need help planning a build

[twoxdynamic]

Okay, I need help choosing components for a new pc because I'm currently using a laptop to build my youtube channel and it's been presenting problems left and right.

my laptop is an ASUS gaming notebook

GeForce GTX 960M 2 GB GDDR5

• Intel Core i7 6th Gen 6700HQ (2.60 GHz)
• 16 GB Memory 1 TB HDD
• 17.3" Full HD 1920 x 1080
• 16.30" x 10.60" x 1.20"-1.30" 6.60 lbs.
• DVD±R/RW
• 1 x Mini DisplayPort 1 x HDMI
• 1 x USB 3.1 Typ-C (Gen 1)
• 1 x USB 3.0
• 2 x USB 2.0

It's a relatively good laptop but compared to the rigs I've seen it fails in comparison, even most subpar pc builds I've seen work better which I hate because I spent $2000 on the laptop.

so im having trouble looking for what I want for my new pc, specifically with choosing between AMD and Intel and other such products. I'm new to PC's so I don't know the differences, my current budget is $1,200 CAD. any advice or ideas would be great appreciated.

(Before people ask, my name "tree killer" is a term from my friend due to my career as a utility arborist and forest firefighter).

[Herman Mcpootis]

need os/monitor/peripherals?

[Billy_Mays]

We won't ask much about names and how long can you wait to build a PC?

[twoxdynamic]

no I do not, I pre purchased all of those a few weeks ago.

LG 25UM58-P 25" 21:9 UltraWide IPS Monitor with Screen Split, Black

I have windows 10 pro 64-bit ready to be installed when I get the pc built and have already bought a keyboard and mouse and speakers.

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($294.50 @ Vuugo) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($95.00 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.95 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card  ($369.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case: Apevia - X-QTIS-BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($54.98 @ DirectCanada) change this to another 500-550w unit if you choose to get a used 390.
Total: $1184.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-07 09:33 EDT-0400

[twoxdynamic]

I get my paychecks monthly so by august 15th my budget could be between $1900 and $2100.

[Zando_]

Just now, treekiller said:

no I do not, I pre purchased all of those a few weeks ago.

LG 25UM58-P 25" 21:9 UltraWide IPS Monitor with Screen Split, Black

I have windows 10 pro 64-bit ready to be installed when I get the pc built and have already bought a keyboard and mouse and speakers.

Noice! And make sure to tag or quote people so they can see your reply: @herman mcpootis

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($294.50 @ Vuugo) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($95.00 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.95 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card  ($369.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case: Apevia - X-QTIS-BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($54.98 @ DirectCanada) 
Total: $1184.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-07 09:33 EDT-0400

Great build, though I'd get a 1050 Ti since 1060s are inflated now, spend the extra on a bigger SSD or R7 1700 (it'll help more with editing), and then save for a 1080 or 1080 Ti down the line

[twoxdynamic]

@herman mcpootis how well would that build handle streaming through twitch/youtube while running high/very high graphics?

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, treekiller said:

@herman mcpootis how well would that build handle streaming through twitch/youtube while running high/very high graphics?

If you wanted that, you'd need something like... *scrambles to throw build together*

[Guest]

If you don't mind waiting, you could also wait for that paycheck and up the GPU to a 1070/1080.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($381.87 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($112.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($62.50 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card  ($187.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $1195.31 CAD
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-07 09:46 EDT-0400

[twoxdynamic]

@herman mcpootis @LeinadTM I'll look into both builds, I'm going to look into the difference between AMD and intel because I have yet to learn the difference. Thanks for the suggestions.

[Herman Mcpootis]

14 minutes ago, treekiller said:

@herman mcpootis how well would that build handle streaming through twitch/youtube while running high/very high graphics?

it should stream just fine, i'd recommend finding a used gtx 970/r9 390 and using the money to go get a 1700 as GPU prices are crazy high now.

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, treekiller said:

@herman mcpootis @LeinadTM I'll look into both builds, I'm going to look into the difference between AMD and intel because I have yet to learn the difference. Thanks for the suggestions.

AMD's Ryzen lineup seems to be aimed more at workstations, giving much higher core counts than Intel's flagship CPUs, and for a cheaper price. For example, the R7 1700 is almost $100 cheaper than the i7-7700K, and has twice the cores and threads. Basically, Intel CPUs are slightly better for gaming due to having naturally higher frequencies, but AMD CPUs are a lot better for value. Plus, slapping a good cooler on a Ryzen CPU will allow you to overclock to the point where it's better than a stock Intel CPU.

[Herman Mcpootis]

4 minutes ago, treekiller said:

@herman mcpootis @LeinadTM I'll look into both builds, I'm going to look into the difference between AMD and intel because I have yet to learn the difference. Thanks for the suggestions.

ryzen has lower average framerates than the current lga 1151 cpus, but higher minimum framerates which makes the game feel smoother and much better multitasking ability with the extra cores.

[DocSwag]

19 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Great build, though I'd get a 1050 Ti since 1060s are inflated now, spend the extra on a bigger SSD or R7 1700 (it'll help more with editing), and then save for a 1080 or 1080 Ti down the line

The 1060 Herman chose is priced ok, it translates to around $285 USD which is reasonable.

9 minutes ago, LeinadTM said:

If you don't mind waiting, you could also wait for that paycheck and up the GPU to a 1070/1080.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($381.87 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($112.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($62.50 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card  ($187.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $1195.31 CAD
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-07 09:46 EDT-0400

Considering the price range op is looking at it's probably better to get a 1600 and use that money on a better GPU. Also SSD plus isn't great.

4 minutes ago, LeinadTM said:

AMD's Ryzen lineup seems to be aimed more at workstations, giving much higher core counts than Intel's flagship CPUs, and for a cheaper price. For example, the R7 1700 is almost $100 cheaper than the i7-7700K, and has twice the cores and threads. Basically, Intel CPUs are slightly better for gaming, but AMD CPUs are a lot better for value.

Ehhhh I wouldn't say SLIGHTLY, for 7700k vs r7 you're looking at 10-15% or so. That's the difference for 570 vs 580 and people don't say the 580 is slightly better. 

 

Also $100 less for 1700 isn't accurate, even in Canada the difference is $60 or so and here in the us at the moment they're pretty much the same.

 

Also, I hate it when people say amd cpus are better value. Value is heavily dependent on scenario. If you look at someone who's only gaming, then the 7700k is better value than the 1700.

[brob]

Another R7 1700 build - more storage, mATX case, slightly faster memory.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($379.82 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($111.95 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($179.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($128.99 @ PC Canada) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($89.05 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card  ($187.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: Cooler Master - N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($54.75 @ Vuugo) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Monitor: LG - 25UM58-P 25.0" 2560x1080 75Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $1192.53
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-07 10:13 EDT-0400

[twoxdynamic]

I've decided to wait about a month and a half, I found out through my boss that I'm getting a bonus and a raise at work so by the end of august my new budget should be around $4500.

[brob]

3 hours ago, treekiller said:

I've decided to wait about a month and a half, I found out through my boss that I'm getting a bonus and a raise at work so by the end of august my new budget should be around $4500.

Sweet.

[twoxdynamic]

@brob needless to say I'm not going to spend $4,500 on a pc, that's pretty overkill. probably going to be between $2,000 and $2,500

[brob]

1 minute ago, treekiller said:

@brob needless to say I'm not going to spend $4,500 on a pc, that's pretty overkill. probably going to be between $2,000 and $2,500

That will let you go with more ssd storage and a more powerful gpu.