Intel 12-core i9-7920X features a 2.9GHz base clock.

[grimreeper132]

thread ripper is going to rip intel a new one (pun intended)

 

(yes I know I used this on the other one showing this news but meh here it is again)

[FishTea]

8 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Thread has been polished up and moved back to news section. @zeraine00 In future more original input should be done, you should also edit the OP and add some more for this one. We expect a bit more than a single line/sentence.

Thanks, was on work when i submitted post. didn't have the time to revamp things.

[grimreeper132]

2 hours ago, RKRiley said:

That $1199 price tag is much more interesting IMO. They'll probably boost up to a decent clock, I'd guess around 3.6 - 3.7ghz, will have to come back and check when it's announced  

 

Honestly expected them to charge a lot more for it, nice to see they're finally offering somewhat "decent" pricing on their higher end stuff.

even if it can boost up to 3.6-3.7 that is still slower than AMDs 16 core (which is cheaper) has a boost of 4.0GHz, and a base of 3.4GHz, I personally at the moment see no need for this 12 core, as AMDs 16 core looks like it can out perform it, yes we will need to see independent reviews until we can say that for certain, but AMDs architecture might be slower than intels, down at the 4-8 core range, but at the high core count they are offering higher clock speeds than intels, because they are willing to spend a little more in order to solder the CPU so you can cool the thing. And aren't scared to make a "big" CPU if it means you can fit everything in it and actually be able to cool it.

 

(yes for many of these points we will need to wait and see independent reviews on these in order to confirm or deny most of these but from the looks of things at the moment it looks like what I am saying might be true)

[tom_w141]

3 minutes ago, zeraine00 said:

Thanks, was on work when i submitted post. didn't have the time to revamp things.

I fought for this thread lmao so there better be some discussion here  

6 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

thread ripper is going to rip intel a new one (pun intended)

 

(yes I know I used this on the other one showing this news but meh here it is again)

I do think the same but the 12 core could recover by being an amazing overclocker. Otherwise I predict it being DOA as its clocked so low with 4 less cores whilst costing more than the 1950X that comes clocked higher at stock and includes a cooler.

[The Benjamins]

Seeing the clocks I don't think the 7920x will beat the 1920x in cinebench at stock clocks, and I feel the 1950x might beat the 7980XE

 

@grimreeper132

[tom_w141]

1 minute ago, grimreeper132 said:

boost of 4.0GHz

Single core boost*

[grimreeper132]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

I fought for this thread lmao so there better be some discussion here  

I do think the same but the 12 core could recover by being an amazing overclocker. Otherwise I predict it being DOA as its clocked so low with 4 less cores whilst costing more than the 1950X that comes clocked higher at stock and includes a cooler.

it might be but only after delidding as if intel keeps it's current trend it won't be soldered and a bitch to cool

[grimreeper132]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

Single core boost*

that is true, yes, but intel can only do 2, which is better yes, but not massively as it will iif the guess of 3.5-3.6 for the boost be 0.2GHz over AMDs base clock which is better in some cases, but those cases you'd be better off with a 7700K overclocked, for the workloads these CPUs should be doing the 16 cores at 3.4GHz will be much faster 

[tom_w141]

4 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

Seeing the clocks I don't think the 7920x will beat the 1920x in cinebench at stock clocks, and I feel the 1950x might beat the 7980XE

If none are soldered I agree. However it could be a great overclocker if the likes of @done12many2 delid and scrape out the stock bubble gum. For the advanced tinkerer this product might be salvageable and turn out to be a beast. Though delidding a $1200 CPU is pretty scary stuff  

[Sauron]

2 hours ago, VerticalDiscussions said:

Lol.

 

So the 18 core variant will be at 2.2Ghz xD?

Yes, exactly like its xeon counterpart

[Coaxialgamer]

Hot, power hungry and expensive . Exactly what we needed.

 

[grimreeper132]

3 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

Seeing the clocks I don't think the 7920x will beat the 1920x in cinebench at stock clocks, and I feel the 1950x might beat the 7980XE

 

@grimreeper132

7980XE getting bet, quite possibly, I mean you might be right as if the current trend of clock speed degradation the 18 core could be about 2.5-2.8 GHz (got to be above 2.2GHz as intel has a 22 core at that speed, so 2.5- 2.8 I would say)

[mynameisjuan]

Still waiting on actual benchmarks for both side before conclusions are made.

