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What Happened To Laser Mice?

1 hour ago, NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle said:

So optical did indeed surpasses the laser ones?

 

First things first, both are optical, and image correlation sensors, the difference is just simply the illumination source, the PTE is an exception to that though as it uses two VCSEL's(one for x, one for y) and the "doppler shift" to determine travelled distance.

 

1 hour ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

AFAIK laser sensors have a lot of acceleration, this is why optical sensors are usually better. Laser sensors usually have higher DPI, but they aren't as precise. It comes down to personal preference TBH

 

I just quote myself:

 

On 9.7.2017 at 11:05 AM, woll3 said:

It might seem kinda pedantic but it bugs me, it doesnt have "acceleration built in" its CPI are fluctuating and in most cases leaning overall more towards an increase with speed, it simply is dubbed as resolution accuracy(or error if you go "from the other side"), which obv. isnt perfect on any product(which includes LED illuminated sensors[optical]), just to varying degrees. It also is only partially caused by the laser illumination, its just simply harder to achieve a good resolution accuracy with it while keeping the pricepoint in check.

 

Which would be the case with the A9500, A9800 and all of its offsprings, A6010 and A6090 on the other hand have lower resolution errors, though they have other problems.

 

Edit: Oh, and ofc the surface also plays a part in that regard.

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So I haven't bought a mouse in years, over 5 years I've been using the same mouse that I bought. It's some Gigabyte extreme laser mouse.

It's really worn out and I want to replace it, but to my surprise I can't find laser mice anymore. I mean I can, but they're very rare.

What happened? Years ago laser mice were the best, the most accurate, the highest dpi, dpi changing on the fly, etc.

Now I can only find optical mice which back in the day where decent at best, most were barely any better than the ball mice.

 

Did the optical technology caught up to the laser one and even surpassed it or lasers are just to expensive so everyone just went back to optical because it's cheaper to produce?

 

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Lets just say... some desktops weren't happy with all dat lazerz burning the surfaces... overclockingz teh Lazerz Mouze lolz =) 

 

And to be honest, I think the new optical sensors have just gotten so much better, that there is not a real difference anymore but the price... 

 

 


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Optical is the best option for a sensor now as far as I know. Laser has died off 


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#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

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44 minutes ago, NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle said:

So optical did indeed surpasses the laser ones?

As far as I know, yes. 


I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally)...

Builds:

The Toaster Project! Northern Bee!

 

The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

Spoiler

"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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49 minutes ago, NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle said:

So optical did indeed surpasses the laser ones?

AFAIK laser sensors have a lot of acceleration, this is why optical sensors are usually better. Laser sensors usually have higher DPI, but they aren't as precise. It comes down to personal preference TBH


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1 hour ago, NvidiaIntelAMDLoveTriangle said:

So optical did indeed surpasses the laser ones?

 

First things first, both are optical, and image correlation sensors, the difference is just simply the illumination source, the PTE is an exception to that though as it uses two VCSEL's(one for x, one for y) and the "doppler shift" to determine travelled distance.

 

1 hour ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

AFAIK laser sensors have a lot of acceleration, this is why optical sensors are usually better. Laser sensors usually have higher DPI, but they aren't as precise. It comes down to personal preference TBH

 

I just quote myself:

 

On 9.7.2017 at 11:05 AM, woll3 said:

It might seem kinda pedantic but it bugs me, it doesnt have "acceleration built in" its CPI are fluctuating and in most cases leaning overall more towards an increase with speed, it simply is dubbed as resolution accuracy(or error if you go "from the other side"), which obv. isnt perfect on any product(which includes LED illuminated sensors[optical]), just to varying degrees. It also is only partially caused by the laser illumination, its just simply harder to achieve a good resolution accuracy with it while keeping the pricepoint in check.

 

Which would be the case with the A9500, A9800 and all of its offsprings, A6010 and A6090 on the other hand have lower resolution errors, though they have other problems.

 

Edit: Oh, and ofc the surface also plays a part in that regard.

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