Posted July 11, 2017 Source: https://seekingalpha.com/article/4086817-steam-paints-different-picture-intel-amd-nvidia Source: http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/ Even though this article isn't written by the most tech savvy person, I still found it interesting to read through. I am hesitant to believe Intel regained some of the user space (CPU wise) with recent events. I am not surprised that nVidia is reclaiming user share (since new AMD cards are hard to get right now at a reasonable price). It wasn't included in the original article, but I included Steam's "Most Popular Hardware" list as well. I think its cool to see what is most common between all of the different builds. Quote Although Steam addresses only a segment of PC users, it's a very important battleground currently for Intel (NASDAQ:INTC), Advanced Micro Devices (NASDAQ:AMD), and Nvidia (NASDAQ:NVDA). PC gaming is the one segment of the PC desktop market that appears to be growing, and it tends to emphasize high-end desktop use. Quote AMD's current Ryzen processors, as well as its forthcoming Threadripper, clearly target the gaming/enthusiast market. Likewise, Intel's latest Skylake-X processors appear to be the company's attempt to counter Ryzen by providing even more performance, albeit at the cost of high power consumption. Quote Nvidia and AMD compete in desktop graphics cards oriented towards gamers. Although Nvidia has branched out into machine learning and autonomous vehicles, gaming GPUs are still its most important source of revenue. In the company's most recent fiscal quarter, gaming was 53% of its $1.937 billion in revenue. Nvidia is currently considered dominant in high-end desktop GPUs, but that may change with the arrival of AMD's Vega architecture, which is thought to be equivalent to Nvidia's current high-end Pascal architecture GPUs. As for AMD Vega, I will believe it when I see it IRL. Quote So, Steam has its finger on the pulse of a key market for all three companies, and therefore, its monthly survey of the computer hardware and software that its customers use is probably a good indicator of the state of the PC gaming market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 11, 2017 Take the survey with a pinch of salt its opt in and steam has never asked me to. So my results and likely many others are not included. My Ryzen P State Overclocking Guide | Cookie Cutter Mid-Range Gaming Build (2017) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 11, 2017 I've seen those scores a few days ago, they're very weird because it's simply impossible for Intel to gain marketshare for the past few months since Ryzen became so popular, even looking here at our forum, there's so many new Ryzen builders... LTT also had a video on how often people buy Ryzen compared to Intel recently and Ryzen goes up & up in sales. Take that info with a huge grain of salt. CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB GDDR6 Motherboard: MSI PRESTIGE X570 CREATION AIO: Corsair H150i Pro RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 32GB 3600MHz DDR4 Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic PSU: Corsair RM850x White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 11, 2017 Author Just now, tom_w141 said: Take the survey with a pinch of salt its opt in and steam has never asked me to. So my results and likely many others are not included. I agree. The article states how many people use steam, but it didn't mention how many actually took the survey. I also just attached the photos to go with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said: I've seen those scores a few days ago, they're very weird because it's simply impossible for Intel to gain marketshare for the past few months since Ryzen became so popular, even looking here at our forum, there's so many new Ryzen builders... that's not how it works AMD has already a small market share CPU wise and for AMD to surpass Intel in overall market share they would've needed not only to sell shit ton more than they usually do, they would've needed to sell more than Intel sold for years - and that is just not possible since Ryzen launched, 3-4 months was it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 11, 2017 Don't forget all those RX 480-580-570 cards that are sold to miners won't appear in the steam survey, but they are all gone. I think things will only change when ryzen and the APU versions appear in pc's and laptops you can buy in your local electronics store. If you want my attention, quote meh! D: or just stick an @samcool55 in your post :3 Spying on everyone to fight against terrorism is like shooting a mosquito with a cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said: I've seen those scores a few days ago, they're very weird because it's simply impossible for Intel to gain marketshare for the past few months since Ryzen became so popular, even looking here at our forum, there's so many new Ryzen builders... We don't have the detail, but it isn't impossible for some scenarios where Intel fight back. For example, high end PC VR is often stated as having strong initial sales, but once everyone who's going to get one has got it, sales fall off a cliff. Not saying that's happening with Ryzen, but it is a possibility that after an initial rush when it was the new thing, sales have dropped once again and ongoing sales slowed down. If you can say not to take the Steam Survey results too seriously, you can't rely on LTT forum posts as any indicator either. 