[Coaxialgamer]

7 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

 

I do think the same but the 12 core could recover by being an amazing overclocker. Otherwise I predict it being DOA as its clocked so low with 4 less cores whilst costing more than the 1950X that comes clocked higher at stock and includes a cooler.

Don't count on it . The 7900x is already hard to cool and very power hungry . This will be even worse .

There's an upper limit to how much power can go through the socket , too.

[grimreeper132]

1 minute ago, Sauron said:

Yes, exactly like its xeon counterpart

yes so it will be exactly the same as the xeon it most definitely won't be the exact same die of given a new name and socket and features removed nope intel  won't do that

[tom_w141]

Just now, grimreeper132 said:

7980XE getting bet, quite possibly, I mean you might be right as if the current trend of clock speed degradation the 18 core could be about 2.5-2.8 GHz (got to be above 2.2GHz as intel has a 22 core at that speed, so 2.5- 2.8 I would say)

Honestly I don't see the 7980XE not being soldered. It really has to be.

[grimreeper132]

Just now, mynameisjuan said:

Still waiting on actual benchmarks for both side before conclusions are made.

from independant reviews they haven't came out yet, AMD they have shown a couple of their own

[tom_w141]

Just now, Coaxialgamer said:

Don't count on it . The 7900x is already hard to cool and very power hungry . This will be even worse .

 

I meant when delidded* Sorry I do say so in a more recent post

[grimreeper132]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

Honestly I don't see the 7980XE not being soldered. It really has to be.

you say that, but it's not according to this article

 

http://wccftech.com/intels-core-x-series-skylake-x-and-kabylake-x-will-not-be-using-soldered-integrated-heat-spreader-ihs/t

[FishTea]

Just now, grimreeper132 said:

you say that, but it's not according to this article

 

http://wccftech.com/intels-core-x-series-skylake-x-and-kabylake-x-will-not-be-using-soldered-integrated-heat-spreader-ihs/t

wccf.. hmmmm take that statement with a tanker of salt. wccf is known to be THE source of BS

[FishTea]

9 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

I fought for this thread lmao so there better be some discussion here  

I do think the same but the 12 core could recover by being an amazing overclocker. Otherwise I predict it being DOA as its clocked so low with 4 less cores whilst costing more than the 1950X that comes clocked higher at stock and includes a cooler.

Thankies!

[TidaLWaveZ]

13 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

Still waiting on actual benchmarks for both side before conclusions are made.

Really? Why not just follow suit and trash talk it based solely on rumored bclock and nothing else?

[grimreeper132]

Just now, zeraine00 said:

wccf.. hmmmm take that statement with a tanker of salt. wccf is known to be THE source of BS

https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel/intel-core-i9-7900X-overclocked

http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-skylake-x-kaby-lake-x-cpu-lids-will-not-soldered-still-using-tim_195088https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/6e3925/pcgh_skylakex_is_not_soldered/https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/786481-intel-x299-cpus-not-soldered/?page=4

http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/2936-intel-i9-7900x-delidding-cpu-package-thermal-paste

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/intel_s_skylake-x_and_kaby_lake-x_cpus_will_not_be_soldered/1

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/skylake-x-lineup-leaked-i9-7980xe-18-core-flagship-processor.18779544/page-11

https://www.techpowerup.com/233865/intels-skylake-x-kaby-lake-x-hedt-cpus-to-use-tim-wont-be-soldered

 

sorry I better find a few more sources to show that the WCCF might be true

 

 

[tom_w141]

1 minute ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

Really? Why not just follow suit and trash talk it based solely on rumored bclock and nothing else?

That will be the base clock. Its on their spec/price data. Also no one here is really trashing it really. Base clock doesn't tell you loads but its still news. Its saving grace may be it boosts like a boss and ofc AVX workloads.

[TheUzu]

You'd think they'd add good TIM while they're delidding the xeons to add the i9 heat spreader.