New Ryzen Build Slow POST Issue

[NateNate]

Hi! Recently I have built a new Ryzen Rig. Here are the specs:(nothing was overclocked*)

 

CPU: Ryzen 5 1500x 

Cooler: Stock 

Motherboard: MSI B350m Bazooka

GPU: Galax 1060 6gb EXOC White 

RAM: Kingston HyperX 8gb 2400 ddr4 (single stick)

HDD: WD Blue Caviar 1TB

PSU: Seasonic 520 Watts Bronze 80+ Fully Modular

Case: Tecware Edge TG

 

On the first week of use, I experienced no issues. All temps are good and the bootup is as fast as you would expect an OS in HDD would be. BUT 2 days ago, I have noticed that suddenly my PC takes about 45 seconds to 1 minute to get into the login screen. I realized it was not the bootup process, it was the "POST" who is actually taking too long. The bootup only takes 10-15 seconds.

 

I checked my motherboard's ez debug LEDs and noticed that the cpu and dram would light up respectively fine for a few seconds then on the vga led, it would take a very long flash of light. 

 

I saw several post about this issue and they said that they updated their BIOS. But I was wondering if it is the BIOS why would this happen to my system after a week of no problems with it. I mean if it is outdated then why have I used it perfectly on the first week. And I have checked the latest BIOS and it was released a month ago. 

 

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you! 

[You_are_a_cunt]

It's a known issue on Ryzen.

Have you updated the BIOS? If you haven't, you should.

 

POST is pretty long for me too, on a B350 Tomahawk. Takes a good 10-15s (never actually timed it) to get to the login screen (OS is on an SSD) and it sometimes (although rarely) actually fails to boot, going through a couple cycles (my OCs stay active though). I could probably time it when I get home, but I think it's in that 15s ballpark

[Spectrez]

if updating the bios does nothing for you - try resetting cmos, it could be the RAM training acting up

[genexis_x]

58 minutes ago, Nate68 said:

I have noticed that suddenly my PC takes about 45 seconds to 1 minute to get into the login screen. I realized it was not the bootup process, it was the "POST" who is actually taking too long. The bootup only takes 10-15 seconds.

Quite common in most MSI AM4 mobos

[NateNate]

16 hours ago, revsilverspine said:

It's a known issue on Ryzen.

Have you updated the BIOS? If you haven't, you should.

 

POST is pretty long for me too, on a B350 Tomahawk. Takes a good 10-15s (never actually timed it) to get to the login screen (OS is on an SSD) and it sometimes (although rarely) actually fails to boot, going through a couple cycles (my OCs stay active though). I could probably time it when I get home, but I think it's in that 15s ballpark

Hi! Thanks for the response. I am somehow new to building pc and I am afraid of bricking my motherboard. In case I do not update my bios and be contented with the long post, will it do any harm to my hardware? 

[You_are_a_cunt]

2 minutes ago, Nate68 said:

Hi! Thanks for the response. I am somehow new to building pc and I am afraid of bricking my motherboard. In case I do not update my bios and be contented with the long post, will it do any harm to my hardware? 

I wouldn't say harm. More like cause it to perform at less than its capacity. The BIOS updates provide stability and performance increases and could potentially resolve your POST time problem.

Updating is painless. Just download the latest bios from the motherboard's site (google the motherboard and you should easily find the link to MSI's official page), unpack it onto a USB drive, go into the bios and use the update utility built-in. select the folder where you copied the bios and wait for it to update. keyboard and mouse will be locked while updating. Make sure you don't turn off the PC.

In the motherboard's manual you should find the same info I gave you, but in more detail

[tom_w141]

1 hour ago, revsilverspine said:

It's a known issue on Ryzen MSI AM4 motherboards

I see these posts every day yet there are people swearing its not true. @PCGuy_5960 quoted me in one yesterday.

 

Example: Crosshair BIOS 1403 I can go from cold to typing password in ~15 seconds.

 

This is why the MSI boards are cheapest in all categories for Ryzen. Plus they are known to use lower quality components in general.

 

[NateNate]

15 hours ago, revsilverspine said:

I wouldn't say harm. More like cause it to perform at less than its capacity. The BIOS updates provide stability and performance increases and could potentially resolve your POST time problem.

