AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Overclocking

[Fred Flintstone]

I'm wondering if a 1600 can be pushed to 3.9/4.0GHz with its stock cooler and this motherboard: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-AX370-Gaming-K5-rev-10#kf.
I looked on YouTube but I didn't find anything about it.

[iBabySlapper]

1 minute ago, Fred Flintstone said:

I'm wondering if a 1600 can be pushed to 3.9/4.0GHz with its stock cooler and this motherboard: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-AX370-Gaming-K5-rev-10#kf.
I looked on YouTube but I didn't find anything about it.

It might get a bit warm with the stock cooler, but it shouldn't be instant death even so, and your motherboard should be able to handle it.

Beware though that some 1600s can only go about 3.8-3.9 without voltages over 1.4v, so if you're not particularly lucky you might be only able to hit 3.8-3.85.

[jjohnthedon1]

1.42 is the average for 4ghz on a 1600 and 1700

 

but I also need llc 

[Fred Flintstone]

2 minutes ago, ibabyslapper said:

some 1600s can only go about 3.8-3.9 without voltages over 1.4v, so if you're not particularly lucky you might be only able to hit 3.8-3.85.

 

1 minute ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

1.42 is the average for 4ghz on a 1600 and 1700

but I also need llc 

Will its stock cooler be able to handle that voltage? Also, what's LLC?

[jjohnthedon1]

Line load calabration

id u do t no what that is or if a stock cooler could handle that voltage I don't think I should be doing it, go for 3.7 at 1.3  that will be fine 

[3rrant]

1 minute ago, Fred Flintstone said:

 

Will its stock cooler be able to handle that voltage? Also, what's LLC?

Load Line Calibration, it's a feature of all am4 bios. Just set it to Level 1 instead of auto.

 

Yes it CAN handle it, no it WON'T be the best choice. Stick to 3,7-3,8Ghz on the stock cooler at 1,375-1,4V max for cores for keeping good thermals.

[jjohnthedon1]

iPhone = special needs grammar 

[iBabySlapper]

Just now, Fred Flintstone said:

 

Will its stock cooler be able to handle that voltage? Also, what's LLC?

LLC is load line calibration, it basically helps keep cpu voltage constant.

And the stock cooler probably could handle an OC, but I'd look into getting a cheaper aftermarket cooler like a Hyper212 Evo.

[Fred Flintstone]

1 minute ago, ibabyslapper said:

I'd look into getting a cheaper aftermarket cooler like a Hyper212 Evo.

Well, is a Gammaxx 400 enough for that task? ... It's the cheapest AM4 compatible I could find (that also looks decent).

[johndms]

I have the Ryzen 5 1600 and was comfortable overclocking to 3.8 at 1.35625v on the stock cooler.  Package temps reached about 73 during Aida64 stress testing and a bit higher with Prime95.  I tried 3.9GHz at 1.4125v, but the temps reached into the low 80s, which worried me.  But regardless of how comfortable I was with 3.8, I still added a Noctua AM4 cooler which dropped the temps from 73 to 60.  My Current Setup

 

I've successfully hit 3.95GHz at 1.45v with Noctua, but was unable to hit 4GHz.  Not really interested in pushing beyond 1.45v to attempt it.

[Fred Flintstone]

4 minutes ago, johndms said:

I have the Ryzen 5 1600 and was comfortable overclocking to 3.8 at 1.35625v on the stock cooler.  Package temps reached about 73 during Aida64 stress testing and a bit higher with Prime95.  I tried 3.9GHz at 1.4125v, but the temps reached into the low 80s, which worried me.  But regardless of how comfortable I was with 3.8, I still added a Noctua AM4 cooler which dropped the temps from 73 to 60.

What are the highest temps until it throttles? I mean, when does it start to throttle?

[iBabySlapper]

4 minutes ago, Fred Flintstone said:

Well, is a Gammaxx 400 enough for that task? ... It's the cheapest AM4 compatible I could find (that also looks decent).

Yeah, the Gammaxx 400 seems to be very similar to the hyper212 in terms of heatpipe count and heatsink size.

Note that LLC isn't essential to a stable OC, and that it's probably only found on X370 boards.

[johndms]

For what it's worth, I've chosen to stay at 3.8 at 1.35v as I haven't seen enough improvement in my testing and Overwatch gameplay to warrant going higher.

(The multiple scores at each overclock are with different ram frequencies (2933vs3200) and timings)

[johndms]

3 minutes ago, Fred Flintstone said:

What are the highest temps until it throttles? I mean, when does it start to throttle?

