USB 3.1 gen 2 on motherboards ?

[Steve_MW]

Well USB 3.1 GEN 2 is a "thing" now, which is cool.

So my mother board comes with a USB 3.1 Gen 2 front panel headers. 

The problem is that it has this weird port to which i can't seem to find a connector to.

 

But most of all, is this backwards compatible with USB 3.0 ? 

I ask because my Case only has USB 3.0 and USB 2.0 in its front panel. 

 

One last question, if at all they were to be backward compatible, would that somehow reduce its performance ? Because this is rated  to have about 10 GB/s transfer rate. 

 

[PeachyUwUSenpai]

this connector if so its usb c

[Steve_MW]

6 minutes ago, Alaradia said:

that connector if so its usb c

 

 

I didn't get you. Care to explain ?

[reapzzer]

It's all cool and dandy but there aren't any cases on the market that use this connector and have front panel USB 3.1 (type A or type C). For now it's basically futureproofing your motherboard...

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, Steve_MW said:

I didn't get you. Care to explain ?

He's referring the the rear I/O. And you mobo should have normal USB 3.0 and 2.0 headers. 

[MrDrWho13]

11 minutes ago, Steve_MW said:

Well USB 3.1 GEN 2 is a "thing" now, which is cool.

So my mother board comes with a USB 3.1 Gen 2 front panel headers. 

The problem is that it has this weird port to which i can't seem to find a connector to.

 

But most of all, is this backwards compatible with USB 3.0 ? 

I ask because my Case only has USB 3.0 and USB 2.0 in its front panel. 

 

One last question, if at all they were to be backward compatible, would that somehow reduce its performance ? Because this is rated  to have about 10 GB/s transfer rate. 

 

Picture of the headers or at least a motherboard model number so we can look it up?

 

If you can plug the 3.0 (3.1 gen 1) front panel into the 3.1 header on the motherboard then it should just work at USB 3.0 speeds.

[Steve_MW]

3 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

He's referring the the rear I/O. And you mobo should have normal USB 3.0 and 2.0 headers. 

That's true, it is available.

I was just wondering if i could use this "10 GB/s" transfer rate that Gen 2 is  said to have. 

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, Steve_MW said:

That's true, it is available.

I was just wondering if i could use this "10 GB/s" transfer rate its said to have. 

I doubt it. It may be backwards compatible, but it'll run at USB 3.0 speed, just like USB 2.0 runs at 2.0 speed no matter what header it's on. 

[Steve_MW]

3 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

I doubt it. It may be backwards compatible, but it'll run at USB 3.0 speed, just like USB 2.0 runs at 2.0 speed no matter what header it's on. 

So it looks like i am left with no choice but to buy a 3.1 port in order to access the complete speed ?

[Steve_MW]

8 minutes ago, MrDrWho13 said:

Picture of the headers or at least a motherboard model number so we can look it up?

 

If you can plug the 3.0 (3.1 gen 1) front panel into the 3.1 header on the motherboard then it should just work at USB 3.0 speeds.

Alright, i've added a few pictures to clarify.

[MrDrWho13]

1 minute ago, Steve_MW said:

So it looks like i am left with no choice but to buy a 3.1 port in order to access the complete speed ?

Yep, the speeds are always that of the lowest common denominator. There may be a 3.1 gen 2 port on the motherboard I/O though.

[Steve_MW]

Just now, MrDrWho13 said:

Yep, the speeds are always that of the lowest common denominator. There may be a 3.1 gen 2 port on the motherboard I/O though.

But what about the connectors, any idea where i can find the connectors ?

[MrDrWho13]

3 minutes ago, Steve_MW said:

But what about the connectors, any idea where i can find the connectors ?

I've not seen them before, but they should be on any front panel or internal USB 3.1 gen 2 devices. So if you want a front panel port you'll need something that can go on the front panel of your PC.

Do you want Type A or Type C on the front?

Do you have any 3.5 (floppy drive size) or 5.25 inch (DVD drive size) slots on the front of your PC?

Why do you need USB 3.1 gen 2 speeds?

[Steve_MW]

2 minutes ago, MrDrWho13 said:

I've not seen them before, but they should be on any front panel or internal USB 3.1 gen 2 devices. So if you want a front panel port you'll need something that can go on the front panel of your PC.