Updating is painless. Just download the latest bios from the motherboard's site (google the motherboard and you should easily find the link to MSI's official page), unpack it onto a USB drive, go into the bios and use the update utility built-in. select the folder where you copied the bios and wait for it to update. keyboard and mouse will be locked while updating. Make sure you don't turn off the PC.

In the motherboard's manual you should find the same info I gave you, but in more detail

I have checked my bios version and it is " 1.1 "

In case I update my BIOS, what file should I download here? 
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350M-BAZOOKA.html

I cannot update right now for there is a storm and I cannot assure that the electricity won't go out. I am sorry for my stupid questions it is just I saved money so long for this build haha.

[You_are_a_cunt]

4 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

I see these posts every day yet there are people swearing its not true. @PCGuy_5960 quoted me in one yesterday.

 

Example: Crosshair BIOS 1403 I can go from cold to typing password in ~15 seconds.

 

Huh. Seen the same happen on a Gigabyte motherboard and it got fixed after a BIOS update.

3 minutes ago, Nate68 said:

I have checked my bios version and it is " 1.1 "

In case I update my BIOS, what file should I download here? 
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350M-BAZOOKA.html

I cannot update right now for there is a storm and I cannot assure that the electricity won't go out. I am sorry for my stupid questions it is just I saved money so long for this build haha.

Under bios, 7A38v15 is the latest update.

 

Also, AGESA 1006 is out wheeeeee!

l.e.: shit. my tomahawk didn't get the 1.6 update with AGESA 1006 yet >.<

[NateNate]

15 hours ago, revsilverspine said:

Huh. Seen the same happen on a Gigabyte motherboard and it got fixed after a BIOS update.

Under bios, 7A38v15 is the latest update.

 

Also, AGESA 1006 is out wheeeeee!

l.e.: shit. my tomahawk didn't get the 1.6 update with AGESA 1006 yet >.<

Thank you for your great responses. I will update you if I have updated my bios and solved this issue already. 

[tom_w141]

12 minutes ago, revsilverspine said:

shit. my tomahawk didn't get the 1.6 update with AGESA 1006 yet

God bless beta BIOS I've had it for 2 months  

[You_are_a_cunt]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

God bless beta BIOS I've had it for 2 months  

on a Tomahawk? Gief.

Is it stable enough? Any OC improvement in the CPU department? (3.75 at 1.35 bothers me deeply)

[tom_w141]

9 minutes ago, revsilverspine said:

on a Tomahawk? Gief

Sorry I meant the beta for my Crosshair VI. Being their flagship board it only takes days for any microcode update to be out in a beta BIOS. One of the main perks for a more expensive board tbh  I also had 1004a very early and same with 1006

[You_are_a_cunt]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

Sorry I meant the beta for my Crosshair VI. Being their flagship board it only takes days for any microcode update to be out in a beta BIOS. One of the main perks for a more expensive board tbh  I also had 1004a very early and same with 1006

bah.

MSI X370 boards got 1006 today (or yesterday)

[tom_w141]

Just now, revsilverspine said:

MSI X370 boards got 1006 today (or yesterday)

See that's what I mean, comparatively slow when you consider I had it in May. Hopefully will filter down to you eventually  

[You_are_a_cunt]

2 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

See that's what I mean, comparatively slow when you consider I had it in May. Hopefully will filter down to you eventually  

Like I said, the B350M Bazooka has had it for at least a week and a half. It's just a matter of time.

I'll take an extra month of waiting over instant gratification as long as it's not a dud.

[NateNate]

15 hours ago, revsilverspine said:

Huh. Seen the same happen on a Gigabyte motherboard and it got fixed after a BIOS update.

Under bios, 7A38v15 is the latest update.

 

Also, AGESA 1006 is out wheeeeee!

l.e.: shit. my tomahawk didn't get the 1.6 update with AGESA 1006 yet >.<

Btw, how long does this whole updating of bios take? 5-10 minutes?

[tom_w141]

Just now, Nate68 said:

Btw, how long does this whole updating of bios take? 5-10 minutes?

Yes roughly.

[You_are_a_cunt]

2 minutes ago, Nate68 said:

Btw, how long does this whole updating of bios take? 5-10 minutes?

shouldn't take too long. 5 minutes sounds about right but it'll feel like 5 hours. Just don't touch the computer after you start updating

[NateNate]

UPDATE!!! I have updated my BIOS already to the latest version and yeah it improved the POST time. From 1 minute boot-up to 25 seconds. Thank you guys for your fast responses. Have a good day!