I never pushed it that far.  I can't afford it if something fries lol

[Austin8249]

I hit 3.9 on my stock cooler with a .13125 offset, 1.384V. 1,286 cb score

I hit 4.025 on my h110i with the same voltage offset, but in testing, the voltage got up to around 1.39ish
the motherboard is the Prime B350plus

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1960256

unfortunately, I updated to the 0805 bios and I'm having trouble getting my chip back up to 4ghz stable, but I got my memory up to 3066 from my previous 2933

[Fred Flintstone]

1 minute ago, Austin8249 said:

I hit 3.9 on my stock cooler with a .13125 offset, 1.384V. 1,286 cb score

I hit 4.25 on my h110i with the same voltage offset, but in testing, the voltage got up to around 1.39ish

4.25GHz? Is that even possible with these CPUs? Lol

[Austin8249]

Just now, Fred Flintstone said:

4.25GHz? Is that even possible with these CPUs? Lol

sorry, i meant 4.025

[Fred Flintstone]

Just now, Austin8249 said:

sorry, i meant 4.025

Oh, that seems more reasonable ... Well, I guess I'll have to try by myself and see how things turn out, thank y'all for the information.

[johndms]

7 minutes ago, Austin8249 said:

I hit 3.9 on my stock cooler with a .13125 offset, 1.384V. 1,286 cb score

I hit 4.025 on my h110i with the same voltage offset, but in testing, the voltage got up to around 1.39ish

What methods of testing do you do to ensure stability?

[johndms]

I've hit 3.9 at 1.4125v and was stable for 1.5 hours of Aida64, but any lower voltage will fail after 30-45 minutes.  I can run Cinebench tests all day long, but unfortunately, it doesn't last long enough to really stress the CPU.

 

We all play the Silicon Lottery, of course.. maybe I'm just unlucky.

[Austin8249]

1 minute ago, johndms said:

What methods of testing do you do to ensure stability?

30 min aida64. I've tried some p95 testing too, but I've had this OC whenever my PC is on for a month, playing games and such.

max CPU temp was 72c with the Corsair balanced preset for the h110i

[Austin8249]

https://valid.x86.fr/ifwp5g

[MittWaffen]

.......................... hm just get a ryzen 2600x

[Binder]

If you want longevity, I wouldn't do it on the stock. That's if you're chip can even hit 4.0 to begin with...

I see too many People that are too optimistic regarding that.

I have a 1600 that needs 1.38 for a fully stable 3.85ghz (I also run llc 3). To stabilize 3.9, only 50mhz more , i need 1.4-1.42...Oh, and I run a noctua u12s that runs on 100% all the time (to keep temps as low as possible ). With this settings I have great CPU temps under full load (62-66 stressing, lower 50's when gaming) and its fully stable. Im talking long runs of realbench stress test, IBT, prime95 and games. No crashes, no throttling (people seems to miss the latter). Many people are posting half assed work when It comes to actually testing for stability , so I would really take it with a grain of salt when someone says "oh yeah, my ryzen runs stable at 4.0 on 1.375v and with the wraith spire". No, it probably doesn't...

Booting and Running cinabench 10 times is not Stability. Running prime 95 for 2 hours is not stability. Running aida 64 is generally garbage for stressing (realbench and IBT crashed in minutes oc's that ran hours on Aida). Stability is running multiple prolonged stress tests and passing them flawleslly ,  stability is doing anything it can do at stock (regarding zero errors). If you oced your CPU and it gives you a minor throttle that won't happen at stock ,even though it didn't crash on a test, its not stable, period. 

3.8 is possible for most, 3.9 for some, probably needing an aftermarket cooler for the long run for good temps, and 4.0 which is fully stable and 24/7 operable, not so many chips... I really wouldn't shoot for 4.0 with the stock, wouldn't even think about it.. maybe besides for few runs of benching and that's it (if you can hit it to begin with). And this is from "real world" first hand experience. Yeah, you have good chips that can do 3.9-4.0 with good voltages (and many that can't, like mine ), but most chances are its gonna be high, at least 1.4-1.42 (on a decent chip) to be FULLY stable, and I personally wouldn't do it with the wraith spire for too long, if at all. 

[Tjklehto]

I've been testing my Ryzen 5 1600 for about a week now with this setup: ryzen 5 1600+Coolermaster 212 evo+ga-ab350g+ddr4 16gb 3000MHz. Gotta say I'm impressed! I'm now running multiplier 40,25 with 1,344V and run 12hours of aida64 + 2 days on normal use(gaming etc.) without problems and the heat stays around 60C. With only 1,344V running this with the stock cooler might be possible.. maybe.