has better gaming, 1700 has better EVERYTHING else. It blows the 7700 out of water in multithreaded tasks like streaming and rendering.

This is how i think of it. If you get 125 FPS @1080 in a game on the 1700 and 135 FPS on the 7700 is that the most important thing to you. If you say yes get the 7700 if you say no you will get more general performance out of the 1700 and solid gaming performance. 

[DrMikeNZ]

1 hour ago, Twinx12 said:

i heared about a i7 7740x series aswell

Don't get that processor, it is an overpriced 7700K with the iGPU (quicksync) disabled, then you will have to pay a premium for motherboard features you cannot use.

 

1 hour ago, Twinx12 said:

whats the main differences between the 7700 and 1700

The 7700 (non-K) is not overclockable, a 4C8T processor. The R7 1700 is an overclockable 8C16T processor, and can be overclocked to almost the same performance as an 1800X. The R7 1700X and 1800X are just factory overclocked 1700's.

 

I strongly recommend either the R5 1600 or R7 1700.

[Phate.exe]

3 hours ago, Daniel Z. said:

no 1600 and 1700 are the best bang 4 buck

The 1600X is only $20 more than the 1600 right now, has better binning and is way faster out of the box (to the point I haven't bothered overclocking mine).  1-2 threads will boost to 4GHz.

[DrMikeNZ]

6 minutes ago, Phate.exe said:

The 1600X is only $20 more than the 1600 right now, has better binning and is way faster out of the box (to the point I haven't bothered overclocking mine).  1-2 threads will boost to 4GHz.

The 1600X is 15% more expensive than the 1600 where I live, the overclocked performance is not worth it as the binning of Ryzen is not significant. The 1600X is a great CPU, but not as good bang-for-buck as the 1600 when both are overclocked.

Also, the 1600 comes with a hunk of metal to put into your trophy cabinet.

[Guest]

One thing i noticed after running ryzen 1700 for about 3 months now compared to my 4790K at 4.7Ghz.

 

One when ryzen is slower its a little bit slower

Two when Ryzen is faster its a LOT faster then the 4790K i mean to the point where the 4790K will limit my streams. 

3 my video encodes are basically twice as fast if not more

 

Gaming in modern titles actually feels better on older titles its slower and i mean xbox 360 days and before still faster then sandy-ivy IPC. 

 

[Fardin]

if gaming is your major concern with some rendering & graphics work then i7 7700k is what you should go for.

don't get me wrong ryzen is beast for multithreaded works & rendering but that's not ur first priority..7700k can do multithreaded work too but gaming would be top notch..cause in gaming the higher clock speed benefits better beside  u can overclock 7700k to 5ghz with good cooling system.But if I were you I would hold on a bit til intel's coffee lake is out..that is probably gonna be a heck of a deal since i5 even rumoured to have 6 cores

 

[Twinx12]

13 hours ago, Fardin said:

if gaming is your major concern with some rendering & graphics work then i7 7700k is what you should go for.

don't get me wrong ryzen is beast for multithreaded works & rendering but that's not ur first priority..7700k can do multithreaded work too but gaming would be top notch..cause in gaming the higher clock speed benefits better beside  u can overclock 7700k to 5ghz with good cooling system.But if I were you I would hold on a bit til intel's coffee lake is out..that is probably gonna be a heck of a deal since i5 even rumoured to have 6 cores

 

when does coffee lake come out?  i need to upgrade before Christmas of this year, id defiantly wait for an intels fight back to ryzen