Vega FE benchmarked by random dude

[zMeul]

source: https://videocardz.com/70541/amd-radeon-vega-frontier-lands-in-the-hands-of-the-first-owner

 

since AMD hasn't sent review samples to anyone, the 1st "gaming" benchmark we get to see with AMD's new cards is from some random dude

 

 

and here's the FireStrike scores:

Spoiler

that's comparable to a GTX1080, but at twice the power requirements! ouch!  

[Sacriledgy]

I'm scared, I can't imagine the RX Vega Gaming card will perform better tham 1080 ti

 

But this is interesting nonetheless 

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AMD stock prices tanking in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

[tom_w141]

Just now, Captain Chaos said:

AMD stock prices tanking in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

Not really, its like you benching a Quadro. Pointless

[The Benjamins]

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HE SAID THAT HE MAY OR MAY NOT BE POWER LIMITED DUE TO 550W PSU He said the clock was bouncing around a bit

Note he was using a below spec 550W PSU and was not able to get stable clocks due to power limits.

[AlwaysFSX]

Wait for actual gaming cards to be benchmarked by reputable third parties.

[HKZeroFive]

What will be the latest excuse? Drivers? Insufficient power? Thermal throttling?

[zMeul]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

Not really, its like you benching a Quadro. Pointless

and Quadro cards can't game!?

hell .. AMD even went to the trouble of providing a "gaming" driver in the package

[zMeul]

Just now, The Benjamins said:

Note he was using a below spec 550W PSU and was not able to get stable clocks due to power limits.

the card is also cooled with air

blame the PSU all you want, that's not the issue

[Sacriledgy]

2 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

Note he was using a below spec 550W PSU and was not able to get stable clocks due to power limits.

Even with stable power it'll probably slightly better than 1080. 

 

But this is like Quadro of AMD, Quadro tend to perform worse than GeForce cards due to less gaming optimisation

[The Benjamins]

4 minutes ago, zMeul said:

the card is also cooled with air

blame the PSU all you want, that's not the issue

ya we don't know if its heat or power limited, but the fact he is using a PSU 300W less then recommended is a concern. don't act like a under powered PSU can't effect benchmark results.

 

2 minutes ago, Its Not Important said:

Even with stable power it'll probably slightly better than 1080. 

 

But this is like Quadro of AMD, Quadro tend to perform worse than GeForce cards due to less gaming optimisation

Ya just pointing out that these results could be off by a bit. and this is not a extensive review.

I would like to know how well it OCs

[Sacriledgy]

6 minutes ago, zMeul said:

the card is also cooled with air

blame the PSU all you want, that's not the issue

Insufficient power supply and unfinished driver can affect the result quite drastically. And keep in mind that this is a workstation class graphic card, its like comparing gaming performance of Quadro vs GeForce card. (Spoiler, GeForce card will win in gaming performance)

[zMeul]

5 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

ya we don't know if its heat or power limited, but the fact he is using a PSU 300W less then recommended is a concern. don't act like a under powered PSU can't effect benchmark results.

I'm not acting like, but do not think for a moment the recommendations are actually valid?!

 

nVidia reccomends a 500W PSU for a GTX1080: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1080/

the same for a GTX1070: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1070/

and guess what? I'm barely hitting 400W under full tilt (synthetic workloads) with my whole system (GTX1070 G1)

[leadeater]

Just now, The Benjamins said:

ya we don't know if its heat or power limited, but the fact he is using a PSU 300W less then recommended is a concern. don't act like a under powered PSU can't effect benchmark results.

I'd be more concerned about using drivers that have yet to be fully optimized for games and hardware reviewers who test that sort of thing. If AMD were confident that Vega FE right now both hardware and drivers were representative of what gamers would be buying they would have sent out review samples.

[Damascus]

2 minutes ago, zMeul said:

nVidia reccomends a 500W PSU for a

Dude Nvidia =/= AMD 

[The Benjamins]

Just now, zMeul said:

I'm not acting like, but do not think for a moment the recommendations are actually valid?!

 

nVidia reccomends a 500W PSU for a GTX1080: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1080/

the same for a GTX1070: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1070/

and guess what? I'm barely hitting 400W under full tilt with my whole system (GTX1070 G1)

ya but this is not a 1070. and it has a 300-375 TDP rating (which is around W used). the fact he said he is unable to get stable clock is a issue, and we have no idea why just that it could be power related. we can't take these results like this is what it can do when issues like this is brought up.

 

all I am asking is to wait for better and more extensive tests.

[Sacriledgy]

3 minutes ago, zMeul said:

I'm not acting like, but do not think for a moment the recommendations are actually valid?!

 

nVidia reccomends a 500W PSU for a GTX1080: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1080/

the same for a GTX1070: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1070/

and guess what? I'm barely hitting 400W under full tilt (synthetic workloads) with my whole system (GTX1070 G1)

But this dude is 300w UNDER the recommend capacity.... don't you think it'll change the result? 

[ZestyJalapeno]

It literally says on the pics "graphics card not recognised". And a graphics core higher than a 1080 on stupid unoptimised drivers is good news. Power consumption, well, I guess it is AMD so power consumption must be the be all end all.

[zMeul]

9 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

1. Quadro cards don't game well.

you sure?

from your very own LTT:

 

[The Benjamins]

Just now, DocSwag said:

1. Since when was that true???

2. That is a fair point.

for 1 workstation cards are a bit slower then gaming cards due to drivers. it has been like that for a long time.

[zMeul]

3 minutes ago, Its Not Important said:

But this dude is 300w UNDER the recommend capacity.... don't you think it'll change the result? 

1. recommended
2. if that system would not be capable of providing the required load, the overcurrent protection will kick in and system would've shut down
3. FireStrike puts a load only on the video card, not the whole system

[DocSwag]

2 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

for 1 workstation cards are a bit slower then gaming cards due to drivers. it has been like that for a long time.

Looking back it seems I'm incorrect, the difference is usually 1-10% for a comparable card.

 

It has to be noted the FE isn't a workstation card though, but rather a Titan equivalent. I believe it even has a gaming mode or something.

[The Benjamins]

Just now, DocSwag said:

Looking back it seems I'm incorrect, the difference is usually 1-10% for a comparable card.

 

It has to be noted the FE isn't a workstation card though, but rather a Titan equivalent. I believe it even has a gaming mode or something.

ya but it is a card for "both". and gaming drivers are not ready. but so far I think it is looking good.

[Drak3]

Vega looks fairly promissing

[TidaLWaveZ]

Not defending OP but the card is meant to be both a professional and gaming card. The only driver available has a full game mode feature.

Edited June 28, 2017 by wkdpaul
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