$300 CPU must be intel and needs 6 and 8 core upgrade path

[VivashTech]

I have a budget of $300 dollars for a processor. At the moment i cant get my hands on a 5820k or a 6800k for that price and i need a processor now. The two CPU's i have been looking at are the i7 7700k and the Intel Xeon E5-2620 v3 Haswell. I need it to overclock well as im doing a custom liquid loop and i need it to be intel so i can hackintosh. 6 cores is preferable but i need the best upgrade path as im going to upgrade in the next few years. I am leaning towards the xeon as it has 6 cores and means that i have the 5960x and the 6950x which will be more power than i need over the next 5 years that i intend to stay on the same socket type. Socket 2066 motherboards are too expensive and too hard to get my hands on. Any and all suggestions would be much appreciated. Lastly i have always been looking to get into the extreme edition platform.

[Electronics Wizardy]

Id just get a x99 board and a cheap xeon for it, then getr a 6900k later.

[BluJay614]

Hackintosh (from what I'm aware) is actually something that isn't discussed here.

[Damascus]

Get the Xeon and upgrade to Intel extreme cpus later.

[Damascus]

1 minute ago, BluJay614 said:

Hackintosh (from what I'm aware) is actually something that isn't discussed here.

This thread isn't about hackintosh, just the processor.  OP probably only brings it up so we don't scream ryzen at them.

[VivashTech]

yeah but the only think is that im seeing under water the average overclock for that xeon is like 3GHz. Is the single and multi core scores of the xeon up to par with the 7700k and newer processors?

[VivashTech]

1 minute ago, Damascus said:

This thread isn't about hackintosh, just the processor.  OP probably only brings it up so we don't scream ryzen at them.

yeah sorry bout that but had to justify why i didnt want to go AMD

[stealth80]

5 minutes ago, VivashTech said:

yeah but the only think is that im seeing under water the average overclock for that xeon is like 3GHz. Is the single and multi core scores of the xeon up to par with the 7700k and newer processors?

But 7700k uses a completely different socket.

 

Options are

 

Z270 + 7700k and no upgrade path

6800k/5820 + X99 and upgrade to 6900k later

7740K and X299 board and blow the rails off in a few years all the way to 16 cores

[SquintyG33Rs]

16 minutes ago, VivashTech said:

I have a budget of $300 dollars for a processor. At the moment i cant get my hands on a 5820k or a 6800k for that price and i need a processor now. The two CPU's i have been looking at are the i7 7700k and the Intel Xeon E5-2620 v3 Haswell. I need it to overclock well as im doing a custom liquid loop and i need it to be intel so i can hackintosh. 6 cores is preferable but i need the best upgrade path as im going to upgrade in the next few years. I am leaning towards the xeon as it has 6 cores and means that i have the 5960x and the 6950x which will be more power than i need over the next 5 years that i intend to stay on the same socket type. Socket 2066 motherboards are too expensive and too hard to get my hands on. Any and all suggestions would be much appreciated. Lastly i have always been looking to get into the extreme edition platform.

you're practically asking for something that doesn't exist. the only way you can get this is by buying used and we can know the prices you'll find that way. intel made a socket that has a sub 300$ CPU and an upgrade path to a 6+ core for the first time with x299 and that's not an option for you. 7700k doesn't have an upgrade path. so the only option left for you is x99 and i don't know what cheap CPUs are on that socket if any at all... i think i remember they all start at 600

[Electronics Wizardy]

5 minutes ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

you're practically asking for something that doesn't exist. the only way you can get this is by buying used and we can know the prices you'll find that way. intel made a socket that has a sub 300$ CPU and an upgrade path to a 6+ core for the first time with x299 and that's not an option for you. 7700k doesn't have an upgrade path. so the only option left for you is x99 and i don't know what cheap CPUs are on that socket if any at all... i think i remember they all start at 600

you can get 200 dollar chips for 2011v3 like the e5 2603 v3

[SquintyG33Rs]

3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

you can get 200 dollar chips for 2011v3 like the e5 2603 v3

holy shit it's so restrained O_O 6 core no HT at 1.6GHz Why? i mean you still get the 40 lanes so maybe it's for low processor high I/O tasks... i guess. it's not a recommendable buy for 99% of normal consumers.

 

but it's because of chips like this that i said almost...

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, SquintyG33Rs said:

holy shit it's so restrained O_O 6 core no HT at 1.6GHz Why? i mean you still get the 40 lanes so maybe it's for low processor high I/O tasks... i guess. it's not a recommendable buy for 99% of normal consumers.

also high memory tasks. With a dual socket system you can have 1.5tb of ram and 80 pcie lanes. Great for tasks that need io and ram, but not much cpu.

[VivashTech]

6 minutes ago, SquintyG33Rs said:

holy shit it's so restrained O_O 6 core no HT at 1.6GHz Why? i mean you still get the 40 lanes so maybe it's for low processor high I/O tasks... i guess. it's not a recommendable buy for 99% of normal consumers.

 

but it's because of chips like this that i said almost...

 

it runs at 2.6GHz actually and turbos to 3.2 i can overclock it under water to like 3.7 stable

[VivashTech]

Should i trust this listing for a 10 core engineering sample xeon 2630 v4 with 20 threads?

[SquintyG33Rs]

32 minutes ago, VivashTech said:

it runs at 2.6GHz actually and turbos to 3.2 i can overclock it under water to like 3.7 stable

that's what i could see on intel ark it's true it doesn't really tell the whole story.

[dukenukems]

Just get a cheap used xeon on ebay.I got my 5820k off ebay for $285.As for buying an es xeon it can also depend on which mobo you will buy since there is no guarantee that it will support an es processor.

[scottyseng]

24 minutes ago, VivashTech said:

Should i trust this listing for a 10 core engineering sample xeon 2630 v4 with 20 threads?

The Engineering samples, you run a risk. They probably work, but may have a few quirks or bugs with them. They usually aren't running retail stepping and some of them may have been abused to hell for validation testing (They're literally sometimes the CPUs intel abuses to find what is a good clock speed to set to). Also some motherboards will blacklist / refuse to boot ES CPUs.

 

For example, mine does not turbo anywhere near where it's supposed to. Max I've seen mine do is 2.6 GHz. I have a Xeon E5-2695V3 (14 core, 28 thread, 2.2 Ghz)

[VivashTech]

This guy bought a Xeon 2630 V4 ES and he said this: https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/es-xeon-discussion.5031/page-14

[scottyseng]

12 minutes ago, VivashTech said:

This guy bought a Xeon 2630 V4 ES and he said this: https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/es-xeon-discussion.5031/page-14

Hmm, you can go for it if you want, but if you want clock speed, I'd stay away from a Xeon. You can't really get too far on BLCK overclocking (That's even if the board allows it).

[asand1]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-X58-3X-SLI-MB-in-original-box-with-accessories-/292169819565?hash=item4406ada5ad:g:yvUAAOSw~XpZWBaH

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Xeon-X5680-3-33GHz-Six-Core-w-HT-Processor-runs-on-HP-Z400-LGA-1366-/201974775527?hash=item2f06a27ee7:g:7DcAAOSwyltZWnYC

 

Not the newest, but would be a fun project for Hackintosh.

 

[dukenukems]

X99 used options for processors since you say you will overclock would be xeon e51600 v3 cpus,5820k,or the 6800k.