5 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said: Take that info with a huge grain of salt. If you don't mind, I like my salt grains small, but I do literally have a bucket of it. Main system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, Corsair Vengeance Pro 3200 3x 16GB 2R, RTX 3070, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, Acer Predator XB241YU 24" 1440p 144Hz G-Sync + HP LP2475w 24" 1200p 60Hz wide gamut Gaming laptop: Lenovo Legion 5, 5800H, RTX 3070, Kingston DDR4 3200C22 2x16GB 2Rx8, Kingston Fury Renegade 1TB + Crucial P1 1TB SSD, 165 Hz IPS 1080p G-Sync Compatible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 11, 2017 Author 1 minute ago, samcool55 said: Don't forget all those RX 480-580-570 cards that are sold to miners won't appear in the steam survey, but they are all gone. I think things will only change when ryzen and the APU versions appear in pc's and laptops you can buy in your local electronics store. Just wait, ebay and craigslist will be full of those RX cards when this mining phase comes to a close. MANY near death cards. (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 11, 2017 Just now, Scotter97 said: Just wait, ebay and craigslist will be full of those RX cards when this mining phase comes to a close. MANY near death cards. (lol) Probably, but when? It might be months or even years until that happens and until then those cards won't appear in the steam survey. And even if it does happen and they do start to appear on ebay and whatever we probably won't see a correct marketshare from steam, they probably changed gpu's then... If you want my attention, quote meh! D: or just stick an @samcool55 in your post :3 Spying on everyone to fight against terrorism is like shooting a mosquito with a cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, tom_w141 said: Take the survey with a pinch of salt its opt in and steam has never asked me to. So my results and likely many others are not included. Surveys with limited information are pointless. Although 19% AMD seems close to me, only 16.7% of my computers have an AMD processor. I was asked to take the survey while I was on my laptop, which is by no means representative of all of my systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, zMeul said: that's not how it works AMD has already a small market share CPU wise and for AMD to surpass Intel in overall market share they would've needed not only to sell shit ton more than they usually do, they would've needed to sell more than Intel sold for years - and that is just not possible since Ryzen launched, 3-4 months was it I didn't mean that AMD will have a higher marketshare, I meant that Intel shouldn't really gain any once Ryzen launched considering AMDs previous CPU sales pre-Ryzen era... CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB GDDR6 Motherboard: MSI PRESTIGE X570 CREATION AIO: Corsair H150i Pro RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 32GB 3600MHz DDR4 Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic PSU: Corsair RM850x White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, zMeul said: that's not how it works AMD has already a small market share CPU wise and for AMD to surpass Intel in overall market share they would've needed not only to sell shit ton more than they usually do, they would've needed to sell more than Intel sold for years - and that is just not possible since Ryzen launched, 3-4 months was it And in order for Intel to gain market share, they would need to sell more than they usually do/have been selling so...technically you're not quite right I mean if intel sold 3 CPUs for every single AMD CPU sold (as an example), the market share will always be 75/25%. Even after an infinite amount of years and CPUs sold, the market share will always be 75/25%. Looking at my signature are we now? Well too bad there's nothing here... What? As I said, there seriously is nothing here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Morgan MLGman said: I didn't mean that AMD will have a higher marketshare, I meant that Intel shouldn't really gain any once Ryzen launched considering AMDs previous CPU sales pre-Ryzen era... People upgrading from old AMD system to Ryzen, the old system is discarded. No net gain in market share. People upgrading from Intel sidegrade and sell their old system, and the old system is still in use by someone else. Meanwhile Intel continues to sell new processors while businesses flood the second hand market with used Intel prebuilts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 11, 2017 22 minutes ago, tom_w141 said: Take the survey with a pinch of salt its opt in and steam has never asked me to. So my results and likely many others are not included. Plus it quite easy to mass fake hardware ids with VM i presume. Magical Pineapples