Do you want Type A or Type C on the front?

Do you have any 3.5 (floppy drive size) or 5.25 inch (DVD drive size) slots on the front of your PC?

Why do you need USB 3.1 gen 2 speeds?

1. Type A is what i am looking for.

2. Yes I've got both 3.5 and 5.25 in front.

3. Who wouldn't want higher speeds ? Plus also i'm kinda curious. 

[MrDrWho13]

2 minutes ago, Steve_MW said:

1. Type A is what i am looking for.

2. Yes I've got both 3.5 and 5.25 in front.

3. Who wouldn't want higher speeds ? Plus also i'm kinda curious. 

I'm just having a look and there isn't much on offer. You could go with something like this: https://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboard-Accessory/USB-31-FRONT-PANEL/ but it seems to use SATA Express to connect to the motherboard instead for some reason.

It looks like that might be the only one, but apparently MSI and PHANTEKS are releasing similar products which use that header.

 

Maybe it's best to wait a few months to see if something else comes out.

 

PS: Thanks for giving such prompt and concise info.  

[Steve_MW]

1 minute ago, MrDrWho13 said:

I'm just having a look and there isn't much on offer. You could go with something like this: https://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboard-Accessory/USB-31-FRONT-PANEL/ but it seems to use SATA Express to connect to the motherboard instead for some reason.

It looks like that might be the only one, but apparently MSI and PHANTEKS are releasing similar products which use that header.

 

Maybe it's best to wait a few months to see if something else comes out.

 

PS: Thanks for giving such prompt and concise info.  

Well that definitely helps, thank you. 

[Salacious B Crum]

19 minutes ago, Steve_MW said:

But what about the connectors, any idea where i can find the connectors ?

I have the asus x370 crosshair hero vi with that connector and have yet to find anything to plug into it!

[Steve_MW]

Just now, mrbilky said:

I have the asus x370 crosshair hero vi with that connector and have yet to find anything to plug into it!

Exactly, its no where to be found.

But if it is backwards compatible, we could possibly use it with a USB 3.0 but i have no info on that either. 

[Salacious B Crum]

1 minute ago, Steve_MW said:

Exactly, its no where to be found.

But if it is backwards compatible, we could possibly use it with a USB 3.0 but i have no info on that either. 

Yep I have the Cooler Master maker case 5t with 4 3.0 ports on front but the board only has 1 header for 3.0 leaving 2 ports dead on my case I was hoping to find a solution with the 3.1 gen 2 but to no avail!

[Steve_MW]

1 minute ago, mrbilky said:

Yep I have the Cooler Master maker case 5t with 4 3.0 ports on front but the board only has 1 header for 3.0 leaving 2 ports dead on my case I was hoping to find a solution with the 3.1 gen 2 but to no avail!

Well that's a bummer. But one good news tho, Gen 2 is new and on the rising, so it looks like we will have a solution to that soon.

[Salacious B Crum]

Just now, Steve_MW said:

Well that's a bummer. But one good news tho, Gen 2 is new and on the rising, so it looks like we will have a solution to that soon.

I hope so kinda disappointing even my msi x370 pro carbon has 2 usb 3.1 gen 1 headers on it and the fricken case that's in doesn't have 4 i/o on the front, go figure I'll surely post when I find alternative solutions when they arise.

[PeachyUwUSenpai]

5 hours ago, Steve_MW said:

I didn't get you. Care to explain ?

that was posted before you had pictures thought you were confused about usb c

[Steve_MW]

9 hours ago, Alaradia said:

that was posted before you had pictures thought you were confused about usb c

Oh yeah, i was actually looking for Type-A.

[doits]

The only standalone one I know about is from lian-li:  http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pw-ic2dah85/

[Salacious B Crum]

11 hours ago, doits said:

The only standalone one I know about is from lian-li:  http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pw-ic2dah85/

Wow you found the holy grail  that doesn't have much to go on I mean it looks like its more of a mod I guess you would need a 51/4 blank to install it in? I wonder what the back of it looks like since it does have 2 3.0 ports maybe I could disconnect them and switch them over to my 2 dead ports on my case? Don't know looks like I'll wait but at least its a proof of concept for others to follow thanks for that info!